[user104658]

I mean, I'm not sure that "better than what we've had since" is exactly an endorsement.

"Well no this isn't ice cream... but at least it isn't literally a chunk of sh*t on a stick!"

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean, I'm not sure that "better than what we've had since" is exactly an endorsement.

"Well no this isn't ice cream... but at least it isn't literally a chunk of sh*t on a stick!"

it has to be remembered the situation they inherited from labour, complete with the note that there was no money left. That really puts a damper on pleasing the people with lots of jelly and donuts.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it has to be remembered the situation they inherited from labour, complete with the note that there was no money left. That really puts a damper on pleasing the people with lots of jelly and donuts.

I wasn't a fan of that version of labour, but it was the financial collapse of 2008 that was the biggest cause, not labour themselves. The tories then made that worse with the cruelness of indefinite austerity.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it has to be remembered the situation they inherited from labour, complete with the note that there was no money left. That really puts a damper on pleasing the people with lots of jelly and donuts.

But the idea that the global recession that was occurring at that time was "Labour's doing" is and always has been ridiculous...

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But the idea that the global recession that was occurring at that time was "Labour's doing" is and always has been ridiculous...

Yet that's the narrative the Tories fall back onto each and every time

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But the idea that the global recession that was occurring at that time was "Labour's doing" is and always has been ridiculous...

what "global recession"?

in china, russia, malta peru?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Yet that's the narrative the Tories fall back onto each and every time

Tories resorting to the political equivalent of Linda Nolan blaming Jim for everything?

[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what "global recession"?



in china, russia, malta peru?

OK then the Pan-European / North American recession, if we're being pedantic. The point stands that it wasn't "caused by Labour" and would have occurred no matter who was in power in the UK at the time, or in the lead up.

[MTVN]

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[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

OK then the Pan-European / North American recession, if we're being pedantic. The point stands that it wasn't "caused by Labour" and would have occurred no matter who was in power in the UK at the time, or in the lead up.

labour didnt help by selling off all the countries assets prior to the fall. Gold reserves ... all sold .... government estates ... all sold .... telecoms companies, all ****ed purchasing the airwaves from the labour government

If you are running on empty, its gonna hurt when times are tough, and that was entirely labours fault.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

labour didnt help by selling off all the countries assets prior to the fall. Gold reserves ... all sold .... government estates ... all sold .... telecoms companies, all ****ed purchasing the airwaves from the labour government



If you are running on empty, its gonna hurt when times are tough, and that was entirely labours fault.

It might have slightly eased the landing but the fact is, any developed economy with significant links to the United States was sucked into that recession and there was literally no way for the UK, of all places, to avoid that. Better management might have shaved 0.5-1% off of the percentage figure but it would still have been recession... And also... We call it "the Labour trend" of selling off assets, but really it was the neoliberal trend sparked by Thatcher that set us off down that path, and David Cameron continued down it well past 2009 as well. Plenty of national assets down the drain since the Tories came back into power .

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

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[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

OK then the Pan-European / North American recession, if we're being pedantic. The point stands that it wasn't "caused by Labour" and would have occurred no matter who was in power in the UK at the time, or in the lead up.

Completely right, TS. But we can't allow facts to get in the way of political ****-stirring can we

[joeysteele]

The financial crash may well have been worse had the Conservatives been in power at the time.

Because under David Cameron, the Conservatives attacked Labour for regulating the Banks too much.
They wanted the Banks regulated less.

A major mess was going to be in place no matter who was in power at the time.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

[arista]

[bots]

She has tried to stop us leaving without a deal which isn't being a snake

[arista]

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

No surprises at all there


The General Election will be similar carnage if we don't leave, as there is no remain party as such, the independents missed a trick they should have called themselves the No Brexit Party

[arista]

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No surprises at all there


The General Election will be similar carnage if we don't leave, as there is no remain party as such, the independents missed a trick they should have called themselves the No Brexit Party

Green are a remain party

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Green are a remain party

I dont see remainers voting for them in the Euros do you?