[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Russia is making me so angry i want to give Putin a good talking to!

Why ? Because he won't do what the US tells him to do ?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Why ? Because he won't do what the US tells him to do ?

because he is using the Ukrainian people in his ****ed up game of power, with no regard at all for the lives he's destroying. I would have a lot to explain to him. i don't think he understands that world politics is not some silly board game, his actions have real consequences.

I can't stand seeing what he's doing to the poor people of Ukraine.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

because he is using the Ukrainian people in his ****ed up game of power, with no regard at all for the lives he's destroying. I would have a lot to explain to him. i don't think he understands that world politics is not some silly board game, his actions have real consequences.

I can't stand seeing what he's doing to the poor people of Ukraine.

Oh I see.........Ideally then what would you like to happen ? perhaps NATO move troops into Ukraine or the West intall a no fly zone over Ukraine.

It takes two sides to play the Geopolitical game.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh I see.........Ideally then what would you like to happen ? perhaps NATO move troops into Ukraine or the West intall a no fly zone over Ukraine.

It takes two sides to play the Geopolitical game.

I think Putin has demonstrated properly that Russia is way past due for Regime Change. For the good of global stability, i think we need to start making some big changes in Russia.

It's not fair for Russia to bully and frighten the children all over eastern Europe. I think America has an obligation towards the people of eastern Europe to make sure that the Russian Monster is kept at bay, and i think America has been neglecting that responsibility lately, it's time the sleeping giant awoke. We owe it to the people of eastern Europe who have been intimidated and scared for decades now. They probably have felt very neglected since the cold war ended. Russia is clearly being aggressive, and we vowed to defend them when Russia threatens them.

America has that unfortunate duty to protect the Eastern Europeans, because no one else will, unfortunately the EU(lead by the trinity of cowards: UK,France, and Germany) is as pathetic and powerless and ineffective as always, so it's up to US.

[Z]

I would love to meet Vladimir Putin one day, I think he's fascinating

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

I would love to meet Vladimir Putin one day, I think he's fascinating

He is very Direct
Eye to Eye.



If were telling him the good he is doing
he would give you a min

[arista]

[arista]

Yes Nato is dead



And Russia flew a jet close to a American Ship on Saturday


To be fair this has nothing to do with America

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Nato is dead

it does seem that way right? There's a major conflict going on in Europe, Russia seems happy to take whatever land they canb get their hand on at the moment, but every major American news channel only wants to talk about an asian plane in the indian ocean. If i was in eastern Europe, i would definitely feel abandoned by NATO and The US and EU. I feel sad and scared for them.

[arista]

[arista]

Ukraine has said they can not send Tanks in
as its their own people.


The problem
is Putin has Rights to protect the Russian Speaking people.

The Nato leader (whatever he is for?)
talks of other nations helping.

Other Nations can do nothing

Its Something between Putin and the fake leader of Ukraine


Ref: Ch4HDNews, FoxNewsHD, CNN America, & SkyNewsHD

[arista]

[Five dead as Ukrainian special forces troops remove three illegal checkpoints manned by armed groups

Armoured personnel carriers and a helicopter used in the assault
Russian president Putin said attack constitutes 'a very serious crime' ]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2znrUBuXY




Yes Putin they asking for a you to invade and fight.

[arista]

Title changed its a Civil War now

over 40 killed
days ago.

And Ukraine Forces ran back
after they heard over the border Russia
was getting ready.


Nato claims they are getting ready in other baltic states
near Russia.


"Ukraine crisis 'threatens peace in Europe', says Russia"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ys-Russia.html

[Alf]

We may just get World war III in our lifetime afterall, it was always gonna be between Russia and USA.


Are you ready for war?

[arista]

Originally Posted by wannashag

We may just get World war III in our lifetime afterall, it was always gonna be between Russia and USA.


Are you ready for war?

Yes my Bunker is Fully Stocked

[arista]

[Ukraine: a General reportedly among
dead as Pro Russian rebels down helicopter
Kiev escalates effort to retake Donbass region
as rebel battalion seizes government building
for Donetsk People's Republic]


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sition-donbass


14 killed

The Pro Russians got lucky

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

[Ukraine: a General reportedly among
dead as Pro Russian rebels down helicopter
Kiev escalates effort to retake Donbass region
as rebel battalion seizes government building
for Donetsk People's Republic]


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sition-donbass


14 killed

The Pro Russians got lucky

Yes, and the more sophisticated weapons they get from Russia the luckier they will get.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yes, and the more sophisticated weapons they get from Russia the luckier they will get.

Yes True

[arista]

[Pro-Russian separatists have
shot down an army transport plane
in eastern Ukraine, killing 49 servicemen
and dealing a massive blow to the
campaign to defeat the rebels.]




http://news.sky.com/story/1282045/uk...by-separatists

Civil War

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

[Pro-Russian separatists have
shot down an army transport plane
in eastern Ukraine, killing 49 servicemen
and dealing a massive blow to the
campaign to defeat the rebels.]




http://news.sky.com/story/1282045/uk...by-separatists

Civil War

Without massive assistance from the Western powers Ukraine will not re-establish total control over the eastern side of Ukraine.

The Pro Russian fighters are being supplied with an almost endless amount of sophisticated weaponry and will win a war of attrition.

New Ukrainian President should stop these assaults on eastern cities and try and engage in constructive dialogue.

[arista]

They complain that Russia sends in even more Covert Troops
but America just says increase Sanctions.
Russia can also block lots more USA imports
It works both ways

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

They complain that Russia sends in even more Covert Troops
but America just says increase Sanctions.
Russia can also block lots more USA imports
It works both ways

you don't even make any sense, this is a civil war. it should have nothing to do with Russia or the USA. This is for the Ukraine government to sort out.

Russia has no business interfering at all. Why the **** are they sending in troops to another sovereign country. if the US invaded Mexico everyone would be losing their ****.

Russia has just INVADED UKARAINE> and NATO now as an obligation to protect Europe by responding.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you don't even make any sense, this is a civil war. it should have nothing to do with Russia or the USA. This is for the Ukraine government to sort out.

Russia has no business interfering at all. Why the **** are they sending in troops to another sovereign country. if the US invaded Mexico everyone would be losing their ****.

Russia has just INVADED UKARAINE> and NATO now as an obligation to protect Europe by responding.

They are scared

Putin can not be Stopped

[MTVN]

Peace talks now being held in Minsk between Kiev and Rebel leaders, looks like Vlad may have saved the day with his seven step peace plan

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Peace talks now being held in Minsk between Kiev and Rebel leaders, looks like Vlad may have saved the day with his seven step peace plan

No,Putin says this to try and look diplomatic,all the while he's sending troops and sophisticated anti air weaponary along with tanks over to fight against the Ukrainian army.
Ukraine want to join Nato which Putin will never let happen as it would be a huge threat to him,The last thing he wants is more Nato countries popping up on his borders.This won't end while Ukraine is alligned with the west,Russia will not let it.
The reason Russia sent its soldiers in to take Crimea was that the former president who was ousted was pro-Russian and Putin had him in his palm exactly where he wanted him.Now a pro western government is in power Putin needs to destabalise Ukraine and keep it that way until he gets another leader like the last,Which is'nt going to happen.This won't end no matter how many cease fires they have or peace deals.