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It's not going to turn the war around at the end of the day.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that the West knows that eventually Russia will gain from this war (perhaps not all of Ukraine but significant chunks of it) BUT - by the time Russia does settle with what they've got - they want it to have been so drawn out, difficult, uncomfortable & costly that they will think twice before entering another similar conflict.

Basically it needs to be that Russia can save face by saying that they succeeded in their war goals, whilst at the same time, not being able to push any further out without massive risk.
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Putin signs law allowing a nuclear strike:

[Kremlin leader lowers threshold for justifying
nuke launch amid growing WW3 fears as
Ukraine fires US-made ATACMS into
Russia for first time]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ssia-time.html


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if he is going to do a nuclear strike, he doesn't need to change any rules to justify it. One could say it is posturing
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Well he better not nuke london because high a share of my property protfolio is there and so it would ruin me financially.
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An Hour back or so
PM Starmer, spoke Live in Rio Brazil.

The i paper asked PM Starmer
"should the UK prepare for Nuclear War"

PM Starmer asked him to say it again,
then stated we should ignore Putin's words?
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It's not going to turn the war around at the end of the day.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that the West knows that eventually Russia will gain from this war (perhaps not all of Ukraine but significant chunks of it) BUT - by the time Russia does settle with what they've got - they want it to have been so drawn out, difficult, uncomfortable & costly that they will think twice before entering another similar conflict.

Basically it needs to be that Russia can save face by saying that they succeeded in their war goals, whilst at the same time, not being able to push any further out without massive risk.
I'd say we're arguably at that point now tbh. The front lines have been basically frozen for like 2 years now but realistically the only side that will gain further is Russia unless there's a dramatic increase in support from the West for Ukraine which is unlikely to come.
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Apologies - I admit to being ignorant on these matters .,


Soooo if North Korea has joined forces with Russia are South Korea likely to join up with Ukraine ??

Who will Trump’s USA side up with ?


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the next 12 months will be interesting, i can't predict how it will go, can anyone? The best we can hope for is that all sides realise economically everyone is a loser while it continues
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Soooo if North Korea has joined forces with Russia are South Korea likely to join up with Ukraine ??

Who will Trump’s USA side up with ?

SK aren't going to fight NK outside of Korea, would be my assumption. They'll be concerned about Russia supplying NK with weapon advancements (or nuclear assistance) more than anything else.

Alliance with SK is IMO far too important to the US in the Pacific for that to ever be under any sort of realistic threat, Trump or no Trump. The USA is South Korea's closest ally.
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Reports that storm shadows have been used inside russia. UK wont confirm it
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Soooo if North Korea has joined forces with Russia are South Korea likely to join up with Ukraine ??

Who will Trump’s USA side up with ?


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China.

China are bored with putin.


Norway and sweden have issued their residents with leaflets on how to stock pile items incase of a nuclear strike.

But the US will only side with China after 30th of january when trump becomes president up until then, Biden will do everything he can for war to happen
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Can someone take this puny poo down! Seriously. Can a noble man in his camp trip him, then bind him and dispose.


Anyway we must take the warning to stock up on food seriously
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Can someone take this puny poo down! Seriously. Can a noble man in his camp trip him, then bind him and dispose.


Anyway we must take the warning to stock up on food seriously

I heard somewhere that Putin is just the current leader and there are far more evil people waiting in the wings for when he falls !!

Scary if correct


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This Could be a "Possible"
President Trump Plan
on Monday, Jan/ 20 / 2025


All land is Frozen


So Russia has more bits of Ukraine
but not all of it

President Zelensky must Resign

His Number 2
Takes over.


And also Ukraine holds a bit of Russia
up the top.


No More Fighting
under President Trump's Order

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Or

Zelensky must stand trial in Moscow for High Treason

All of Ukraine is part of Mother Russia

Expel Finland and Sweden from NATO

Order the Baltic States to return to Mother Russia, which they are a part of, just like Ukrainne is.

Deport the Scripols to Russia
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