[arista]

Yesterdays

[Benjamin]

I understand the arrest for drug suppliers but people blaming them is ridiculous. He was an adult, he chose to take them and if they hadn’t supplied them he would have got them elsewhere. Liam is responsible for his own death.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I understand the arrest for drug suppliers but people blaming them is ridiculous. He was an adult, he chose to take them and if they hadn’t supplied them he would have got them elsewhere. Liam is responsible for his own death.

Of Course its his own doing

But Local Dealers for Junkies
must be arrested in that not-so-nice nation

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I understand the arrest for drug suppliers but people blaming them is ridiculous. He was an adult, he chose to take them and if they hadn’t supplied them he would have got them elsewhere. Liam is responsible for his own death.

Would you say the same about someone who had too much to drink, would you not keep an eye of them in case something happened to them? The guy said he left Liam chatting and joking in the lobby, but witnesses said he fell flat on his face and was agressive, and someone in his entourage apologised for his behaviour

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Would you say the same about someone who had too much to drink, would you not keep an eye of them in case something happened to them? The guy said he left Liam chatting and joking in the lobby, but witnesses said he fell flat on his face and was agressive, and someone in his entourage apologised for his behaviour

I was talking about the drug suppliers.

Maybe when he left Liam he was joking and chatting? We don’t know that wasn’t true. People can turn quickly in their moods, especially on drugs.

But with a friend who’s had too much to drink it depends how bad they were. If they were clearly stumbling and falling then you’d put them in their room and then leave them. You wouldn’t expect them to climb on a balcony.

As sad as it is, Liam is responsible for his own death. He chose to take drugs and get on the balcony.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I was talking about the drug suppliers.

Maybe when he left Liam he was joking and chatting? We don’t know that wasn’t true. People can turn quickly in their moods, especially on drugs.

But with a friend who’s had too much to drink it depends how bad they were. If they were clearly stumbling and falling then you’d put them in their room and then leave them. You wouldn’t expect them to climb on a balcony.

As sad as it is, Liam is responsible for his own death. He chose to take drugs and get on the balcony.

Well yes technically but the sad thing is if someone cared enough he might be alive, obviously if someone chokes on their own vomit after too much to drink they are responsible for their own death but if someone cared enough to keep an eye on them a life could have been saved, also we dont know what the relationship was with this guy, if he was paid to look after Liam there must be some culpability because he was **** as his job

As for drug dealers well yes they peddle death

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

if he was paid to look after Liam there must be some culpability because he was **** as his job

Not unless he was legally classed as a vulnerable adult, and even then, if the responsible person in question isn't a healthcare professional, whether or not they have any "real" responsibility is dubious at best.

Bottom line is, he was an adult with full capacity to act with autonomy, so while they could follow him and keep an eye on him in public, if he went into his room and said that he didn't want anyone to come in with him, there's not much anyone could realistically have done.

That said

I reckon his staff (and from the sounds of it, hotel staff) were providing/facilitating access to drugs etc. so that's another matter.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I understand the arrest for drug suppliers but people blaming them is ridiculous. He was an adult, he chose to take them and if they hadn’t supplied them he would have got them elsewhere. Liam is responsible for his own death.

Completely agree.

He was 31. He didn’t need a babysitter.

[Zizu]

Did anything come of Neil Horan publicly criticising/embarrassing Liam days before the tragedy

( from what I recall Liam went to one of Neil Horan’s concerts and was shown to be interacting with some of the fans - perfectly understandable surely ?

Immediately after images of the interaction appeared online / X .. Neil posted some very disparaging remarks aimed at poor Liam suggesting he was desperate for attention or similar .. )


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[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Did anything come of Neil Horan publicly criticising/embarrassing Liam days before the tragedy

( from what I recall Liam went to one of Neil Horan’s concerts and was shown to be interacting with some of the fans - perfectly understandable surely ?

Immediately after images of the interaction appeared online / X .. Neil posted some very disparaging remarks aimed at poor Liam suggesting he was desperate for attention or similar .. )


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He was doing in authorised meet and greets outside the venue and tried making about himself inside the arena while Niall was performing.

Harry Styles watched the concert away from the audience to not take any attention from Niall.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

He was doing in authorised meet and greets outside the venue and tried making about himself inside the arena while Niall was performing.

Harry Styles watched the concert away from the audience to not take any attention from Niall.

Interesting


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[Glenn.]

He was a very arrogant man.

His disastrous interview where he talked about someone laying their hands on him was hilarious and cringe.

[Kate!]

Funny that how every single tribute to him..... and there were tons of them....say the exact opposite of him being in anyway arrogant.

He did a hell of a lot for charities, giving something back, to the tune of thousands upon thousands of pounds. But let's ignore all that and slam a dead young man eh?

Not an ounce of compassion some people.

[Glenn.]

He was extremely arrogant.
Arrogantly tried to hijack his friends concert by doing unofficial meet and greets and had to be asked to stop by Nialls security team.
And arrogantly took a cocktail of drugs he thought he could handle and fell off a balcony.
Arrogantly gave an interview where he embarrassed himself because it was so cringe.

Arrogant.

You have the likes of Rita Ora who is as about as relevant as Liam Paynes solo career crying about him at the awards last night or the other night whenever it was. It’s all so very cringe.

[Ninastar]

I thought he did a really solid Gandalf impersonation

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I thought he did a really solid Gandalf impersonation

Must have missed that

[Ammi]

…(…I think..)…that it might be Liam’s funeral today…

[Crimson Dynamo]

welp



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-happened.html

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

welp



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-happened.html

I have to subscribe?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

welp



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-happened.html

can you copy and paste as I cant see the article please

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

can you copy and paste as I cant see the article please

Yes DailyMail+
costs cash to view.

[Niamh.]

Closing this for 24 hours so you two can cool off

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah it was Liam's funeral today. My heart is with his parents having to say goodbye. Heartbreaking

[Zizu]

Nial must still regret being so cruel towards Liam days before his death … pity they didn’t get time to sort out their differences


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[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Nial must still regret being so cruel towards Liam days before his death … pity they didn’t get time to sort out their differences


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wot he do? spill the goss