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Old 31-07-2009, 05:23 AM #26
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Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.
exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?
Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!
exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.
I cut Siavash some slack because of his history when he talks about his girlfriend. Initially he had something going on with someone outside the house. Then he had a girlfriend. Then the girlfriend was a lie and he used a fake relationship to distance himself from a romance inside the house. If he doesn't know the status of his own relationship, I sure as hell don't. So, I'm just taking it at face value.

Siavash says he pretended to have a girlfriend so I believe him. *****en said she had an ex boyfriend on the outside that she loved; so I believe her on that too.

However, how much does she really love Isaac when she makes out with a handsome Iranian after a few weeks?
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:24 AM #27
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No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.
No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.
you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.
My sexist views on noirin? If you read back, and also through my other posts i think you may find that I agree siavash was in the wrong also.
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My take on this is that they have both been in the wrong, As regards to Noirin she has used Siavash likes she has used the other housemates, in the case of Siavash he hurt his girlfriend, it doesn't matter what length of time he has been with his girlfriend, the facts are he hurt her!

It annoys me about Siavash because i keep going on about if that was Freddie? he would be hated big time,, but as it is your precious Siavash who can't do no wrong, he gets sympathy?

Siavash could win based on this stupid sympathy when in truth he is as much to blame as Noirin is!
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:26 AM #29
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No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.
No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.
you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.
My sexist views on noirin? If you read back, and also through my other posts i think you may find that I agree siavash was in the wrong also.
so then we both misunderstand eachothers posts then
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:28 AM #30
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No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.
No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.
you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.
My sexist views on noirin? If you read back, and also through my other posts i think you may find that I agree siavash was in the wrong also.
so then we both misunderstand eachothers posts then
It did come across as you trying to blame siavash for everything though.

My bad
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:32 AM #31
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Ugggh you people Siavash doesn't even have a girlfriend!
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:33 AM #32
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Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.
exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?
Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!
exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.
I cut Siavash some slack because of his history when he talks about his girlfriend. Initially he had something going on with someone outside the house. Then he had a girlfriend. Then the girlfriend was a lie and he used a fake relationship to distance himself from a romance inside the house. If he doesn't know the status of his own relationship, I sure as hell don't. So, I'm just taking it at face value.

Siavash says he pretended to have a girlfriend so I believe him. *****en said she had an ex boyfriend on the outside that she loved; so I believe her on that too.

However, how much does she really love Isaac when she makes out with a handsome Iranian after a few weeks?
seeing as his 'fake' girlfriend has been on bblb and has also been mentioned in various news stories about her reaction to the kiss, I would think it was safe to say she exists.

Isaac broke up with Noirin, she didn't know he wanted her back, as he refused to ask her to be his girlfriend before she went into the house, and only told her not to kiss anyone. Noirin was single and thought her love for Isaac was one sided (she told Marcus this) it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that, especially being so cut off in the house. the outside world would seem a long way away.
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Ugggh you people Siavash doesn't even have a girlfriend!
His friend on BBLB said he did.

She has spoken out about it also.

He does/did have a girlfriend
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Vicky you seem like a reasonable person! But don't you think that people should leave Noirin alone. In my eyes she didnt do anything wrong. She is a grown women and she could do whatever she wants. Lisa and David both think that this is bad but Noirin hasnt even seen her ex in such a long time! And Issac isn't a bad man! I live here in NYC
and I have seen the whole season of the show that he was on. He's such a sarcastic person that might come across of him being cocky, arrogant, or a douche. But people need stop hating on him just because he doesnt have any class and considering he is an american! Wouldnt you agree?
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Vicky you seem like a reasonable person! But don't you think that people should leave Noirin alone. In my eyes she didnt do anything wrong. She is a grown women and she could do whatever she wants. Lisa and David both think that this is bad but Noirin hasnt even seen her ex in such a long time! And Issac isn't a bad man! I live here in NYC
and I have seen the whole season of the show that he was on. He's such a sarcastic person that might come across of him being cocky, arrogant, or a douche. But people need stop hating on him just because he doesnt have any class and considering he is an american! Wouldnt you agree?
Saying he has no class wont really help your cause.

And about noirin, i feel she WAS in the wrong, yes she is a grown woman who can do what she wants, however this does not give her grounds to play with peoples emotions in the way that she did. She was with siavash, now i dont care how many times people say she wasnt in a relationship with him, they were just friends, she was. You do not snog your friends, sleep with them and chat about the future in a few years time. She dropped him like a hot potato the second isaac walked through the door, which is understandable as she is in love with him, and has said on many occasions. But, she could have at least spoken to siavash about it. And she did not have to laugh about him behind his back. Plus why lie to isaac, saying that she had only kissed siavash once, and that was when she was drnk?

Isaac, I havent fully made my mind up on him yet, he has been hated instantly plainly on his association with noirin, which is unfair, however what I have seen of him on LF tonight, lying there bitching all night, I do not think too highly of him, but i am waiting until Noirin leaves to make proper judgement on him.
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Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.
exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?
Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!
exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.
I cut Siavash some slack because of his history when he talks about his girlfriend. Initially he had something going on with someone outside the house. Then he had a girlfriend. Then the girlfriend was a lie and he used a fake relationship to distance himself from a romance inside the house. If he doesn't know the status of his own relationship, I sure as hell don't. So, I'm just taking it at face value.

Siavash says he pretended to have a girlfriend so I believe him. *****en said she had an ex boyfriend on the outside that she loved; so I believe her on that too.

However, how much does she really love Isaac when she makes out with a handsome Iranian after a few weeks?
seeing as his 'fake' girlfriend has been on bblb and has also been mentioned in various news stories about her reaction to the kiss, I would think it was safe to say she exists.

Isaac broke up with Noirin, she didn't know he wanted her back, as he refused to ask her to be his girlfriend before she went into the house, and only told her not to kiss anyone. Noirin was single and thought her love for Isaac was one sided (she told Marcus this) it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that, especially being so cut off in the house. the outside world would seem a long way away.
Ben Roethlisberger jumps into my mind on that note. Odds are you don't know this guy. He's a football player under media spotlight at the moment because some girl he had sex with a year ago is now claiming it was rape. I can't help but draw similarities between this girl and Siavash's girlfriend.

People like their 15 minutes of fame. Siavash's ex seems to be looking for hers. I have to find this BBLB to download it and watch because I never saw it. BUT! If she was truly wounded by Siavash she wouldn't be dumb enough to televise it.

"it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that" even if I took this point of view to be true... even if I fully believed in Siavash's girlfriend to be 100% solid... wouldn't that absolve Siavash? I mean, he is removed from regular society too...
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Ben Roethlisberger jumps into my mind on that note. Odds are you don't know this guy. He's a football player under media spotlight at the moment because some girl he had sex with a year ago is now claiming it was rape. I can't help but draw similarities between this girl and Siavash's girlfriend.

People like their 15 minutes of fame. Siavash's ex seems to be looking for hers. I have to find this BBLB to download it and watch because I never saw it. BUT! If she was truly wounded by Siavash she wouldn't be dumb enough to televise it.

"it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that" even if I took this point of view to be true... even if I fully believed in Siavash's girlfriend to be 100% solid... wouldn't that absolve Siavash? I mean, he is removed from regular society too...
It wouldn't absolve him as he was not single at the time, all the other housemates with partners have managed to stay faithful despite being cut off - why couldn't he?

Noirin was single and could act a bit more impulsively.
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Vicky you seem like a reasonable person! But don't you think that people should leave Noirin alone. In my eyes she didnt do anything wrong. She is a grown women and she could do whatever she wants. Lisa and David both think that this is bad but Noirin hasnt even seen her ex in such a long time! And Issac isn't a bad man! I live here in NYC
and I have seen the whole season of the show that he was on. He's such a sarcastic person that might come across of him being cocky, arrogant, or a douche. But people need stop hating on him just because he doesnt have any class and considering he is an american! Wouldnt you agree?
Alright! Another New Yorker!

Apart from that... *****en is a grown woman and she can do whatever she wants. But when you're judged by a nation they're not going to side with every single house mate all the time. I've said this before, she's an egocentric child...

I haven't really had a bad word to say about Isaac yet. reserving my judgement until I see more of the guy. I just want the bitch to go so I can judge him objectively.
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Ben Roethlisberger jumps into my mind on that note. Odds are you don't know this guy. He's a football player under media spotlight at the moment because some girl he had sex with a year ago is now claiming it was rape. I can't help but draw similarities between this girl and Siavash's girlfriend.

People like their 15 minutes of fame. Siavash's ex seems to be looking for hers. I have to find this BBLB to download it and watch because I never saw it. BUT! If she was truly wounded by Siavash she wouldn't be dumb enough to televise it.

"it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that" even if I took this point of view to be true... even if I fully believed in Siavash's girlfriend to be 100% solid... wouldn't that absolve Siavash? I mean, he is removed from regular society too...
It wouldn't absolve him as he was not single at the time, all the other housemates with partners have managed to stay faithful despite being cut off - why couldn't he?

Noirin was single and could act a bit more impulsively.
*****en didn't stay faithful despite being cut off. The difference stands at the fact that Siavash would choose *****en over his girlfriend and *****en just throws guys into a limbo until things work out her way.

Oh what happened? She came out with the only relationship out of her, sree, marcus, halfwit (arguably), siavash. Her "tramp stamp" is the only thing about her that is truthful.
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