[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the Reform Party will release one of the most exciting Party Election Broadcasts ever produced.

A bit like saying its the tastiest turd cake ever baked .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Andrew Neil
@afneil


Latest YouGov poll puts Reform in 19%, Tories on 18%.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Andrew Neil
@afneil


Latest YouGov poll puts Reform in 19%, Tories on 18%.

[arista]

The Home Office has offered
Nigel Farage his own Security


Ch5HDnews.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

The Home Office has offered
Nigel Farage his own Security

[Liam-]

In what possible way is a privately educated, overtly wealthy elitist, a ‘people person’? He’s a less rich Sunak, just better and pretending to care about normal people

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

In what possible way is a privately educated, overtly wealthy elitist, a ‘people person’? He’s a less rich Sunak, just better and pretending to care about normal people

being a people person does not mean you cant have a successful career


Starmer would give his right leg for 5% of Nigel's charisma

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

being a people person does not mean you cant have a successful career

He's not just successful in his own career, he's a privately schooled soggy biscuit sooking knobhead like the rest of them. More at home shagging pig heads with Cameron and BoJo than at Wetherspoons, he just plays to the crowd.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He's not just successful in his own career, he's a privately schooled soggy biscuit sooking knobhead like the rest of the. More at home dhagging pig heads with Cameron and BoJo than at Wrtherspoons, he just plays to the crowd.

Park the unbridled hate SB

everyone can see your knickers

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He's not just successful in his own career, he's a privately schooled soggy biscuit sooking knobhead like the rest of them. More at home shagging pig heads with Cameron and BoJo than at Wetherspoons, he just plays to the crowd.

If Angela rayner is included in that then I'm spending €29 euros.

[arista]

Nigel also Live 8:30PM ITV1HD 7 Leaders debate

[arista]

[MTVN]

Crikey. If Reform do come second in the popular vote but only get a handful of seats it will be a constitutional crisis

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Crikey. If Reform do come second in the popular vote but only get a handful of seats it will be a constitutional crisis

Well Nigel Farage is making this about immigration in this election.
However if Reform got more votes than the Cons as you mentioned.
Then only receiving a handful of seats.

His next match will certainly be pushing for electoral reform to PR.
I'd support that and am getting very optimistic Labour will by the next election, have to be looking at PR.
IF, it wants to stop future absolute power for the Cons.

[joeysteele]

Thats an interesting poll but I'm left confused by the new methodology Yougov is using now in its polls.
Moreso as to the strength of their assumptions.

They have started I believe to 'assume' the distribution of some don't know votes.
That's never easy to assume.
Also too, are asking participants as to how they'd vote possibly tactically too.
Which is obviously going to be a bigger feature this election.

Labour voters, voting LibDem to get or keep a Con out.
LibDem voters to do the same to assist Labour.

Some Greens may do the same too.

There's no doubt Con voters are moving to Reform.
Plus probably don't know voters, more likely most going to Reform rather than to other Parties.

It is really interesting what's happening here and although it pains me to say so.
I don't disagree with Nigel Farage on a fair few points.
However he has for sure woken this election up from the borefest it was before.

[bots]

There is going to be a political realignment after this election. There has to be because reform and the tories have gone too far to the right for the GBP's taste

Someone needs to come up with a new approach to dealing with illegal immigration, but it may mean a reduction in the rights of every individual in the UK, so people need to agree that they are prepared to go that far.

In Russia, the police can ask to see your id, and if you can't provide the right evidence, they lock you up. So there are options available

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There is going to be a political realignment after this election. There has to be because reform and the tories have gone too far to the right for the GBP's taste

Someone needs to come up with a new approach to dealing with illegal immigration, but it may mean a reduction in the rights of every individual in the UK, so people need to agree that they are prepared to go that far.

In Russia, the police can ask to see your id, and if you can't provide the right evidence, they lock you up. So there are options available

We'll pass on this idea.

There's a reason why we're currently a better country than Russia.

[joeysteele]

I rated Penny Mordaunt at one time especially in the Cons first leadership election.
However on both of these shows, her face has resembled more like a bulldog chewing a wasp.
Like she really doesn't want to be there at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I rated Penny Mordaunt at one time especially in the Cons first leadership election.
However on both of these shows, her face has resembled more like a bulldog chewing a wasp.
Like she really doesn't want to be there at all.

exactly how i see her too Joey.

[bots]

Penny is just another ambitious nobody with little to no talent. The tory party is full of them. British politics is full of them

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Penny is just another ambitious nobody with little to no talent. The tory party is full of them. British politics is full of them

Sunak being the main one

[bots]

Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy .......


"Vote Reform UK", "Only Reform UK has a real plan for Britain" - an account on X has posted these and similar messages every couple of hours since the start of the election campaign.

The account, GenZBloomer, is one of dozens across X, Instagram, Facebook and TikTok which the BBC has identified as posting hundreds of repeated messages in comment threads expressing support for Reform UK.

Their behaviour has prompted claims from other social media users that they are fake - automated "bot" accounts - and they are distorting the online conversation to try to exaggerate the popularity of Reform UK.

The BBC contacted people behind the accounts and found that some are genuine UK voters who believe they are helping the party through their own initiative. Others, however, failed to prove they were authentic.

I spotted this pattern of comments in posts recommended to the feeds of our Undercover Voters - 24 fictional people based around the UK with social media accounts, created to investigate what content is recommended to different types of voters during the election. The profiles are private, with no friends. They just like, follow and watch relevant content.

"The main purpose of my account at this time is to restore British culture and values," the GenZbloomer account told me in a message.

Following concerns about foreign interference in previous elections, some social media users have suggested that GenZbloomer - and other similar accounts - may not based in the UK. They have pointed out phrases a native speaker would be unlikely to use, such as "make an article" instead of "write an article" and "neighbourhood tavern" instead of "local pub".

Others are convinced the GenZbloomer profile must be parody - particularly referring to a blog post the account shared on X about how "young men are struggling out here to find traditional British women to date" because women think they are "better than everyone else because of Love Island and Starmer", referring to the Labour leader Sir Keir.

The person who claimed to be behind GenZbloomer told me they were based in "the Annesley England area" - an unusual way to describe the small village in Nottinghamshire - and gave me a UK mobile phone number.

They agreed to speak to me on the phone, but then did not answer any of my calls.

On WhatsApp, their account is labelled as a business account for a "consulting agency", and features a profile image of a faceless cartoon figure with a microphone headset on.

In messages with grammatical mistakes, they claimed to be a "generation Z voter" who wants a "proper Brexit but the conservatives party ruined".

The account claimed to be working "with Reform UK" in order to "help them win and spread their values across the UK".

The person who had been messaging me provided no evidence to support this claim - and a Reform UK spokesperson said this profile was not connected to the party at all. Reform UK told the BBC it had been in touch with social media companies about other accounts falsely purporting to be connected with the party.

Some responses to my messages from GenZbloomer sounded like parody - describing how they would have to speak to a Reform Party county organiser before they spoke to me, but adding that it "should not be an issue Reform has a super lax vetting process".

After a back-and-forth over text message, my phone number then appeared to have been blocked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1335nj316lo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy .......


"Vote Reform UK", "Only Reform UK has a real plan for Britain" - an account on X has posted these and similar messages every couple of hours since the start of the election campaign.

The account, GenZBloomer, is one of dozens across X, Instagram, Facebook and TikTok which the BBC has identified as posting hundreds of repeated messages in comment threads expressing support for Reform UK.

Their behaviour has prompted claims from other social media users that they are fake - automated "bot" accounts - and they are distorting the online conversation to try to exaggerate the popularity of Reform UK.

The BBC contacted people behind the accounts and found that some are genuine UK voters who believe they are helping the party through their own initiative. Others, however, failed to prove they were authentic.

I spotted this pattern of comments in posts recommended to the feeds of our Undercover Voters - 24 fictional people based around the UK with social media accounts, created to investigate what content is recommended to different types of voters during the election. The profiles are private, with no friends. They just like, follow and watch relevant content.

"The main purpose of my account at this time is to restore British culture and values," the GenZbloomer account told me in a message.

Following concerns about foreign interference in previous elections, some social media users have suggested that GenZbloomer - and other similar accounts - may not based in the UK. They have pointed out phrases a native speaker would be unlikely to use, such as "make an article" instead of "write an article" and "neighbourhood tavern" instead of "local pub".

Others are convinced the GenZbloomer profile must be parody - particularly referring to a blog post the account shared on X about how "young men are struggling out here to find traditional British women to date" because women think they are "better than everyone else because of Love Island and Starmer", referring to the Labour leader Sir Keir.

The person who claimed to be behind GenZbloomer told me they were based in "the Annesley England area" - an unusual way to describe the small village in Nottinghamshire - and gave me a UK mobile phone number.

They agreed to speak to me on the phone, but then did not answer any of my calls.

On WhatsApp, their account is labelled as a business account for a "consulting agency", and features a profile image of a faceless cartoon figure with a microphone headset on.

In messages with grammatical mistakes, they claimed to be a "generation Z voter" who wants a "proper Brexit but the conservatives party ruined".

The account claimed to be working "with Reform UK" in order to "help them win and spread their values across the UK".

The person who had been messaging me provided no evidence to support this claim - and a Reform UK spokesperson said this profile was not connected to the party at all. Reform UK told the BBC it had been in touch with social media companies about other accounts falsely purporting to be connected with the party.

Some responses to my messages from GenZbloomer sounded like parody - describing how they would have to speak to a Reform Party county organiser before they spoke to me, but adding that it "should not be an issue Reform has a super lax vetting process".

After a back-and-forth over text message, my phone number then appeared to have been blocked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1335nj316lo

Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy

(link from the BBC)

[bots]

it's interference in the election, so, yes, it is dodgy

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tive-vote.html