[Macie Lightfoot]

which is almost always exclusively for white people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

which is almost always exclusively for white people

Has nothing to do with 90% of most casts being white and having a much higher chance of winning then?

[Raph]

Best thread in all of TiBB

[Pete.]

Lateysha Rose and Natalie Nunn from BB17 </3

[Pete.]

The ONLY reason for Saira's eviction

[Samm]

oh wow hi, all the other loose women have lasted a long way

[MB.]

Racists and Harry Styles fans, yes

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Racists and Harry Styles fans, yes

I loved Harry Styles when I was 16

[Daniel.]

I bet that if three woman were like Heav, Bear and Lewis and a man had behaved like Sara, they would be top of the votes. It's blatant racism and sexism from a bunch of uneducated chavs in the crowd

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

I bet that if three woman were like Heav, Bear and Lewis and a man had behaved like Sara, they would be top of the votes. It's blatant racism and sexism from a bunch of uneducated chavs in the crowd

[Jamie89]

It's hard to argue with a 17 year correlation that continues to be added to

[Jamie89]

I don't think it's overt racism btw, but I definitely think race has played a part in the popularity/unpopularity of the vast majority of housemates from ethnically diverse backgrounds.

The sad fact is that some of the public are racist, that can't be disputed, and yes some housemates can overcome that (Brian Belo/Shilpa etc) but that doesn't change the fact that for the most part, black/asian/indian etc housemates will always start off at a disadvantage that others don't face and will have to do more to be accepted.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I don't think it's overt racism btw, but I definitely think race has played a part in the popularity/unpopularity of the vast majority of housemates from ethnically diverse backgrounds.

The sad fact is that some of the public are racist, that can't be disputed, and yes some housemates can overcome that (Brian Belo/Shilpa etc) but that doesn't change the fact that for the most part, black/asian/indian etc housemates will always start off at a disadvantage that others don't face and will have to do more to be accepted.

Well said.

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I don't think it's overt racism btw, but I definitely think race has played a part in the popularity/unpopularity of the vast majority of housemates from ethnically diverse backgrounds.

The sad fact is that some of the public are racist, that can't be disputed, and yes some housemates can overcome that (Brian Belo/Shilpa etc) but that doesn't change the fact that for the most part, black/asian/indian etc housemates will always start off at a disadvantage that others don't face and will have to do more to be accepted.

I agree 100%. Minorities always start off at a disadvantage

I think the BBUK public are more sexist than racist though

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I don't think it's overt racism btw, but I definitely think race has played a part in the popularity/unpopularity of the vast majority of housemates from ethnically diverse backgrounds.

The sad fact is that some of the public are racist, that can't be disputed, and yes some housemates can overcome that (Brian Belo/Shilpa etc) but that doesn't change the fact that for the most part, black/asian/indian etc housemates will always start off at a disadvantage that others don't face and will have to do more to be accepted.

I think it's pretty telling that the first and only ethnic winners we've had on this show both happened to win in 2007 - the year of racial misconduct in BBUK.

I think it's pretty telling that Danielle and Jack walked out of the house in CBB5 to cheers whilst Shabnam, Nicky and Charley all left to deafening boos just a few months later.

I also think it's telling that Conor walked out of the house with Ł50k in his pocket to a winner's reception whilst Shievonne and Deana were both booed upon leaving. The former he thrashed in the eviction despite being way worse and the latter which he spent the majority of his stay bullying.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I think it's pretty telling that the first and only ethnic winners we've had on this show both happened to win in 2007 - the year of racial misconduct in BBUK.

I think it's pretty telling that Danielle and Jack walked out of the house in CBB5 to cheers whilst Shabnam, Nicky and Charley all left to deafening boos just a few months later.

I also think it's telling that Conor walked out of the house with Ł50k in his pocket to a winner's reception whilst Shievonne and Deana were both booed upon leaving. The former he thrashed in the eviction despite being way worse and the latter which he spent the majority of his stay bullying.

It actually makes me a little mad to think someone like Scotty T (just the first example that sprung to mind) just has to be a hot guy to win (literally can't remember anything he did) whereas someone like Shilpa has to be a front page newsworthy victim of racist bullying (oh and let's not forget she still got booed on final night!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

It actually makes me a little mad to think someone like Scotty T (just the first example that sprung to mind) just has to be a hot guy to win (literally can't remember anything he did) whereas someone like Shilpa has to be a front page newsworthy victim of racist bullying (oh and let's not forget she still got booed on final night!

I agree Jamie. It stinks.

[Ashley.]

However I disagree that ethnic minorities are evicted early solely because they are a minority. Sometimes, it's purely down to coincidence.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah it's not a matter of people being explicitly racist, but this is a show that routinely rewards white people for being average and is extremely forgiving towards them, and you have to work your butt off to impress the public as a person of color.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

yeah it's not a matter of people being explicitly racist, but this is a show that routinely rewards white people for being average and is extremely forgiving towards them, and you have to work your butt off to impress the public as a person of color.

Pretty much this

I also think typecasting plays a major part too e.g. the "Angry Black Woman", "Abrasive Asian Woman" etc.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Pretty much this

I also think typecasting plays a major part too e.g. the "Angry Black Woman", "Abrasive Asian Woman" etc.

I agree with this. BBUK relies too much on stereotypes when casting housemates and we always end up getting the same personality. It's like they're cast to play a certain role and it's really annoying.

Out of the many black women we've had on BBUK there's only really been a few which didn't fit into that 'angry black woman' stereotype - Melanie, Alison, Makosi, Vanessa, Rachael (but even then they were either evicted early or vilified by the public by the time they left the house )

[Tom4784]

I think there's a definite element of it in the voting.

[Lush]

Racism and especially Sexism are the #1 ruiners of every BB series.

The vile chavvy female audience also need to have their access to their phones, televisions and the live audience set permanently cut off as well.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Lush

Racism and especially Sexism are the #1 ruiners of every BB series.

The vile chavvy female audience also need to have their access to their phones, televisions and the live audience set permanently cut off as well.

I actually think that the audience are becoming more interested in females doing well.

Lets look at the likes of CBB17 in January. Tiffany.. she showed traits of herself that in theory would make you hated in the show, she was argumentative at times, she was not white (lets be honest, this is true whether people want to admit it or not) and she spoke about sex and was very forward... and she was loved by women. Same with Megan, she's the typical "first week boot" when the show was on C5, She threw tantrums, she was known for having sex as her claim to fame and she swore like no one else.... she may have been evicted (VTS) but had a great reception.

Then BB17... Marco the first male evicted ever for civilian against females. The fact that "good looking" Alex was evicted in a VTW vote with less votes with good looking FEMALE Evelyn.

Females seem to be doing better on C5 at the moment.

[Jason.]

BB17 still had the lowest-placing last female standing.

Not to mention 2016 is the first C5 year where all the winners have been men, every other year bar 2011 has had at least one female winner.