[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

It was in Zelensky
not saying the correct words
without his helper translator


Ref : CNN HD

Bull

Originally Posted by Alf

No, Zelenskyy did.

Sh1t


No one is playing these games any more, the sky is not green, and the moon is not made of cheese.

[arista]

Although Euro Leaders
dissed Trump

Sly PM Starmer
stayed out of it.

A member of his staff spoke
instead

[bots]

people quickly forget the first days of the war when russian special forces were sent in to kill Zelenskyy and America offered to get him out the country and he refused to go.

[bots]

What people don't seem to realise is that ukraine has it's own manufacturing capability now for drones and ammunition. They are actually in a pretty strong position now to defend the land they have. It's of course a very different thing to push the enemy out as they are dug in, but Russia need a break in hostilities to re-arm and re-group, Ukraine don't need this time.

Going forward over say the next 12 months, if America continue to side with Russia .... are they going to arm russia and put boots on the ground in support of russia? I don't think thats possible at this point, but you never know

Trump is not taking an inward looking posture at all, he has made america a predator. Take greenland, take panama, take Gaza, take minerals from ukraine and we are only 5 weeks in to his presidency

[Parmy]

Wasnt it ukraine that offered America the mineral deal, bots?

[bots]

America put a mineral deal on the table to Zelenskyy and told him to sign it without reading it. That doesn't equate to a deal to me

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

America put a mineral deal on the table to Zelenskyy and told him to sign it without reading it. That doesn't equate to a deal to me

No it doesn't, not at all.
I agree

[Livia]

Trump and Vance looked like bullies, neither of them covered themselves in glory. They wouldn't let Zelensky speak, and it was more difficult for him as his first language is not English. Yet they suck up to Putin. Pair of idiots and they showed it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Trump and Vance looked like bullies, neither of them covered themselves in glory. They wouldn't let Zelensky speak, and it was more difficult for him as his first language is not English. Yet they suck up to Putin. Pair of idiots and they showed it.

I agree.
It was very uncomfortable viewing indeed.

However it's at Trump's and Vance's door that this shameful event unfolded.
It was more like they saw Zelensky as the aggressor in the conflict with Russia and not how it really is, that Putin and Russia ARE the aggressors AND invaders.

[arista]

Sadly it was lost in translation

When Zelensky later that day
when it was live on FoxNewsHD
he had a a translator, off camera


Reported on CNN HD Smercornish Live, today.




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ds-breath.html

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by arista

Sadly it was lost in translation

When Zelensky later that day
when it was live on FoxNewsHD
he had a a translator, off camera


Reported on CNN HD Smercornish Live, today.




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ds-breath.html

Nothing was lost in translation. The world see two morons, with no intelligence, both incredibly unfit for their jobs, trying to bully a solider.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Nothing was lost in translation. The world see two morons, with no intelligence, both incredibly unfit for their jobs, trying to bully a solider.

It was in Zelensky
not saying the correct words
without his helper translator


Ref : CNN HD

[arista]

Tomorrow
Zelensky, meets the King at Windsor


SkyNewsHD Live

[Alf]

Here is the full 50-minute conversation between President Trump and President Zelensky.

There are a lot of politicians claiming Zelensky was "ambushed."

There was a full 40 minutes of dialogue before the "fireworks" started.

The president insisted throughout the first 40 minutes that he was focused on peace.

Zelensky responded by strongly pushing back on a ceasefire with Russia and demanded that Putin pay for the entire war.

JD Vance jumps in at the 40-minute mark to clarify the difference between Trump and Biden and their approach to the war.

This apparently ticked off Zelensky which is when the fireworks started.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

Here is the full 50-minute conversation between President Trump and President Zelensky.

There are a lot of politicians claiming Zelensky was "ambushed."

There was a full 40 minutes of dialogue before the "fireworks" started.

The president insisted throughout the first 40 minutes that he was focused on peace.

Zelensky responded by strongly pushing back on a ceasefire with Russia and demanded that Putin pay for the entire war.

JD Vance jumps in at the 40-minute mark to clarify the difference between Trump and Biden and their approach to the war.

This apparently ticked off Zelensky which is when the fireworks started.

No, what Zelenskyy was saying was that Putin could not be trusted, in 2012 he signed along with Merkel, Macron and Putin a ceasefire deal and then in 2014 Putin invaded Crimea, pointless going for a ceasefire with no guarantees .....Putin would just rearm and go again in a few years time ...I have not heard one word of criticism towards Putin with regard to the invasion of Ukraine, dont you think that is odd for someone who says he is not taking sides? yet Trump has plenty to say about Zelenskyy...he is a dictator, unelected, a comedian....etc maybe if you watched for yourself and wrote your own thoughts rather than copying and pasting what someone put on X it would be better

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No, what Zelenskyy was saying was that Putin could not be trusted, in 2012 he signed along with Merkel, Macron and Putin a ceasefire deal and then in 2014 Putin invaded Crimea, pointless going for a ceasefire with no guarantees .....Putin would just rearm and go again in a few years time ...I have not heard one word of criticism towards Putin with regard to the invasion of Ukraine, dont you think that is odd for someone who says he is not taking sides? yet Trump has plenty to say about Zelenskyy...he is a dictator, unelected, a comedian....etc maybe if you watched for yourself and wrote your own thoughts rather than copying and pasting what someone put on X it would be better

Where does your knowledge on all this come from?

Surely you must have listened to people's opinions to form your own opinion?

So that would be a like to copying a pasting other people's opinions, wouldn't it.

Sorry, but I'm no expert on this, I know as much as you about what's actually really going on, which is nothing.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

Where does your knowledge on all this come from?

Surely you must have listened to people's opinions to form your own opinion?

So that would be a like to copying a pasting other people's opinions, wouldn't it.

Sorry, but I'm no expert on this, I know as much as you about what's actually really going on, which is nothing.

No I formed an opinion from watching the whole thing unfold live..... ?

[Alf]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes, she was shocked.

[arista]

Alf
Have you got anything new?

I have seen all these near live
at the time on UK TV news

And the Ch4HDnews Live report

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

alf
have you got anything new?

I have seen all these near live
at the time on uk tv news

and the ch4hdnews live report

[Alf]

Best thing to end this war is for an election in Ukraine, get him voted out, then they can bring about ending the war.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

Best thing to end this war is for an election in Ukraine, get him voted out, then they can bring about ending the war.

How do you propose to hold an election while they are at War....?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How do you propose to hold an election while they are at War....?

Well let's face it. Right now Zelensky is a dictator. The elections were due to be held in October 2023 but Zelensky cancelled them and put the country under martial-law.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well let's face it. Right now Zelensky is a dictator. The elections were due to be held in October 2023 but Zelensky cancelled them and put the country under martial-law.

Just like Churchill didnt hold elections while Britain was at War, is there a difference....not sure how you expect people to go to the Polls as if it is normal times...how would that work