[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I read a theory that

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Jon will ride the Wight/Ice Dragon. With the dragons connection to the targaryen bloodline extending beyond death, Jon will manage to take control of it in battle and it will turn on the walkers. Apparently there's been a theory about an ice dragon floating about for ages; some speculating that there might be one frozen inside the wall... But it'll now probably be viseryon.

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It does make sense for the "song of ice and fire", with Jon being g "ice".

If they do that then it's just more bull**** stuff to give Jon Snow all because the TV writers clearly like his character the most.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I read a theory that

Spoiler:

Jon will ride the Wight/Ice Dragon. With the dragons connection to the targaryen bloodline extending beyond death, Jon will manage to take control of it in battle and it will turn on the walkers. Apparently there's been a theory about an ice dragon floating about for ages; some speculating that there might be one frozen inside the wall... But it'll now probably be viseryon.

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It does make sense for the "song of ice and fire", with Jon being g "ice".

Would make more sense if he rode the dragon named after his father, lol

[Novo]

Can someone pm me a link to the episode, before I read any spoilers, cheers.

[Locke.]

Jon will never fight Daenerys for the throne. He's not an entitled brat like she is. If she dies then he'll give up his title in the North and take it, but wouldn't otherwise.

Ep6

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After this episode I think it's time for Jon to just remain out of battles tbh. Him and Robb are polar opposites in this sense. Jon makes the smart choices when it comes to alliances and plotting, Robb won every battle he went into and tactically outclassed every battle commander he came up against, including Tywin, Jaime, and the Mountain. I don't think we've actually seen Jon win a battle of his own accord yet

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Jon will never fight Daenerys for the throne. He's not an entitled brat like she is. If she dies then he'll give up his title in the North and take it, but wouldn't otherwise.

Ep6

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After this episode I think it's time for Jon to just remain out of battles tbh. Him and Robb are polar opposites in this sense. Jon makes the smart choices when it comes to alliances and plotting, Robb won every battle he went into and tactically outclassed every battle commander he came up against, including Tywin, Jaime, and the Mountain. I don't think we've actually seen Jon win a battle of his own accord yet

Yeah, Jon is great IN a battle, up there with the best fighters in the show... And he's a good leader/king also - but he's not a tactician. Most leaders aren't, Rob was an exception, most have "Generals" (such as Cersei having Jaime, or Dany having various tactical advisors) and plan the broad strokes, rather than individual battle plans.

[Brother Leon]

I don't think Jon is supposed to be a master tactician though. He's just a badass fighter who will always lead the line with his people, hence why he often finds himself in ****.

His resume is pretty insane considering he's killed White Walkers and fought Wights,Wildlings,Thenns,Nights Watch Traitors and Boltons and is still knocking about.

[Locke.]

Think the only person that has beaten Jon in single combat is the Night's Watch mutineer that killed Lord Commander Mormont isn't it. Jon was down and out and one of Craster's daughters interfered and handed him the win

Here it is, feels so much longer ago than season 4

Youtube video

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Think the only person that has beaten Jon in single combat is the Night's Watch mutineer that killed Lord Commander Mormont isn't it. Jon was down and out and one of Craster's daughters interfered and handed him the win

Here it is, feels so much longer ago than season 4

Youtube video

I'd also say that even though it's only 3 seasons ago, he was actually still pretty "green" at that point. His main downfall is recklessness... Throwing himself in against unwinnable odds (staring down the Boltons alone, and charging a million Wights on foot...) . Which is, I suppose, why he doesn't make a good tactician either. He has more of a Wilding than Soldier mentality really, which I suppose goes all the way back.

[user104658]

Or I guess you could see it as... He has a fiery Targeryen temper, unlike the other Stark kids, who have all been quite cold and calculating in different ways.

[King Gizzard]

This has no relevance to anything but wish they never killed Mance

Sure I read he gets saved in the books and is replaced by someone else

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by King Gizzard

This has no relevance to anything but wish they never killed Mance

Sure I read he gets saved in the books and is replaced by someone else

Yeah in the books

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Melisandre does a spell to make another wildling look like Mance and that's who's killed, she gives Mance a ruby that makes him look like the wildling (like the one she wears that makes her look young

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah in the books

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Melisandre does a spell to make another wildling look like Mance and that's who's killed, she gives Mance a ruby that makes him look like the wildling (like the one she wears that makes her look young

Yeah was a good twist that, If I remember right

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think Mance takes the appearance of Rattleshirt (lord of bones), Jon goes to battle him but gets completely destroyed and beaten in single combat and is bewildered by it, which is when it's start to be revealed it was actually Mance he fought

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon

If I remember right

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think Mance takes the appearance of Rattlesnake, Jon goes to battle him but gets completely destroyed and beaten in single combat and is bewildered by it, which is when it's start to be revealed it was actually Mance he fought

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Didn't he go to Winterfell too and help rescue Fake Arya and then get captured by Ramsay?

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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Didn't he go to Winterfell too and help rescue Fake Arya and then get captured by Ramsay?

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think so yeah, their are so many people that have been captured or bring held prisoner by Ramsay, Roose, or Stannis in the last book though, hard to keep up at times

[Smithy]

Had a dream last night that I was riding Rhaegal chasing Cersei (who was trying to escape on a motorbike) and i just kept screaming dracarys trying to kill her

[Glenn.]

Omfg I had a dream I was flying on a dragon around work.

[Denver]

Im half way through series 2 and after hating on this for years im now obsessed

[King Gizzard]

Can't wait to find out what happens tonight !!!

[Shaun]

right then let's livepost this

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Gendry being roasted
Jorah getting a nice moment, totally not going to die is he
Arya/Sansa beef
Arya being an unreasonable dickhead all along </3 what an unfortunate sudden character flaw
Sansa DESTROYING her

ok @ "dick, i like it"
tormund/the hound are the friendship this show needs, though

it's really hard to like Beric after what he was like in Fortitude. I wonder if he (the actor) gets bored of snow

daenerys being a size queen? no wonder smithy stans

this show would drastically improve if tyrion shot daenerys on the toilet too

oh an evil polar bear!

welp bye thoros

LEG IT LADS!!!!

erm when did Gendry split up from the rest of them I am not losing him now

oh this stakeout around the frozen sea is rather scary

erm the lord of light isn't just going to turn out to be Dany is it? not here for that

do none of the wights own a bow & arrow? i mean...

brienne doing her utmost to expose littlefinger

oh daenerys has a nice seasonal white "killing wights" outfit, that's nice

skeletor getting bold and making his way across the ice <3

THIS IS A LOT

DRAGONS!!! BOY I HOPE THEY PULL THROUGH TONIGHT'S SHOW!!!

...oh

BENJEN!

...oh

more unnecessary arya being a bitch stuff go **** yourselves with this BS @writers

UM PLEASE DON'T SAY THEY CAN MAKE A WIGHT DRAGON? OH THEY CAN OK

[Brother Leon]

Was so much better on TV. Now that the episode has aired, it's safe to openly post about it. It all makes sense now as to why the Night King has been taking his time. He obviously saw this happen with his Greenseeing and was awaiting the opportunity to capture a Dragon. I imagine this is how he breaks the wall now.

Jon bending the knee and suddenly falling in love sucks and is out of character, but tbh the Northern Lords are snakey twats anyway and don't deserve a King like Jon and the Scene was nice. Night King and a Dragon = Game Over. He took Viserion down with ease and would probably to the same to the others. Bran is our last hope and Saviour.

Oh and shouts to Uncle Benjen. What a man. Our true protector until the very end.

[King Gizzard]

He could have easily just whisked Jon up onto the horse though, that annoyed me. I know he can't pass the wall but he could have got to safety..or at least say "I can't go beyond the wall" and not "there's no time" when he had time to dismount the horse and walk over to Jon..I know it happened for the drama and story but it was stupid. Jack and Rose on the door part two

Would love to have seen him in the final battle next season

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by King Gizzard

He could have easily just whisked Jon up onto the horse though, that annoyed me. I know he can't pass the wall but he could have got to safety..or at least say "I can't go beyond the wall" and not "there's no time" when he had time to dismount the horse and walk over to Jon..I know it happened for the drama and story but it was stupid. Jack and Rose on the door part two

Would love to have seen him in the final battle next season

He was keeping the walkers busy to give Jon time to escape though, also maybe he was fed up of riding around dead and stuff

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by King Gizzard

He could have easily just whisked Jon up onto the horse though, that annoyed me. I know he can't pass the wall but he could have got to safety..or at least say "I can't go beyond the wall" and not "there's no time" when he had time to dismount the horse and walk over to Jon..I know it happened for the drama and story but it was stupid. Jack and Rose on the door part two

Would love to have seen him in the final battle next season

Yeah, that annoyed me too, but I suppose he must be so fed up of being half dead and figured this was the right time to sacrifice himself.

As for the White Walker reveal, I think it was always assumed that if they somehow killed the Night King then the war would be over. Problem is, that isn't going to be easy by any means.

[King Gizzard]

Yeah but they take 8337373 years to travel so the writers want us to believe so he could have moonwalked and still got away..

[King Gizzard]

Hope that whole kill a white Walker and the people he's raised die too thing doesn't apply to the Night King or that would be the biggest cop out ever. I assume the other white walkers wouldn't die, and it just applies to whites? He didn't raise the other WW's from the dead so to speak..he turned them when they were still alive as babies..

Would be cool go see white walker children next season..