[Mystic Mock]

The thing is, is if your going to have stuff like Most Loved and vote on it and don't mind taking part, then the same courtesy should be shown towards The Razzies.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

But no one has to give reasons for this they just pick who they want to vote for

And it's light-hearted the only people who have gone too far with it has been Brother Leon and Locke

Take this in advance

[MTVN]

Nobody's even said they're opting out yet and anyway I don't see why it's such a major disaster if one or two people do

[Kizzy]

Do you ever wish you hadn't said anything?....

[Kate!]

Lucas, with due respect, that's very rude what you said.

Plus last year things went way way too far and got too personal, and I don't mean in regard to myself either

That's my opinion, its how I feel, and to say its not worth holding because an opt out option may be put in place just indicates to me that it is in fact all about being able to have a go at those who are the most sensitive and will get upset.

My god..I take loads of stick from the Turtle, Marc and a few others, so its not that I can't take banter fgs. Here's an idea, Let's do it, but not anonymously. Oh no, people won't do it then though will they?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Nobody's even said they're opting out yet and anyway I don't see why it's such a major disaster if one or two people do

My offence comes from the fact that this is being discussed behind my back, and that moderators are announcing the rules of my game without consulting me first

As Jarrod quite rightly pointed out, it's a matter of respect

That said, I am of the opinion that there shouldn't be an opt-out list, for the following reasons (which I messaged to James earlier):

- As a whole the Razzies are a lot more light-hearted than Controversy/Most Hated Member, and most if not all of the individual awards aren't as insulting
- In the four years I've ran the Razzies so far there's only been one member that's taken extreme offence (and that member had voted for the awards so clearly they knew what they were about)
- There isn't an opt-out list for the real life Razzie Awards
- An opt-out list would undermine the Razzies - if a significant amount of members opted out there would be no point in running it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Lucas, with due respect, that's very rude what you said.

Plus last year things went way way too far and got too personal, and I don't mean in regard to myself either

That's my opinion, its how I feel, and to say its not worth holding because an opt out option may be put in place just indicates to me that it is in fact all about being able to have a go at those who are the most sensitive and will get upset.

My god..I take loads of stick from the Turtle, Marc and a few others, so its not that I can't take banter fgs. Here's an idea, Let's do it, but not anonymously. Oh no, people won't do it then though will they?

I can't speak for all but for me it's just a laugh and should not be taken seriously.

Also if your gonna accept your positives then you should also accept your negatives being pointed out imo, and that's not just aimed at you *Kate*.

[InOne]

And with this opt-out thing it starts a chain. Once one does it a few start doing it.

[Brother Leon]

Quick question


Can we discuss who we nominated in here, or is going to be deemed "baiting"?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Do you ever wish you hadn't said anything?....

Don't worry, I think this debate would have happened eventually

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

People need to stop being so ****ing sensitive and get a grip of themselves if they get upset over something as trivial as this

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

The thing is, is if your going to have stuff like Most Loved and vote on it and don't mind taking part, then the same courtesy should be shown towards The Razzies.

[Josy]

Just wanted to point out, the mods weren't discussing it.

[Black Dagger]

I was just giving my verdict on something anyway...

I had my fair of **** in the Razzies and laughed it off, it's not like what's said on here is going to make you want to jump off a tall building, just laugh at it, it'll make the forum lively for a couple of days and then we move on..

[Mystic Mock]

We know Josy don't worry lol.

[Marsh.]

Hang on, Most Loved noms are all posted on the forum aren't they?

So why are these anonymous but those other aren't?

[Mystic Mock]

Members votes still stay anonymous I think.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Do you ever wish you hadn't said anything?....

Quite a common feeling on this forum.

[MTVN]

Yeah I didn't realise it was happening either for what it's worth, I don't think it's that big a deal though, if it is all light hearted then no real need to be stringent in insisting everyone has to take part IMO, and I know the vast majority just have a laugh with it but there normally arguments too, the threads don't get locked for no reason and just off the top of my head I know that one member ended up getting a month ban during it last year

Anyway I have no real strong feelings either way, but I really can't see any more than one or two opting out in any case

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Hang on, Most Loved noms are all posted on the forum aren't they?

So why are these anonymous but those other aren't?

No they're not, some people just choose to reveal their votes at the end

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

No they're not, some people just choose to reveal their votes at the end

Ah right, I get it.

[Kate!]

Exactly Marsh, exactly.

Also Mock, I do accept my negatives, I take the Piss out of myself on here and accept it in good spirits from others WHEN its meant in good spirits. However anonymous attacks aren't acceptable. Why should it be anonymous. If i vote/voted on this I would be more than happy to put my name to everything I said.



For the record, I won't opt out, but I will complain if it goes too far and I don't really care what anyone thinks about that. Keep it light hearted. There will be no problem.

[Mystic Mock]

Oh I agree it should stay light hearted, but anyone that causes trouble should banned for the night imo.

[Marsh.]

What exactly happened last year? Were there cruel awards or something?

Where's the list of winners?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Matt

Don't worry, I think this debate would have happened eventually

Cheers matt, you're cool
So are you going to drop the anonymity?

[Benjamin]

Just to throw my opinion in (again). I don't mind the awards going ahead, nor will I opt out, I'm not a complete fun sponge. But if people don't want to be included they shouldn't have to be.