Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

View Poll Results: Do you want Scotland to be independent?
Yes 21 41.18%
Yes
21 41.18%
No 30 58.82%
No
30 58.82%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 13-04-2014, 09:25 PM #1
lostalex's Avatar
lostalex lostalex is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 18,029


lostalex lostalex is offline
Senior Member
lostalex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 18,029


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
I think you are likely still right as to that lostalex and I would have thought that myself a few weeks ago.

However even some of my family who live in Scotland and who will vote have been more impressed with Alex Salmond than say Alistair Darling and co.
I just feel that no matter what, those who want independence will definaitely go out and vote for it.
Those who would prefer to remain in the UK,I fear a good number may not likely bother to go out and vote and the result could see Scotland sleepwalking out of the UK.

I used to think the vote would be at least 60% voting to stay and 40% wanting independence.
I think now, it is likely a great deal closer than that.

However I do hope you are right and Scotland votes to stay in the UK in this referendum.

Well you can like alex salmond, and support the SNP without voting yes. I don't think the SNP will be destroyed by this even if majority vote no. They can still have the SNP, and be part of the UK.

The truth is, most people are scared of change, that's why incumbents usually win. I don't think the majority of Scots want anything to change so drastically. People think they want change, but when it comes down to it, most really don't, and most prefer the status quo.
__________________
Don't be afraid to be weak.

Last edited by lostalex; 13-04-2014 at 09:26 PM.
lostalex is offline  
Old 13-04-2014, 11:21 PM #2
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,816

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,816

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex View Post
Well you can like alex salmond, and support the SNP without voting yes. I don't think the SNP will be destroyed by this even if majority vote no. They can still have the SNP, and be part of the UK.

The truth is, most people are scared of change, that's why incumbents usually win. I don't think the majority of Scots want anything to change so drastically. People think they want change, but when it comes down to it, most really don't, and most prefer the status quo.
I agree with all that, I really hope that is the case and that is what comes about as to the result in the referendum too.

I agree, no matter what may 'seem' to be the possible case now,as you point out when it comes down to it and actually going for change,most prefer the way things are.

Good post lostalex, you have helped erase doubts I was developing as to the result of this referendum.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 14-04-2014, 08:20 AM #3
Nedusa's Avatar
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
Nedusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex View Post
We all know Scotland ain't going anywhere. It's just not going to happen.
Unfortunately , I have to agree also. Scotland is going nowhere
__________________
Nedusa is offline  
Old 18-04-2014, 01:01 AM #4
Lee.'s Avatar
Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
Lee.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedusa View Post
Unfortunately , I have to agree also. Scotland is going nowhere
Unfortunately for who?
__________________
http://i.imgur.com/8thdnzq.jpg
Lee. is offline  
Old 13-04-2014, 11:00 PM #5
Z's Avatar
Z Z is offline
Z
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Z Z is offline
Z
Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Default

^That's exactly right Alex, and I think that's because this wasn't a grassroots movement from the Scottish people, it's a political agenda being pushed upon a population who didn't really have an opinion on the idea. We're not an oppressed people so there's no great desire to be independent from the UK really, just a lot of ifs, buts and maybes that can be painted as appealing or unappealing by the two different political ends of the spectrum but your average Scottish person's probably not thinking about it on a daily basis, and I think that's why it will fail.
Z is offline  
Old 14-04-2014, 01:45 PM #6
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
Default

Josy
if Scotland Voted Yes and became a nation
would you leave?
arista is offline  
Old 14-04-2014, 01:48 PM #7
michael21 michael21 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: In my big house
Posts: 13,901


michael21 michael21 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: In my big house
Posts: 13,901


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Josy
if Scotland Voted Yes and became a nation
would you leave?
no she will become queen Josy
michael21 is offline  
Old 01-05-2014, 06:29 PM #8
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
Default

Ch4newsHD live in Glasgow

Live Debate On now
arista is offline  
Old 09-06-2014, 07:40 PM #9
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
Default



This Top Scottish SkyNewsHD Reporter
is a gem
taking a Couch all over the Scottish nation
to get everyones Views

Video on here
http://news.sky.com/story/1278735/sc...to-the-unknown


100 Days to the Vote

All to play for

So many must pick a side

Last edited by arista; 09-06-2014 at 07:41 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 03:07 PM #10
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
Default

Well done JK Rowling giving
a Million Pounds to the Yes to Scotland.

On the Daily Politics
today we were told of the internet abuse she then got
sexual and C word.

Typical of the UK backers of the Together ponces






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ependence.html

Last edited by arista; 15-06-2014 at 03:11 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 03:19 PM #11
andybigbro's Avatar
andybigbro andybigbro is offline
BB Sees All 👀
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Posts: 29,805

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Sam
BB2024: Emma


andybigbro andybigbro is offline
BB Sees All 👀
andybigbro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Posts: 29,805

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Sam
BB2024: Emma


Default

#bettertogether
__________________




Thanks to Littlegreen for my lovely sig
andybigbro is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 06:02 PM #12
Z's Avatar
Z Z is offline
Z
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Z Z is offline
Z
Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Default

Her statement was quite compelling and sums up my feelings on the matter.
Z is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 06:16 PM #13
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z View Post
Her statement was quite compelling and sums up my feelings on the matter.

So you want Scotland Free
now


Well done Z
arista is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 07:07 PM #14
Z's Avatar
Z Z is offline
Z
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Z Z is offline
Z
Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
So you want Scotland Free
now


Well done Z
I suggest you read what JK Rowling actually said, arista.
Z is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 07:36 PM #15
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,683
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z View Post
I suggest you read what JK Rowling actually said, arista.

I have
she wants Scotland Free from England Control
arista is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 07:50 PM #16
Z's Avatar
Z Z is offline
Z
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Z Z is offline
Z
Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Default

That's a fraction of what she said and a complete contradiction of the overall message she was expressing.
Z is offline  
Old 15-06-2014, 08:13 PM #17
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Where is the statement?
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Old 16-06-2014, 09:00 AM #18
Nedusa's Avatar
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
Nedusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Default

With many ex PM's and Cabinet Ministers hailing from Scotland, who is say Scotland isn't already in control of the United Kingdom.

Does Scotland make it's students pay student loans back no it does not, does it make Scottish people pay for keeping their elderly relatives in care homes, no it does not. Does it make scottish people pay prescription charges, no it does not.

Seems like Scotland is in control and is already getting a better deal than vast numbers of English people.
__________________
Nedusa is offline  
Old 16-06-2014, 03:01 PM #19
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,816

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,816

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedusa View Post
With many ex PM's and Cabinet Ministers hailing from Scotland, who is say Scotland isn't already in control of the United Kingdom.

Does Scotland make it's students pay student loans back no it does not, does it make Scottish people pay for keeping their elderly relatives in care homes, no it does not. Does it make scottish people pay prescription charges, no it does not.

Seems like Scotland is in control and is already getting a better deal than vast numbers of English people.
I do have to say that in my view Alex Salmond and his SNP administration has been really good for the Scotland.
Should the vote be for independence in September, I feel sure the Scots will as Alex Salmond said, be able to at last get only the Govt. it voted for and although I would be sad to see the break up of any part of the UK,I think the Scots would be as well served if not better served by the politicians left there.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 23-07-2014, 10:39 PM #20
coffee's Avatar
coffee coffee is offline
got dat coffee sh*tz
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 944

Favourites (more):
CBB20: Trisha Paytas
BB18: Isabelle
coffee coffee is offline
got dat coffee sh*tz
coffee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 944

Favourites (more):
CBB20: Trisha Paytas
BB18: Isabelle
Default Scottish independance

Not sure if there is a thread? But to all you Scottish people on here what will you be voting on September 18th?
__________________
Pandora boxx is sh!t

coffee is offline  
Old 23-07-2014, 10:39 PM #21
Firewire's Avatar
Firewire Firewire is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 34,359

Favourites:
BBUSA22: Janelle


Firewire Firewire is offline
Senior Member
Firewire's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 34,359

Favourites:
BBUSA22: Janelle


Default

there's a thread somewhere
Firewire is offline  
Old 23-07-2014, 10:40 PM #22
Firewire's Avatar
Firewire Firewire is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 34,359

Favourites:
BBUSA22: Janelle


Firewire Firewire is offline
Senior Member
Firewire's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 34,359

Favourites:
BBUSA22: Janelle


Default

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=188488
Firewire is offline  
Old 23-07-2014, 10:40 PM #23
coffee's Avatar
coffee coffee is offline
got dat coffee sh*tz
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 944

Favourites (more):
CBB20: Trisha Paytas
BB18: Isabelle
coffee coffee is offline
got dat coffee sh*tz
coffee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 944

Favourites (more):
CBB20: Trisha Paytas
BB18: Isabelle
Default

Well I spelled independence wrong so I'm feeling pretty ashamed anyway.
__________________
Pandora boxx is sh!t

coffee is offline  
Old 23-07-2014, 11:37 PM #24
the truth the truth is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 14,477
the truth the truth is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 14,477
Default

the scots are nicer than us english, but im unsure they can afford to go alone. if they can good luck to them
the truth is offline  
Old 24-07-2014, 09:27 AM #25
Livia's Avatar
Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 35,699


Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
Livia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 35,699


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by the truth View Post
the scots are nicer than us english, but im unsure they can afford to go alone. if they can good luck to them
People are pretty much people wherever you go. No one's all good, or all bad. Like I keep saying to you.
__________________
If I'm not responding, it's because I'm ignoring their nonsense.
Livia is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
2015, independance, republic, scotland, scotland decides, scottish


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:58 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts