[arista]

Originally Posted by Lee.

The scaremongering from the Better Together campaign and the BBC

Bang On Right
Wise Lee

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

We wouldn't.. We'd be one of the wealthiest countries on the EU. Even Cameron and Isbourne have been forced to admit it.

There is a very good reason Westminster don't want an independent Scotland..

Where would this money be coming from Lee?

[Jemal]

Dont Scotland have a fair amount of oil?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Dont Scotland have a fair amount of oil?

Oil isn't going to last forever.

[Lee.]

Well.. We'll start off with the 57 billion pounds tax revenue which would be kept in Scotland to be spent in Scotland.. On top of that we have North Sea oil revenue, an ever growing service sector, fishing, tourism, agriculture, natural energy etc etc.. We're really not a small, stupid country..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Dont Scotland have a fair amount of oil?

Yes there will be fight over some of it
as its in the Sea
and Owned by Internationals

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Josy

Oil isn't going to last forever.

Still abit valuable while it does last tbfh

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes there will be fight over some it
as its in the Sea
and Owned by Internationals

Ooo

[arista]

Today is Historic Day
as this massive document is now out.


296 days
to pick

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Well.. We'll start off with the 57 billion pounds tax revenue which would be kept in Scotland to be spent in Scotland.. On top of that we have North Sea oil revenue, an ever growing service sector, fishing, tourism, agriculture, natural energy etc etc.. We're really not a small, stupid country..

No we aren't a small stupid country but we don't have as much wealth as some seem to think, not all of the north sea oil belongs to us either.

[Jemal]

Still don't think Scotland will go independent anyways.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Still don't think Scotland will go independent anyways.

But we have to see what Scotland will get.



BBC Local Scotland News is now on for a Hour
As under TV Rules they must show both sides of this Debate

[fingers]

I'm not interested in anything that wee fat Eck or his thin lipped cohort says>

[arista]

Originally Posted by fingers

I'm not interested in anything that wee fat Eck or his thin lipped cohort says>

Sure
no problem

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Still abit valuable while it does last tbfh

Very valuable.. Probably in the trillions.. And new oil fields have been dud covered off the coast of the Shetland Isles.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Josy

Could the bolded part be any more provocative?

What makes no sense is voting for independence for our country, which if independent would end up a total mess, we would struggle financially, people that depend on benefits and free nhs treatment/prescriptions could potentially suffer, we can't afford to be independent.

The truth is we would be a poor country.

And before anyone mentions the north sea oil, that's hardly a dependable income.

I love being Scottish and I love my country but I want it to remain as part of the UK.

Most people that want independence have been watching too much Braveheart MIO.

No ... No .... No you are a bit sad and misguided if you cannot appreciate this opportunity to get your Country back after being told what to do by your bigger richer neighbour for over 300 years...!!!

It's as simple as that really it is!!!! Forget the money this ain't about money it's about a nation deciding its own future standing on its own legs and shaping its own destiny ....

For gods sake take the opportunity and grab it with both hands and stop worrying about the possible teething problems...

All Scottish people must surely want to rule their own country

C'mon c'mon its a no brainer vote YES to an independant Scotland

Finally ....!!!!!!

[joeysteele]

I still firmly believe and hope too that Scotland votes to remain part of the UK.
I still doubt that more than 40% of Scots who vote, will vote for independence.

However, I have great admiration for Alex Salmond and I believe the more arrogant at Westminster underestimate how good a politician he really is.
I haven't any time for Nicola Sturgeon but I do consider Alex Salmond very persuasive,if anyone can make a really close battle as to this then he certainly can,especially if the Prime Minister of the UK sits back and does and says nothing or very little.

David Cameron may yet go down in history to be such an even more disastrous PM of the UK that he opened the door to the break up of the UK but also allowed it to happen with little resistance..

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Very valuable.. Probably in the trillions.

...are you mad, Lee? Trillions?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

...are you mad, Lee? Trillions?

I'm reasonably sane thank you very much. Yes, trillions.

[Lee.]

I'll tell you what is crazy though.. Scotland is the only country in the world to have discovered oil and become poorer

[Livia]

Interesting to see a statistic today that says when questioned, a higher percentage of English people want to see Scotland leave the UK, than Scottish people want to leave.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'll tell you what is crazy though.. Scotland is the only country in the world to have discovered oil and become poorer

I thought it was British Petroleum that found the oil.

[fingers]

Wee fat Eck's brainwashing tactics unfortunately sometimes find fertile imaginations.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Interesting to see a statistic today that says when questioned, a higher percentage of English people want to see Scotland leave the UK, than Scottish people want to leave.

English people being xenophobic?? No! Never! I refuse to believe your cruel slander.

[user104658]

My thoughts on it recently, are that it's probably worth taking the risk, just because no one ever gets anything without being bold.

Either Scotland gets independence and prospers, OR it goes tits up and everyone is worse off... But at least there's the CHANCE of prosperity.

The other option ... Nothing changes and we plod on forever with things being "a bit rubbish". Scotland may have a solid and "safe" foundation as part of the UK but it will never truly flourish. Ever. It will just continue to be a bit drab, and sad. I find modern Scotland just tragic. The scenery and the countryside is simply stunning... But then you enter any of the towns and villages and they are utterly depressing. Cold, grey ****holes full of miserable, addicted people.

Somewhere along the line, things have gone very wrong, and frankly... As long as Scotland is governed by London... Nothing is ever going to improve.

Independence is a massive risk. But who prospers without risk? The "safe" alternative ... is utterly bleak.