[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Admitting it is kind of a give away

Originally Posted by jet

He would if he could. But he can't as he isn't being himself in the house and he would get thrown out.

Originally Posted by jet

Because he said so.

He didn't actually say he was a wide beater did he?

You don't actually know what he meant when he said he wasn't being himself, it may have been because he doesn't actually like Lionel or that he'd rather not be nice to certain people, it doesn't mean he'd rather kick off & start beating all the women in the house about

[jet]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Judging people on their behaviour in the house is all well and good but a lot of people go in there and behave completely differently just to boost their careers!
Surely if someone has been a disgusting person in the real World and then goes in the house and pretends to be an angel you wouldn't be deluded enough to support that person because you've only seen them pretending to be a nice person in the BB house ?

Jim isn't a nice person at all. His entire career was based on getting laughs from racist jokes and he's also been disgusting to women through the years.

Good on you if you want to be seen to support that kind of person but i never could personally. My morals are too important to me.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by sampvt

And he is also the most popular in the public vote again.

So was Charlotte last year.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

He didn't actually say he was a wide beater did he?

You don't actually know what he meant when he said he wasn't being himself, it may have been because he doesn't actually like Lionel or that he'd rather not be nice to certain people, it doesn't mean he'd rather kick off & start beating all the women in the house about

Couldn't have put it better.

[jet]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

He didn't actually say he was a wide beater did he?

You don't actually know what he meant when he said he wasn't being himself, it may have been because he doesn't actually like Lionel or that he'd rather not be nice to certain people, it doesn't mean he'd rather kick off & start beating all the women in the house about

He's hardly going to get thrown out for not liking Lionel or not being nice to certain people, is he?

[Cherie]

The faux outrage and judging of others on this thread is hilarious

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

So was Charlotte last year.

Exactly!
There's no accounting for some people's taste.

I personally find Jim far more offensive than Charlotte though. She's pretty harmless on the whole. Jim isn't!

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by jet

He's hardly going to get thrown out for not liking Lionel or not being nice to certain people, is he?

Oh he must have meant punching all the women in the face then...

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

He didn't actually say he was a wide beater did he?

You don't actually know what he meant when he said he wasn't being himself, it may have been because he doesn't actually like Lionel or that he'd rather not be nice to certain people, it doesn't mean he'd rather kick off & start beating all the women in the house about

why not? it's not like it'd be out of character for him

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Exactly!
There's no accounting for some people's taste.

I personally find Jim far more offensive than Charlotte though. She's pretty harmless on the whole. Jim isn't!

We are here to judge the housemates dear, not other forum members, so I will thank you not to suggest I have no morals. Thanks.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

why not? it's not like it'd be out of character for him

Yes I suppose, just like if someone was once a drug addict they are always a drug addict then? Gosh...

[jet]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Oh he must have meant punching all the women in the face then...

Exactly. Or just one seeing he's old now. Or he could deeply offend homosexuals or people of different races. Or his male chauvinism could get the better of him. There are no end of possibilities with Jimbo.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

We are here to judge the housemates dear, not other forum members, so I will thank you not to suggest I have no morals. Thanks.

Literally nobody suggested you have no morals, at all.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Literally nobody suggested you have no morals, at all.

Erm read last post on page 11 dear, keep up...

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by jet

Exactly. Or just one seeing he's old now. Or he could deeply offend homosexuals or people of different races. Or his male chauvinism could get the better of him. There are no end of possibilities with Jimbo.

Yes, no doubt you are right, people cannot change can they, silly me...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

He didn't actually say he was a wide beater did he?

You don't actually know what he meant when he said he wasn't being himself, it may have been because he doesn't actually like Lionel or that he'd rather not be nice to certain people, it doesn't mean he'd rather kick off & start beating all the women in the house about

It's in his autobiography..
But I just don't like him for how he is in the house the bitching with lionel was an hilarious role reversal.
The girls get gobby and lairy and the blokes stand tutting...

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Erm read last post on page 11 dear, keep up...

What is wrong with people being such condescending dicks on here tonight? You replied to somebody who made no implications at all you have no morals. Read what you replied to.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

What is wrong with people being such condescending dicks on here tonight? You replied to somebody who made no implications at all you have no morals. Read what you replied to.

Read the whole thread before getting all excited then dear, not my fault if you jump in all guns blazing without actually reading what has been written

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Read the whole thread before getting all excited then dear, not my fault if you jump in all guns blazing without actually reading what has been written

Stop being so horrible, what's your problem?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Stop being so horrible, what's your problem?

How am I being horrible?? Calm down & have a drink...

[jet]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Yes, no doubt you are right, people cannot change can they, silly me...

It was Jim who implied he hadn't changed when he said if he was himself he'd be kicked out. We can only speculate what behaviour could lead to that rare occurrence.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

How am I being horrible?? Calm down & have a drink...

You're talking down to me like I'm simple, you are just being plain rude.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by jet

It was Jim who implied he hadn't changed when he said if he was himself he'd be kicked out. We can only speculate what behaviour could lead to that rare occurrence.

He probably meant that he is still sexist, if he were to tell the sort of jokes he tells in his stand up shows it probably wouldn't go down too well.. He obviously isn't still a violent wife beater as no doubt we would have heard about it if he was...

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You're talking down to me like I'm simple, you are just being plain rude.

And calling someone a dick isn't being rude?

I have been very polite in my replies to you...

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You're talking down to me like I'm simple, you are just being plain rude.

SH, the comment that suggest supporters of Jim had no morals stated the author could not support him as their morals were too important to them, hence FG's response.

I know a lot of people who have turned their lives around, having done some pretty nasty things, and a very common factor amongst them is guilt and a constant need to put themselves down despite their progress, as constantly insisting you're still a bad person prevents you from being complacent and stopping the considerable effort to work against the way you were previously programmed to be. "If I were myself, I'd get chucked out" is not Jim bragging, but Jim putting himself down, telling others he is flawed. Why would he do that otherwise? Not many people chirpily say to women, "Hi, I'm a wife-beater!"

He knows all the jokes he has cracked, and that he is viewed as a relic and he has placed himself in a very vulnerable situation. I never watched Hell's Kitchen, but if everyone's claims about his behaviour then are true, what must have changed to make him able to control himself now, if he couldn't do it then. One answer - Jim. And he'd probably be the first to say that it's a work in progress.