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Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly. The only logical explanation that he carried on doing what he was doing is because he had a compulsion that he needed to satisfy that couldn't have witnesses

Well this is all that makes sense to me, but there may well be something I am missing.

Beso · 08-03-2019, 09:10 AM

He went from abusing healthy boys until he got found out then to me it looks like he went for sick boys who perhaps relied on his money more so may have stayed quiet...it didn't work..

Crimson Dynamo · 08-03-2019, 09:24 AM

"‘The Simpsons’ pull Michael Jackson episode amid sex abuse allegations"

source: lots of news media

bots · 08-03-2019, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"‘The Simpsons’ pull Michael Jackson episode amid sex abuse allegations"

source: lots of news media

i bet Southpark don't pull their episode

user104658 · 08-03-2019, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i bet Southpark don't pull their episode

Youtube video

ffs

Crimson Dynamo · 08-03-2019, 10:01 AM

all the bs about "but he never had a childhood" - er he did have a childhood, yes if was different to many but he still had one and it was better than an awful lot of kids.

Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris honed their careers so they could be around kids all the time too

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 10:47 AM

Just finished watching the second bit, fell asleep last night. Wades mother, saying she could forgive Michael as he was sick? Ugh. Regardless of the reasons I could never ever forgive someone abusing my kid. James' brother has the most 'typical' reaction I think, the anger. You can see it boiling away too though I can see why some would think he comes over emotionless too...that was MY reaction when I found out my brother was taken advantage of by an adult, when 8. So thats the reaction I can relate to the most. Just pure ****ing rage. I was genuinely going to kill this guy..my brother was still quite..confused and thought it was normal and a 'relationship' rather than abuse. My parents talked me down mind, luckily as I know I would have gone through with it and probably still been in prison now. I know now that it would not have been the best thing for HIM for me to do this. But at the time, there was just pure rage and disgust. That 'came about' by accident really, he never told anyone about the abuse, he 'slipped up' when talking about someone he admired, then further questioning brought out the truth. Honestly, he seems to have repressed it all now, which is maybe for the best. I do think it may all come out again though given he now has his own child and that does tend to bring it back to the surface :/

That was a load of waffle about nothing to do with the thread really. But yeah. I still do not think Wades mother seems...remorseful. The other mother neither really. Both seem to be trying to excuse what they did, and honestly I guess they were groomed too...but the thought that you could just ignore your childs welfare like that with bright lights and presents, its just awful. Maybe its one of those things that you wouldn't understand unless you have some experience of it, but I like to think some person trying to get at my kids..I would see it coming regardless. BUT, people don't do they, sports coaches, priests, the stories look like they have loads of warnings signs, but people seem to not pick up on it. Off to watch that abducted in plain sight thing now I think, as have been advised to by a few people.

UserSince2005 · 08-03-2019, 11:41 AM

Has anyone else seen Michael video response to the documentary on WhatsApp, ****ing hilarious. Wish it was online

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Has anyone else seen Michael video response to the documentary on WhatsApp, ****ing hilarious. Wish it was online

My husband sent me it yesterday in PM on FB, bad taste

UserSince2005 · 08-03-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

My husband sent me it yesterday in PM on FB, bad taste

Yeah pretty bad taste. But funny.

Kazanne · 08-03-2019, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Has anyone else seen Michael video response to the documentary on WhatsApp, ****ing hilarious. Wish it was online

I don't see it as a laughing matter at all for anyone concerned and Parmys avatar which is supposed to be funny is all over FB,didn't even make me smile,

Beso · 08-03-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't see it as a laughing matter at all for anyone concerned and Parmys avatar which is supposed to be funny is all over FB,didn't even make me smile,

I knew I shouldn't have posted it....sorry Kaz.

Kazanne · 08-03-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I knew I shouldn't have posted it....sorry Kaz.

You don't need to be Parmy, it's all over FB I was even sent it in a text,no offence taken from you.

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 11:53 AM

I can see why some would think that. Humour is..subjective. My husband found it hilarious, and was not expecting the death stare instead of a laugh!

Ramsay · 08-03-2019, 12:28 PM

I would say most pedos are careful enough not to record themselves in the act Kaz

Kazanne · 08-03-2019, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramsay

I would say most pedos are careful enough not to record themselves in the act Kaz

That's not what I was alluding to,surely going to a place like Neverland you'de at least take a camera/video to keep those memories,so if as is reported people were suspicious of what he was doing,surely you would try and get absolute truth,I wasn't on about MJ filming anything at all.

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's not what I was alluding to,surely going to a place like Neverland you'de at least take a camera/video to keep those memories,so if as is reported people were suspicious of what he was doing,surely you would try and get absolute truth,I wasn't on about MJ filming anything at all.

That was actually covered in the documentary. I think it was the grandmother who said it..guards take phones and such off you. Which she found odd at the time 'but felt safe as her husband was there' or something similar.

That..is another thing that makes no sense. That 'rule', if everything was above board then of course people would want videos/pics of visiting somewhere like that.

AnnieK · 08-03-2019, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

That was actually covered in the documentary. I think it was the grandmother who said it..guards take phones and such off you. Which she found odd at the time 'but felt safe as her husband was there' or something similar.

That..is another thing that makes no sense. That 'rule', if everything was above board then of course people would want videos/pics of visiting somewhere like that.

A lot of celebs do that though from what I've read. Anything where people could make money selling pics, phones / cameras etc are usually banned. My ex was a DJ and did a few Man Utd parties and all his gear was checked for recording devices and his phone removed etc each time.

Vicky. · 08-03-2019, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

A lot of celebs do that though from what I've read. Anything where people could make money selling pics, phones / cameras etc are usually banned. My ex was a DJ and did a few Man Utd parties and all his gear was checked for recording devices and his phone removed etc each time.

Yeah that makes sense I guess

AnnieK · 08-03-2019, 12:33 PM

The whole thing is mass of lies and contradictions on all sides. I've just seen that Le Toya Jackson said he was guilty of abuse years ago then said she lied too. Nothing will ever be proved one way or the other I fear.

user104658 · 08-03-2019, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

The whole thing is mass of lies and contradictions on all sides. I've just seen that Le Toya Jackson said he was guilty of abuse years ago then said she lied too. Nothing will ever be proved one way or the other I fear.

La Toya was constantly coming out against him for a while, then suddenly went very quiet on the matter. One assumes the rest of the family closed ranks and told her to zip it.