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there is lots to be learned from wrecks, just like there is now lots to learn from the titan wreck
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Also if there’s only a handful of craft that can go that far down how have they managed to salvage 6,500 artefacts from the wreck


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Another ‘take’ on the situation

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It seems to me that the vessel was not safe. It was done by cutting corners about safety.
I'm surprised those rich people didn't run checks on them to make sure things were done people?
Heartbreaking anyway, those poor people.
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He’s a media sensation apparently ..


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Fed up of people making comparisons to the Pakistan migrants that drown.
1. The sub had 3 brits on board, the boat had 0 brits on board
2. Since when was Pakistan a country that you needed to flee from. They were all just greedy economic migrants.
3. How many on that boat hated western culture and wanted to kill us?

The only comparison is that both the boat and the sub had Pakistanis on who were willing to risk their children’s life for what? Let’s talk about that fact.

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Fed up of people making comparisons to the Pakistan migrants that drown.
1. The sub had 3 brits on board, the boat had 0 brits on board
2. Since when was Pakistan a country that you needed to flee from. They were all just greedy economic migrants.
3. How many on that boat hated western culture and wanted to kill us?

The only comparison is that both the boat and the sub had Pakistanis on who were willing to risk their children’s life for what? Let’s talk about that fact.
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to be fair the american boy was virtue signalling for clout

like he even knows where Pakistan is, lol
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Soooo the media are now reporting that the mini sub wasn’t even registered as a boat / submarine/ marine craft at all so they didn’t have to abide by all the stringent rules and regulations in place !!!


Also … why on Earth where they allowed to go down so close to the wreck of the Titanic … most historical sites are heavily regulated and protected.


I’m thinking some greasy palms may have had cash placed in them …


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Yes, Handy the CEO died with it.

He failed
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The mother of the teenager who died on the Titan submersible gave up her place to her son after the original trip was postponed due to Covid.

Suleman Dawood, 19, and his father Shahzada were among five people who died when the vessel imploded on a journey to view the wreck of the Titanic.

Christine Dawood told the BBC her son had been disappointed that he was not old enough to accompany them on the original trip scheduled before the pandemic.

“It was supposed to be Shahzada and I going down,” she said. “I stepped back and gave the place to Suleman because he really wanted to go.”


The mother of the teenager who died on the Titan submersible gave up her place to her son after the original trip was postponed due to Covid.

Suleman Dawood, 19, and his father Shahzada were among five people who died when the vessel imploded on a journey to view the wreck of the Titanic.

Christine Dawood told the BBC her son had been disappointed that he was not old enough to accompany them on the original trip scheduled before the pandemic.

“It was supposed to be Shahzada and I going down,” she said. “I stepped back and gave the place to Suleman because he really wanted to go.”


Asked how she felt about the decision, she simply said: “Let’s just skip that.”

She said “both of them were so excited” and her son had taken a Rubik’s Cube with him because he wanted to break a world record.

Mrs Dawood said her son loved the famous square puzzle so much that he carried it with him everywhere and dazzled onlookers by solving it in 12 seconds.

She told the broadcaster: “He said, ‘I’m going to solve the Rubik’s Cube 3,700 metres below sea at the Titanic’.”

The family boarded the Polar Prince, the sub’s support vessel, on Father’s Day hoping for the trip of a lifetime.

Mrs Dawood and her 17-year-old daughter Alina were still on board when word came through that communications with Titan had been lost.

She and her daughter held out hope to begin with after they did not initially return.

She said: “We all thought they are just going to come up so that shock was delayed by about 10 hours or so.

“By the time they were supposed to be up again, there was a time…. when they were supposed to be up on the surface again and when that time passed, the real shock, not shock but the worry and the not so good feelings, started.

“We had loads of hope, I think that was the only thing that got us through it because we were hoping and… we talked about things that pilots can do like dropping weights, there were so many actions people on the sub can do in order to surface.

We were constantly looking at the surface. There was so many things we would go through where we would think ‘it’s just slow right now, it’s slow right now’. But there was a lot of hope.”


She said she “lost hope” when 96 hours had passed since her husband and son boarded the submersible, which indicated they had run out of oxygen.

She revealed that is when she sent a message to her family saying she was “preparing for the worst”.

Her daughter held out a bit longer, she said, until the call with the US Coast Guard when they were informed debris had been found.

The family returned to St John’s in Newfoundland, Canada, on Saturday, and on Sunday held a funeral prayer for Shahzada and Suleman.

Mrs Dawood said she and her daughter have vowed to try to learn to finish the Rubik’s Cube in Suleman’s honour, and she intends to continue her husband’s work.

She said: “He was involved in so many things, he helped so many people and I think Alina and I really want to continue that legacy and give him that platform when his work has continued and it’s quite important for my daughter as well.

“Alina and I said we are going learn how to solve the Rubik’s Cube. That’s going to be a challenge for us because we are really bad at it but we are going to learn it.”


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The mother of the teenager who died on the Titan submersible gave up her place to her son after the original trip was postponed due to Covid.

Suleman Dawood, 19, and his father Shahzada were among five people who died when the vessel imploded on a journey to view the wreck of the Titanic.

Christine Dawood told the BBC her son had been disappointed that he was not old enough to accompany them on the original trip scheduled before the pandemic.

“It was supposed to be Shahzada and I going down,” she said. “I stepped back and gave the place to Suleman because he really wanted to go.”


The mother of the teenager who died on the Titan submersible gave up her place to her son after the original trip was postponed due to Covid.

Suleman Dawood, 19, and his father Shahzada were among five people who died when the vessel imploded on a journey to view the wreck of the Titanic.

Christine Dawood told the BBC her son had been disappointed that he was not old enough to accompany them on the original trip scheduled before the pandemic.

“It was supposed to be Shahzada and I going down,” she said. “I stepped back and gave the place to Suleman because he really wanted to go.”


Asked how she felt about the decision, she simply said: “Let’s just skip that.”

She said “both of them were so excited” and her son had taken a Rubik’s Cube with him because he wanted to break a world record.

Mrs Dawood said her son loved the famous square puzzle so much that he carried it with him everywhere and dazzled onlookers by solving it in 12 seconds.

She told the broadcaster: “He said, ‘I’m going to solve the Rubik’s Cube 3,700 metres below sea at the Titanic’.”

The family boarded the Polar Prince, the sub’s support vessel, on Father’s Day hoping for the trip of a lifetime.

Mrs Dawood and her 17-year-old daughter Alina were still on board when word came through that communications with Titan had been lost.

She and her daughter held out hope to begin with after they did not initially return.

She said: “We all thought they are just going to come up so that shock was delayed by about 10 hours or so.

“By the time they were supposed to be up again, there was a time…. when they were supposed to be up on the surface again and when that time passed, the real shock, not shock but the worry and the not so good feelings, started.

“We had loads of hope, I think that was the only thing that got us through it because we were hoping and… we talked about things that pilots can do like dropping weights, there were so many actions people on the sub can do in order to surface.

We were constantly looking at the surface. There was so many things we would go through where we would think ‘it’s just slow right now, it’s slow right now’. But there was a lot of hope.”


She said she “lost hope” when 96 hours had passed since her husband and son boarded the submersible, which indicated they had run out of oxygen.

She revealed that is when she sent a message to her family saying she was “preparing for the worst”.

Her daughter held out a bit longer, she said, until the call with the US Coast Guard when they were informed debris had been found.

The family returned to St John’s in Newfoundland, Canada, on Saturday, and on Sunday held a funeral prayer for Shahzada and Suleman.

Mrs Dawood said she and her daughter have vowed to try to learn to finish the Rubik’s Cube in Suleman’s honour, and she intends to continue her husband’s work.

She said: “He was involved in so many things, he helped so many people and I think Alina and I really want to continue that legacy and give him that platform when his work has continued and it’s quite important for my daughter as well.

“Alina and I said we are going learn how to solve the Rubik’s Cube. That’s going to be a challenge for us because we are really bad at it but we are going to learn it.”


Shame on the lying Aunt wanting her 15 minutes of fame

Yeah … so much for all the hate directed at the dad for supposedly forcing his reluctant son to go down with him


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Disgraceful really, she obviously really had issues with her brother and his wife to put the boot in like that, there was something really off about her interview I felt
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this submersible was only qualified for ''only'' 1/3 of the depth required to reach titanic apparently, so i read


they shouldn't have ever left? this was so preventable, and i'm more surprised it happened only now, and not in the many trips before this fatal one
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this submersible was only qualified for ''only'' 1/3 of the depth required to reach titanic apparently, so i read


they shouldn't have ever left? this was so preventable, and i'm more surprised it happened only now, and not in the many trips before this fatal one
I read that the viewing port at the front was only rated up to 1/3 the depth. The doesn't mean it can't go deeper but it does mean that the manufacturer is saying they will only guarantee it to that depth and using it beyond that would be "at your own risk".

The whole thing is mad really, the safety standards were pretty much non-existent. This will lead to regulation of the industry I imagine, and rightly so (i.e. these sorts of subs will have to be assessed and signed off by a regulatory group before companies are allowed to sell tickets to the public).
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I read that the viewing port at the front was only rated up to 1/3 the depth. The doesn't mean it can't go deeper but it does mean that the manufacturer is saying they will only guarantee it to that depth and using it beyond that would be "at your own risk".

The whole thing is mad really, the safety standards were pretty much non-existent. This will lead to regulation of the industry I imagine, and rightly so (i.e. these sorts of subs will have to be assessed and signed off by a regulatory group before companies are allowed to sell tickets to the public).
the whole at your own risk makes me want to double check it then before going off and selling it to the public


but we know now too that the late CEO Mr Rush liked to bend some of the rules, i think he wouldn't have minded cutting some corners in terms of lesser inspection work, saves up money


similar happened at Alaska Airlines, back when that one crashed near the coast of california, when its tail rudder simply broke off, when that could've been an easy fix by maintenance crew, but the alaska airlines bosses told them not to as that was gonna take more time, also similar, there was also a whistleblower who tried to expose them but got sacked few days before the accident


i very much agree, always agree anyway with NTSB team, that you should never save up money on inspections or maintenance, something what might just save lives
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Heck... with rapidly advancing VR tech as well, you could probably feel like you're at the bottom of the ocean on a live stream from a drone, without leaving your bedroom .
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Human remains have been recovered. Ew. Do you think they are all squashed into one?
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After all this time .. can’t be any if the sub survivors surely ..


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