[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Return the rest of the hostages. If people really want a ceasefire why aren't they calling for that?

Doubt there are any hostages still alive given that Gaza has been flattened into a dustbowl at this point.

[Quantum Boy]

"Hello, 'scuse me, where are the hostages?"

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

Ch4HDnews
9 food trucks went into Gaza.

Sadly, that is not enough
reports say.

Children are sadly dying.
A British Doctor there
confirmed.

Because America has said
it is wrong to starve
Children.
Hence a few trucks going in.

They can get foreign doctors in, but can't get aid I without Hamas robbing it for their fighters. That is why the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation was formed, 7 weeks ago,its almost ready to go and is designed to stop Hamas stealing the aid designed for the Palestinian people.

Great big border with Egypt as well for aid to get through, and also a vast sea, for ships to land, laden with aid..

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

"Hello, 'scuse me, where are the hostages?"

Spoiler:

There's nothing funny here. Making jokes is a bit twisted. But hardly unexpected.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

There's nothing funny here. Making jokes is a bit twisted. But hardly unexpected.

That you think I think it's funny says a lot more about you than it does about me Livia. I think it's ****ing horrendous.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

That you think I think it's funny says a lot more about you than it does about me Livia. I think it's ****ing horrendous.

Yet you try to make a joke. 'scuse me, where are the hostages? You're ****ing hilarious.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yet you try to make a joke. 'scuse me, where are the hostages? You're ****ing hilarious.

I'm not "making a joke" I'm pointing out how ludicrous-to-the-point-of-absurd it is for you to ask "why the hostages haven't been returned to Israel" when in all likelihood those hostages have been vaporized by Israeli airstrikes. I thought saying it so bluntly might be a bit much. But there you go, hope that helps. No jokes here: they've not returned Israel's hostages because Israel's relentless campaign of destruction has most likely killed them. You're right it's not very funny is it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I'm not "making a joke" I'm pointing out how ludicrous-to-the-point-of-absurd it is for you to ask "why the hostages haven't been returned to Israel" when in all likelihood those hostages have been vaporized by Israeli airstrikes. I thought saying it so bluntly might be a bit much. But there you go, hope that helps. No jokes here: they've not returned Israel's hostages because Israel's relentless campaign of destruction has most likely killed them. You're right it's not very funny is it.

Not dead at the hands of a hamas gun, or knife, no, it must be Israel that killed them, it's always Israel...heck, it was probably Israel who kidnapped them in the first place, yeah? Surely.


58 hostages remain, with an estimated 20 still alive....where are the 20???

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I'm not "making a joke" I'm pointing out how ludicrous-to-the-point-of-absurd it is for you to ask "why the hostages haven't been returned to Israel" when in all likelihood those hostages have been vaporized by Israeli airstrikes. I thought saying it so bluntly might be a bit much. But there you go, hope that helps. No jokes here: they've not returned Israel's hostages because Israel's relentless campaign of destruction has most likely killed them. You're right it's not very funny is it.

Yes, it's Israel's fault. Not Hamas's fault for kidnapping them in the first place. They freed a live hostage last week. Maybe you missed it. Had they released the hostages last year there would be a ceasefire now. But they didn't. Did they.

[bots]

By international law its up to the captor to keep prisoners of war safe from harm, but we won't mention that because it doesn't fit the narrative

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, it's Israel's fault. Not Hamas's fault for kidnapping them in the first place. They freed a live hostage last week. Maybe you missed it. Had they released the hostages last year there would be a ceasefire now. But they didn't. Did they.

Who said anything about blame? You asked the question "Why aren't they returning the rest of the hostages" and the uncomfortable answer is that most if not all that were still alive (because yes I'm sure some died at the hands of their captors) have probably been killed in the bombing strikes.

It's been insisted endlessly that Palestinian civilian deaths are justified because Hamas have been using them as human shields. Well... if one human shield is acceptable collateral, then so is another. Those hostages were in the way of necessary airstrikes against Hamas so they got blown up. That's how it works, no?

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by bots

By international law its up to the captor to keep prisoners of war safe from harm, but we won't mention that because it doesn't fit the narrative

When the cities they're in are being bulldozed to the ground? Absolute nonsense Bots.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Who said anything about blame? You asked the question "Why aren't they returning the rest of the hostages" and the uncomfortable answer is that most if not all that were still alive (because yes I'm sure some died at the hands of their captors) have probably been killed in the bombing strikes.

It's been insisted endlessly that Palestinian civilian deaths are justified because Hamas have been using them as human shields. Well... if one human shield is acceptable collateral, then so is another. Those hostages were in the way of necessary airstrikes against Hamas so they got blown up. That's how it works, no?

Good to know you still have all the answers.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Good to know you still have all the answers.

And good to know that your stock go-to retort remains the same when you have nothing else to say and no actual counterpoint.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

And good to know that your stock go-to retort remains the same when you have nothing else to say and no actual counterpoint.

What's the point of a discussion? Your mind is made up.

[bots]

It's very interesting that international law only applies to israel. Of the current conflicts, they are the only ones subject to international law

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by bots

It's very interesting that international law only applies to israel. Of the current conflicts, they are the only ones subject to international law

Bit of a catch-22 for Israel though because if they want Hamas/Palestine to be held to the international laws governing the conduct of states, they'd first have to recognise Palestine as a state. I don't see that happening any time soon.

[arista]

The reporter in Gaza stated
they need 600 Foor Trucks a day

Not Nine

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Bit of a catch-22 for Israel though because if they want Hamas/Palestine to be held to the international laws governing the conduct of states, they'd first have to recognise Palestine as a state. I don't see that happening any time soon.

That's not true.

Hamas committed war crimes in 7th October and continues to do so. But we only hear about war crime claims against Israel. Hamas's guilt us not dependant on what Israel thinks or does. Hamas's guilt does not depend on whether they are recognised by Israel as an independent state.

[thesheriff443]

I rarely post in this thread
Both sides are willing to kill and let be killed women and children so in My eyes they are both as bad as each other

[arista]

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[DemRed]

Perhaps those who have only followed MSM on Israel and Palestine, will now see what millions of us have witnessed on alternative media.
Now our government has withdrawn its support of Israel, the papers will be awash with all the things they've been asked to cover up.