[JerseyWins]

Idk about the males this season but normally they're the ones to make the seasons. I have a good feeling about the females this year bringing a lot of the entertainment.

Not that BBUS straight white males could ever do any right... that's ridiculous. /sarcasm

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Idk about the males this season but normally they're the ones to make the seasons. I have a good feeling about the females this year bringing a lot of the entertainment.

Not that BBUS straight white males could ever do any right... that's ridiculous. /sarcasm

They make the seasons absolute ****. Ever since bb12 the seasons have been ruined by misogynistic men forming boring alliances that sail to the end and squelch the interesting drama. BB13 is a partial exception because Daniele and Kalia and Rachel were too fierce, but then again Rachel's win was more because they had already ousted Jeff and Brendon (twice ) so that wasn't a possibility

[Macie Lightfoot]

BBUS guys are almost always awful though?

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Aaryn and Caleb for the mentors please!

Why would anyone want to be subjected to that

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

BBUS guys are almost always awful though?

True. I can't even be arsed to name the examples because it would pain me to write anymore on any of the atrocities.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

Aaryn and Caleb for the mentors please!

Please stop please (are you trolling?)

Promo Nicole instead

[Black Dagger]

#TeamAustin

[Donovan.]

Shelli reminds me of my friend's hot mom. Come through milf idek if she's a mother

[JerseyWins]

There's usually like 6 straight white males in every BB season. They can't all suck and be the same type of person every year. And they don't all suck / aren't the same person.

[LukeB]

Porsche can she return?

[JerseyWins]

^ She should... A Porsche, Kalia, or Daniele return (although Daniele would be really doubtful after already returning very recently)

If it's really battle of the sexes, I'm hoping for an Enzo return for the guys' side.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

There's usually like 6 straight white males in every BB season. They can't all suck and be the same type of person every year. And they don't all suck / aren't the same person.

Grodner/Kass/etc find a way to do it. I could go down the street and find a likable entertaining straight while male who wouldn't tank a season in five minutes, but production is drawn to the same personality type over and over again. If they wanna stan abhorrent ****boys like Frank and Caleb and Jeff, that's their problem to work out, but they don't need to shove them down our throats every season.

[Mokka]

Man.. so much negativity and the season hasn't even started yet...

does any body actually like the show any more???

[swinearefine]

Not I, but I haven't jumped ship quite yet. The last good season for me was BB11. They really haven't given us much to be positive about for BB17 or I would be.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean, when the racist season isn't even one of the worst THREE seasons, the show's state is truly dire.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I mean, when the racist season isn't even one of the worst THREE seasons, the show's state is truly dire.

But why do you devote so much time to it when you seem to abhor it so drastically??? I mean, I haven't seen you post any type of enjoyment about any BB season in the last couple of years

not trying to start anything, I am really quite curious.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Grodner/Kass/etc find a way to do it. I could go down the street and find a likable entertaining straight while male who wouldn't tank a season in five minutes, but production is drawn to the same personality type over and over again. If they wanna stan abhorrent ****boys like Frank and Caleb and Jeff, that's their problem to work out, but they don't need to shove them down our throats every season.

It's funny you mention that because this post pretty much talks about how casting is deliberately trying to find carbon copies of old HGs.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s235ug

It becomes more and more apparent when they cast Steve this year in a clear attempt to have another Ian-type

Casting is just so predictably gross, every year is filled with frat douches, vapid trash from the LA area, and obnoxious tryhards, and there are so few HGs that I would actually want to know in real life. Like, you could go to literally any bar in the country and find a Cody, go to any state in the south and find a Caleb, etc. You get the point.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

But why do you devote so much time to it when you seem to abhor it so drastically??? I mean, I haven't seen you post any type of enjoyment about any BB season in the last couple of years

not trying to start anything, I am really quite curious.

I guess out of a sadistic loyalty to a show that once used to be good. It's also the BB I have the most/easiest access to since I'm American.

[Braden]

Victoria to come back as a coach/leader please

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I guess out of a sadistic loyalty to a show that once used to be good. It's also the BB I have the most/easiest access to since I'm American.

ohh... I guess I think that if I hated it as much as you... I would just turn it off.

I mean, not that tv watching is really good for any of our health"s... but all that rage and bitterness can't be good for you

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Grodner/Kass/etc find a way to do it. I could go down the street and find a likable entertaining straight while male who wouldn't tank a season in five minutes, but production is drawn to the same personality type over and over again. If they wanna stan abhorrent ****boys like Frank and Caleb and Jeff, that's their problem to work out, but they don't need to shove them down our throats every season.

I don't think so... even those 3 you mention are different kinds of people (Jeff and Frank are semi-similar, I kinda see that). Caleb is hardly like the other 2.

BB17 in particular has a whole lot of different guy personalities. Most seem kinda boring to me tbh but they're different. Same with BB16 bunch of different guys, except a lot of those guys were big personalities. The girls didn't do much of anything to help the show (and I liked quite a bit of them personally) yet the guys are blamed for a bad, boring season... And they are somehow classified in the same group of "same basic straight white males" when they were pretty different to each other. Cody, Caleb, Derrick, Zach are not alike to each other, aside from all being white males. Maybe a few characteristics here and there.

Anyway I don't wanna turn this into a BB sexes debate. Honestly, this particular season I don't have high hopes for the males but not much has been seen yet from anyone. Just truthfully it is generally hard for any of them to do any right from what I've seen in most places online. Cody from BB16 is a good example... he was a genuinely really good guy, defended people from bullying even when it was minor, had a good, positive attitude a lot of the time, sense of humor, etc. Pretty good at the game without being annoying/cocky and honestly an entertaining character regardless of what many say. It's different with the casual audience, just not online.

[Donovan.]

I mean I get thinking that Steve's an 'Ian-type' but until I see him walking through the house in his underwear farting while everyone's watching on the HoH monitor and laughing or until he tries to make the frog squad or whateva, I'm not mad at him.

We've had a few nerdy types and a fair few alpha male types and definitely a lot of bitchy girl types, but they haven't all been carbon copies of each other. And even if they all had been carbon copies of each other, we shouldn't judge these guys off of what we've been given before. A lot of the BB17 negativity so far has been based on a set of pictures/bios and 3 minute interviews, but yeah stay mad about it when we don't even know if this ends up being a great cast or not.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

It's funny you mention that because this post pretty much talks about how casting is deliberately trying to find carbon copies of old HGs.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s235ug

It becomes more and more apparent when they cast Steve this year in a clear attempt to have another Ian-type

Casting is just so predictably gross, every year is filled with frat douches, vapid trash from the LA area, and obnoxious tryhards, and there are so few HGs that I would actually want to know in real life. Like, you could go to literally any bar in the country and find a Cody, go to any state in the south and find a Caleb, etc. You get the point.

At the end of the day, I'm guessing a tall slim, black girl with a British sounding accent who comes from Africa yet looks nothing like the Nat Geo/ discovery channel/ bad news reporting coverage stereotype of what America thinks Africans should be was too much of a confusing combo

what could have been <////3 **** grodner

lol @ "maybe one asian"

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Donovan.

I mean I get thinking that Steve's an 'Ian-type' but until I see him walking through the house in his underwear farting while everyone's watching on the HoH monitor and laughing or until he tries to make the frog squad or whateva, I'm not mad at him.

We've had a few nerdy types and a fair few alpha male types and definitely a lot of bitchy girl types, but they haven't all been carbon copies of each other. And even if they all had been carbon copies of each other, we shouldn't judge these guys off of what we've been given before. A lot of the BB17 negativity so far has been based on a set of pictures/bios and 3 minute interviews, but yeah stay mad about it when we don't even know if this ends up being a great cast or not.

Agreed

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Donovan.

I mean I get thinking that Steve's an 'Ian-type' but until I see him walking through the house in his underwear farting while everyone's watching on the HoH monitor and laughing or until he tries to make the frog squad or whateva, I'm not mad at him.

We've had a few nerdy types and a fair few alpha male types and definitely a lot of bitchy girl types, but they haven't all been carbon copies of each other. And even if they all had been carbon copies of each other, we shouldn't judge these guys off of what we've been given before. A lot of the BB17 negativity so far has been based on a set of pictures/bios and 3 minute interviews, but yeah stay mad about it when we don't even know if this ends up being a great cast or not.