[bots]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

DAILY WELCOME TO NEW PEOPLE ARRIVING TODAY!

i presume you are welcoming those sent back to you in france

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i presume you are welcoming those sent back to you in france

YAY! Open arms everywhere!

[Tom4784]

It's not immigrants that are pushing the country to breaking point, it's the rich that's bleeding it dry.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not immigrants that are pushing the country to breaking point, it's the rich that's bleeding it dry.

Absolutely right.

It's worrying really the lack of both compassion and understanding for asylum seekers in my view.

While I accept it's really bad that people are making money out of their desperation to travel in substandard boats or even a frightening dinghy.

Surely decent governments and those in power can find much easier and safer ways to not only remove that exploitation of asylum seekers.
Also to then set out on an agenda of supporting and protecting them.

Respecting them for the human beings they are and not treating them like they've no worth.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely right.

It's worrying really the lack of both compassion and understanding for asylum seekers in my view.

While I accept it's really bad that people are making money out of their desperation to travel in substandard boats or even a frightening dinghy.

Surely decent governments and those in power can find much easier and safer ways to not only remove that exploitation of asylum seekers.
Also to then set out on an agenda of supporting and protecting them.

Respecting them for the human beings they are and not treating them like they've no worth.

I'm sorry but they can all **** off back to where they come from until we can assure ourselves that there are no extremists amongst them like the Boston bombers or Manchester bombers..I'm afraid the risk of bloodshed of our own people just aint worth the risk of bringing them here.

Crime is already rising in the areas they re being housed.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm sorry but they can all **** off back to where they come from until we can assure ourselves that there are no extremists amongst them like the Boston bombers or Manchester bombers..I'm afraid the risk of bloodshed of our own people just aint worth the risk of bringing them here.

Crime is already rising in the areas they re being housed.

This post is everything I disagree with as to the tone, inferences and even pre conceived judgements of attitude from any in this Nation, towards those hopefully seeking security and a new hope and life.
It represents, possibly only in my view, the worst of thinking.

That's all I'm going to say.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This post is everything I disagree with as to the tone, inferences and even pre conceived judgements of attitude from any in this Nation, towards those hopefully seeking security and a new hope and life.
It represents, possibly only in my view, the worst of thinking.

That's all I'm going to say.

And it's the burying the head in the sand attitude that has already allowed the bloodshed in this and other countries from immigrants hell bent on terror, I'm sorry but the risks of it happening again far out way my concern for these free loaders.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm sorry but they can all **** off back to where they come from until we can assure ourselves that there are no extremists amongst them like the Boston bombers or Manchester bombers..I'm afraid the risk of bloodshed of our own people just aint worth the risk of bringing them here.

Crime is already rising in the areas they re being housed.

the xenophobia stench in this post

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not immigrants that are pushing the country to breaking point, it's the rich that's bleeding it dry.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not immigrants that are pushing the country to breaking point, it's the rich that's bleeding it dry.

yup Britain still believing they are an empire is their biggest mistake, something which aren't anymore

can easily understand why a country like Australia has changed its national anthem, and also one country which easily can be seen as to having decent border/custom protocols (which i see in their reality show Border Security)


but back on topic, immigrants should be allowed to live in UK if they want to, be allowed to work in UK if they want to, which is also why brexit is wrong, it ruins lives of foreigners whom already have worked longer period of time in UK, basically built their lives up, children going to schools too in UK, a terrifying thought if brexit ruins all of that

[Aaliyah]

Let them in. Let them in!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

Let them in. Let them in!

Would you apply that at airports as well, just scrap passport checkpoint?

[Aaliyah]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Would you apply that at airports as well, just scrap passport checkpoint?

YES

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

YES

That would be fun, bring it

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That would be fun, bring it

#citizenoftheworld in your Insta bio?

[Captain.Remy]

Good morning and welcome to newcomers! We love to see it!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Good morning and welcome to newcomers! We love to see it!

.....

[Kizzy]

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/racist-a...ure-war-581695

[Ammi]

...just kind of connected to that story, Kizzy...well It’s all connected in that, how asylum seekers are often portrayed in the media in a way that can cause resentment ...on a neutral site which just gives fiscal information, the cost of an ‘immigrant’ is something that can’t be accurately assessed because each individual would be different...are they working, do they have a skill, is schooling required/a family...and etc, etc, there is no single ‘correct’ answer...anyway though...most studies suggest that the fiscal impact of immigration in the UK is relatively small....(amounting to less than 1% of the country's overall Gross Domestic Product...)...


...in contrast, a DM article...?...would tell us that immigration costs the U.K. Ł17billion every year...(...which might still amount to less than 1%, I’m not sure...)...but it’s a much more negatively provocative way of saying...and that’s the vein with much of the media of how we’re led with immigration...that an immigrant ‘would consume far more in public services and benefits than they pay in taxes.‘...that they’re provided with health, education, policing, roads and other services, when many immigrants come to seek work and are working contributors to all of these things...anyways, the media article slant of ‘taking back control of our borders..’...is designed to create resentment, which then can lead to prejudices...

[bots]

there is no problem with immigration, but it must be done legally, i would have thought that was obvious

[Ammi]

...it really isn’t up to us to say or speculate what’s legal because we just don’t know, it’s all so media led and slanted...with the help of Farage, type people, obviously...for those who are not granted stay in the U.K., then they won’t be allowed to...but if they are, that means they were deemed legally entitled to...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there is no problem with immigration, but it must be done legally, i would have thought that was obvious

No problem with it either, given I am one myself but it has to be managed properly

Lining traffickers pockets is not the way

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there is no problem with immigration, but it must be done legally, i would have thought that was obvious

Using the term ‘illegal’ in relation to immigration implies a distinction between people, neatly divided between those lawfully in the country and those not. Those using it never seem to ask themselves whether the distinction exists in practice or principle.

If they were to attempt in good conscience an answer, they would need to confront several difficulties. Among people who enter the country without permission or stay longer than permitted, are many that cannot be properly labelled with 'wrongdoing'. Refugees, for example, must get to the UK before they can seek asylum. Many of them are compelled to enter without permission – and international human rights law entitles them to do so. This is necessary to guarantee their right to safety. There is no wrongdoing in a refugee crossing a border to claim asylum.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/blogs/yes...gal-immigrants

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Using the term ‘illegal’ in relation to immigration implies a distinction between people, neatly divided between those lawfully in the country and those not. Those using it never seem to ask themselves whether the distinction exists in practice or principle.

If they were to attempt in good conscience an answer, they would need to confront several difficulties. Among people who enter the country without permission or stay longer than permitted, are many that cannot be properly labelled with 'wrongdoing'. Refugees, for example, must get to the UK before they can seek asylum. Many of them are compelled to enter without permission – and international human rights law entitles them to do so. This is necessary to guarantee their right to safety. There is no wrongdoing in a refugee crossing a border to claim asylum.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/blogs/yes...gal-immigrants

that's just plain wrong. The people coming over from france are in a safe country. They can go through the proper procedures to apply to come to the uk, but they don't, they get in a boat because they know they are not asylum seekers and try to get here illegally. I don't want undocumented people who could be criminals or terrorist entering the uk, and I will support all efforts to stop it happening

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's just plain wrong. The people coming over from france are in a safe country. They can go through the proper procedures to apply to come to the uk, but they don't, they get in a boat because they know they are not asylum seekers and try to get here illegally. I don't want undocumented people who could be criminals or terrorist entering the uk, and I will support all efforts to stop it happening

It might seem wrong to you but that doesn't make it illegal. Undocumented people? Do you think when people arrive here legally they have terrorist printed on their passport.
Or they have just wandered out of the wilderness to cross the channel and there's no way to verify who they are?

They are asylum seekers even if they pass through other countries borders to get here.
To criminalise them for that is wrong under international law, which is why they are held and processed. The conditions they are held in are wrong, and are more likely to be classed as illegal.