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Old 21-10-2018, 05:08 PM #1
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The episode itself was fine, but what was with the crap popsong they played toward the end, and then over the credits? The new composer sucks, I can't even remember any of the episodes' scores...
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The episode itself was fine, but what was with the crap popsong they played toward the end, and then over the credits? The new composer sucks, I can't even remember any of the episodes' scores...
I think the new composer is fine, I got kinda sick of all the repeating motifs by the end of Murray Gold's run as composer.

So glad they managed to do this episode well, was pretty worried about it before hand.
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I actually learnt so much that episode. I had no idea Rosa knew MLK, I didn’t know she was married to a white man and I didn’t have a clue that she was still around in 1999 to receive that award
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I actually learnt so much that episode. I had no idea Rosa knew MLK, I didn’t know she was married to a white man and I didn’t have a clue that she was still around in 1999 to receive that award
You should read up on Claudette Colvin, the actual first black woman to refuse to give her seat up on the bus, but the Civil Rights Movement didn't want to use her as a face of the movement due to her being a pregnant teen (and some people say because her skin was much darker than Rosa's)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudette_Colvin

She's still alive in 2018!
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You should read up on Claudette Colvin, the actual first black woman to refuse to give her seat up on the bus, but the Civil Rights Movement didn't want to use her as a face of the movement due to her being a pregnant teen (and some people say because her skin was much darker than Rosa's)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudette_Colvin

She's still alive in 2018!
Wow what a story. Terrifying to think that it really wasn’t all that long ago and we still have a way to go.
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The episode itself was fine, but what was with the crap popsong they played toward the end, and then over the credits? The new composer sucks, I can't even remember any of the episodes' scores...
The crap pop song, I'm led to believe, is one of the songs used by the Black Lives Matter campaign.
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The crap pop song, I'm led to believe, is one of the songs used by the Black Lives Matter campaign.
Doesn't make it any less crap or out of place in a Doctor Who episode.

She was an associate of Dr King, who preached for nonviolence, so they'd probably both be against BLM anyway.
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Doesn't make it any less crap or out of place in a Doctor Who episode.

She was an associate of Dr King, who preached for nonviolence, so they'd probably both be against BLM anyway.
BLM isn't violent, as ever it's the white people on Fox News that focus on extremes to tar a whole movement because they are scared of black people. Most BLM protests are peaceful and you don't hear of them because the kind of media that often covers them want the protest to erupt into violence so they can do their 'look at these violent black people' sctick
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Doesn't make it any less crap or out of place in a Doctor Who episode.
It wasn't out of place, it was directly linked to the subject matter of the episode.

"Out of place in Doctor Who" is a meaningless statement as its a show that completely changes its tone, genre and style from one week to the next.

I, for one, am glad the show has remembered it's not just about space travel and fighting, but also about time travel. So getting an episode set in the past with the sci-fi/alien aspect toned right down is recapturing an aspect of Doctor Who we haven't seen in a while IMO.
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Bloody hell at the P word at 7:15

That was amazing though. So brave. I am loving this series so far.
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I imagine some uncomfortable white people will write to Ofcom over it, but the reality is this episode is really educational and informative, people need to be woke and this was a cute way of doing it
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Wow. That episode has well and truly brought a tear to my eye. Rosa was and is a champion for civil and human rights. May she rest in peace.
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I loved that episode. Not many Doctor Who stories have made me cry I loved the music actually. I don't mind if I feel it's justified and suits the scene.
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That episide was incredible, one of my favourite ever, but they did NOT just play 'Rise Up' over one of the most incredible and inspirational moments in history
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All these mentions of Grace... producers you know what to do, bring ha back
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Repeats the tired phrase of 'The Doctor owns a time machine so she could just to back in time and save ha' whilst preparing for the flood of sci-fi nerds to tell me that its not that easy and changing history is dangerous
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Repeats the tired phrase of 'The Doctor owns a time machine so she could just to back in time and save ha' whilst preparing for the flood of sci-fi nerds to tell me that its not that easy and changing history is dangerous
Not dangerous, it just can't be done.

But that's two villains we've had out of three episodes vanish/teleport elsewhere.

An arc is forming.
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I'm only halfway through the ep but Ryan getting off the bus at nightime on his own to stalk Rosa is pretty dumb And the fact that not one of them thought it would be a bad idea either I can't tell if his character is supposed to be stupid or if it's just the way the actor is playing him
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Apparently the episode was rated the lowest out of any New Who episodes on IMDB...

...before the episode aired.

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The episode was neat, probably my favourite of the season thus far, but I feel like Rosa's story was outshadowed slightly by the ridiculousness of the alien plotline? I would have liked to see Rosa playing a bigger role to better portray how sad it was to live in such horrid conditions.

I do think the writing this series has been fairly weak, though, which is a shame. The first two episodes were fairly forgettable in the grand scheme of things.

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The episode was neat, probably my favourite of the season thus far, but I feel like Rosa's story was outshadowed slightly by the ridiculousness of the alien plotline? I would have liked to see Rosa playing a bigger role to better portray how sad it was to live in such horrid conditions.

I do think the writing this series has been fairly weak, though, which is a shame.
Im just glad that their plot wasnt that Rosa Parks was an alien sent from a planet 300 galaxies away to stop racism and that the episode followed a fairly ... realistic approach (besides the racist alien guy).
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That racist alien can piss on me tbh
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The episode was a great educational piece and hopefully many many young children and adults will learn from it. It was so uncomfortable in places but shamefully true to life.

Great episode
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I'm watching it now and it's good but like some of the dialogue is really clumsy and awkward? Idk maybe it's just me
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