[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Out of curiosity, why don't Liverpool spend more, i mean with a few extra players you could seriously compete against City, and in Europe?!

Owners.

It's as simple as that.

FFP allows owners to pay for stadium improvements without any punishment. FSG have taken loans out to increase the stadium capacity (which only increases their value of the club for a sale), and made the club pay the loans back, so we've had around £400m taken out of our transfer budget over last 5-8 years to pay for a bigger stadium for the owners eventual sale price.

They also believed they FFP was stricter than it was, so they thought top clubs would only have about £50m to spend every season.

Here''s the real kicker - without coutinho being sold, we would never have bought VVD and Allisson, so would never have won anything. So even though they've seen how great we can be with a bit of investment, they don't care, and have no interest in spending anything.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Owners.

It's as simple as that.

FFP allows owners to pay for stadium improvements without any punishment. FSG have taken loans out to increase the stadium capacity (which only increases their value of the club for a sale), and made the club pay the loans back, so we've had around £400m taken out of our transfer budget over last 5-8 years to pay for a bigger stadium for the owners eventual sale price.

They also believed they FFP was stricter than it was, so they thought top clubs would only have about £50m to spend every season.

Here''s the real kicker - without coutinho being sold, we would never have bought VVD and Allisson, so would never have won anything. So even though they've seen how great we can be with a bit of investment, they don't care, and have no interest in spending anything.

So, they put 20% in success, 80% in profit? Ish?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

So, they put 20% in success, 80% in profit? Ish?

I think top 4 every season is more than enough for them. This was easily manageable on a minimal budget for a club our size with klopp in charge, but now Newcastle have come to the party, and Arsenal are back, it's looking like we'll be a top 6 club rather than a top 4 one until they fcuk off, and even then, I expect them to sell to their US friends, who will put the cost of the club back on us to pay for, like Hicks and Gillette, and the glazers, which will screw us even further into the dirt, and will leave us mid table.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think top 4 every season is more than enough for them. This was easily manageable on a minimal budget for a club our size with klopp in charge, but now Newcastle have come to the party, and Arsenal are back, it's looking like we'll be a top 6 club rather than a top 4 one until they fcuk off, and even then, I expect them to sell to their US friends, who will put the cost of the club back on us to pay for, like Hicks and Gillette, and the glazers, which will screw us even further into the dirt, and will leave us mid table.

A team we've all failed to mention for top 4 contenders here is Brighton. Seriously impressive team all things considered.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Swan

Out of curiosity, why don't Liverpool spend more, i mean with a few extra players you could seriously compete against City, and in Europe?!

A number of things but had out contracts with crazy bonuses to everyone that made us have the highest wage bill and Klopp refusing to sell players who were not good enough hasn't helped, and the club overspent on the years before Klopp on players nowhere near good enough that we had to sell for crazy losses.

Also Americans expect money back so will always limit what they spend to maximise profits and I also belive FSG have way to many sports teams aswell as planning to buy more to even have enough money for their team which is why a sale is vital but I belive they are waiting to get their maximum profit although John Henry isn't getting any younger and I cant see him wanting to keep the team for much longer so I kinda feel they will sell when Klopp leaves in 3 years so they can let new owners deal with the next steps for the club.

Fun fact though we were meant to be what City became but our greedy former owners pulled the plug on a Dubai takeover after agreeing to it, they also did the same when China came calling but Chinese owners have a terrible track record

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Denver

A number of things but had out contracts with crazy bonuses to everyone that made us have the highest wage bill and Klopp refusing to sell players who were not good enough hasn't helped, and the club overspent on the years before Klopp on players nowhere near good enough that we had to sell for crazy losses.

Also Americans expect money back so will always limit what they spend to maximise profits and I also belive FSG have way to many sports teams aswell as planning to buy more to even have enough money for their team which is why a sale is vital but I belive they are waiting to get their maximum profit although John Henry isn't getting any younger and I cant see him wanting to keep the team for much longer so I kinda feel they will sell when Klopp leaves in 3 years so they can let new owners deal with the next steps for the club.

Fun fact though we were meant to be what City became but our greedy former owners pulled the plug on a Dubai takeover after agreeing to it, they also did the same when China came calling but Chinese owners have a terrible track record

Klopp has been there 7 years. Are you suggesting, that signing Andy Carroll is now impacting the available funds? Nonsense.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Klopp has been there 7 years. Are you suggesting, that signing Andy Carroll is now impacting the available funds? Nonsense.

They are americans, once they start losing money they will reign in the spending as much as possible no matter what changes

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Denver

They are americans, once they start losing money they will reign in the spending as much as possible no matter what changes

Right, so that isn't a reply to the question I asked you. Are you saying that signing Andy Carroll is the reason we can't now compete financially with Villa?

because that's insane. The most obvious answer is that FSG have always been terrible owners, and I haven't liked them from day one, because I knew exactly what they are.

Don't invest in the squad when we were on top, because CL money was rolling in.
Now can't invest in the squad because we don't have CL.

These ***** will do to the same managed decline on the club, as thatcher did on the city.

[bots]

Southampton were the original variant of brighton and look where they are now.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Southampton were the original variant of brighton and look where they are now.

only smashing Plymouth in the "no one cares about you south coast ponces derby 2-1"

think on bots

think on..

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

only smashing Plymouth in the "no one cares about you south coast ponces derby 2-1"

think on bots

think on..

Tbh I'm nervous about us playing Plymouth.

The fact that they only narrowly lost to Southampton is one of the main reasons why I'm nervous.

[Father Chris Mouse]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Might be a threat for 2 years, but will eventually sell enough good players that they don't replace well enough and will drop. I think they'll be back in the football league within a decade.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Southampton were the original variant of brighton and look where they are now.

Nah, Brighton built the Amex and haven't looked back since. They sell good players, but carry on producing quality. What would Mitoma, March and Encsio be worth???

And i see Pedro coming good.

They have funds now too, mostly thanks to Chelsea being gung ho with signings. I honestly think they'll be fine.

[In the Drunk Tank]

[In the Drunk Tank]

Just sold my car, to bet on Paqueta

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Just sold my car, to bet on Paqueta

[In the Drunk Tank]

Well that's well and truly made up for the Lionesses

[Denver]

Thiugh I really wouldn't be surprised to see Liberty Media take a stake in us especially when them and FSG are besties

[Zizu]

Interesting

Jota is already set to leave Al-Ittihad, just one month after moving to Saudi Arabia!

No additional information has been given on the reason for his departure.


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[bots]

Gunners defender Jurrien Timber suffered a serious knee injury last weekend on his Premier League debut and will be out for around seven months.

[bots]

brighton have europe this season and they don't have the squad depth to cope, so, they will be lucky to finish in the top 10

[bots]

Does anyone know the reasoning for everton fans booing DCL after he had to come off with concussion ? It's a bit of a weird way for fans to behave

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Does anyone know the reasoning for everton fans booing DCL after he had to come off with concussion ? It's a bit of a weird way for fans to behave

I believe the reason is that it's Everton.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Does anyone know the reasoning for everton fans booing DCL after he had to come off with concussion ? It's a bit of a weird way for fans to behave

i guess they are fed up with him rivaling Darren Anderton

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Despite spunking £164,000,000 already this summer Man U are pish

United have faced 40 shots in 2 games, only Bournemouth (42) have faced more

Last season United won just 6 points away against prem top 12

Across 20 away matched United goal diff was -13

Since TH took over United have lost 9 away games and won just 8

[bots]

the united midfield are not operating as a unit, thats why spurs and wolves cut through them.