[arista]

[LaLaLand]

The phrase "her right to appeal" irks me. She should have lost all of her rights the day she voluntarily and willingly left tbh.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

The phrase "her right to appeal" irks me. She should have lost all of her rights the day she voluntarily and willingly left tbh.

Me too,I still think she will get back here.Her family asked her to come home several times and she said no,so why does it matter so much now?

[Cherie]

Cressida Dick was interviewed on ITV news earlier, it is not a crime currently to travel to Syria to take up arms, so all that would have happened is that she would have been met at the port, questioned and more than likely released and tons of money spent monitoring her for the rest of her life.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Cressida Dick was interviewed on ITV news earlier, it is not a crime currently to travel to Syria to take up arms, so all that would have happened is that she would have been met at the port, questioned and more than likely released and tons of money spent monitoring her for the rest of her life.

Cressida Dick will have anyone practising International law to ****ing give up.

She could be charged under the Counter Terrorism & Security Act, she could even be charged under the Treason Act if she has pledged pledged allegiance to Islamic State.

Cressida, don't give legal advice and I won't say how the police should proceed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Me too,I still think she will get back here.Her family asked her to come home several times and she said no,so why does it matter so much now?

I think so too, this probably wont stand up legally and she will get back

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

The phrase "her right to appeal" irks me. She should have lost all of her rights the day she voluntarily and willingly left tbh.

This.

She joined a terrorist group that wants to destroy this country so she should stay there.

[arista]

[ISIS bride Shamima Begum can lose
British citizenship 'because she is dual national' ]

https://news.sky.com/story/is-bride-...moved-11642230

[Vicky.]

Oh yeah definitely agree the 'justice system' needs a total overhaul, many sentences are ridiculous.

[Vicky.]

I really don't understand why she didn't even pretend to regret it. would surely have had more chance then. Seems daft to basically be all 'I want to come back but I regret nothing'

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I really don't understand why she didn't even pretend to regret it. would surely have had more chance then. Seems daft to basically be all 'I want to come back but I regret nothing'

It seems so bizarre that I'm tempted to assume that there's a threat to her safety where she is currently if she's seen to be publicly denouncing the actions of ISIS... because as you say, even if she doesn't, why wouldn't she simply pretend for now? I don't think it's entirely possible to know what she'd say once back in the UK unless she actually is. But even that is a separate debate I guess. I personally think it would be good to find out; but I'm very aware of that being an unpopular opinion and that the general consensus will be "NO WHO CARES made her bed lie in it no interest in anything she would have to say etc etc". So we'll pretend I haven't even suggested it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It seems so bizarre that I'm tempted to assume that there's a threat to her safety where she is currently if she's seen to be publicly denouncing the actions of ISIS... because as you say, even if she doesn't, why wouldn't she simply pretend for now? I don't think it's entirely possible to know what she'd say once back in the UK unless she actually is. But even that is a separate debate I guess. I personally think it would be good to find out; but I'm very aware of that being an unpopular opinion and that the general consensus will be "NO WHO CARES made her bed lie in it no interest in anything she would have to say etc etc". So we'll pretend I haven't even suggested it.

Hmm yeah thats a very good point I hadn't thought of.

Meh, having minority opinions is not that bad. If we all thought the same, there would be no reason for use to even speak!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It seems so bizarre that I'm tempted to assume that there's a threat to her safety where she is currently if she's seen to be publicly denouncing the actions of ISIS... because as you say, even if she doesn't, why wouldn't she simply pretend for now? I don't think it's entirely possible to know what she'd say once back in the UK unless she actually is. But even that is a separate debate I guess. I personally think it would be good to find out; but I'm very aware of that being an unpopular opinion and that the general consensus will be "NO WHO CARES made her bed lie in it no interest in anything she would have to say etc etc". So we'll pretend I haven't even suggested it.

Maybe Bangladesh will take her? As a dual national don't they have equal responsiblity?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Maybe Bangladesh will take her? As a dual national don't they have equal responsiblity?

Legally yes morally no because she was born, raised and radicalised in Britain. That's what makes it our responsibility, not what some official documents say. If she is indeed completely legally stripped of her British citizenship I'll still consider it Britain's failing of responsibility if she does commit a terrorist act abroad or radicalises others. I'm sure plenty of others will be happy to say "Oh well she wasn't our problem".

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Legally yes morally no because she was born, raised and radicalised in Britain. That's what makes it our responsibility, not what some official documents say. If she is indeed completely legally stripped of her British citizenship I'll still consider it Britain's failing of responsibility if she does commit a terrorist act abroad or radicalises others. I'm sure plenty of others will be happy to say "Oh well she wasn't our problem".

When someone pays a people trafficker to put them ahead of the queue in getting out of a refugee camp that is them putting their family first, no morality needed, when I want to protect my family from people like this woman, I must consider the morality of the situation? You bounce all over the place with morality TS, and for all we know she was radicalised during visits to Bangladesh

[Kazanne]

Why is she so desperate to get back now ? she hates Britain and her family are no better, sick of some people thinking she's a victim,NO, she isn't , the people her husband and friends killed were victims, why did she not try to get back when her first child died,if she is so bothered about her baby? All this media coverage is pathetic,she will get back to the country she hates and will happily take handouts from it, she said she is shocked at the decision to take away her British citizenship but not shocked at heads in bins !!! is she for real, she also said she would have taught her second son to fight for Isis,so better this baby is taken away from the family altogether,she only wants to come to Britain to get out of it what she can.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

sick of some people thinking she's a victim

Who?

[Denver]

CH5 are probably kicking themselves they axed CBB.

She would have been top of the wishlist for them

[Denver]

[reece(:]

the memes are TOO much

[AnnieK]

Apparently Bangladesh and Holland have both said she does not meet their citizenship criteria and as she cannot be made stateless, we may have to reinstate her citizenship

[Denver]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Apparently Bangladesh and Holland have both said she does not meet their citizenship criteria and as she cannot be made stateless, we may have to reinstate her citizenship

Syria ad Turkey are possibilities

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Syria ad Turkey are possibilities

She doesn't have a claim to either, as it stands, she will have to have her citizenship reinstated.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She doesn't have a claim to either, as it stands, she will have to have her citizenship reinstated.

Wasnt her child born in Turkey? cant they offer her citizenship on that grounds

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Wasnt her child born in Turkey? cant they offer her citizenship on that grounds

? She's been in a Syrian refugee camp since she was located and literally had the baby only a few days ago