[eye sea]

[rquote=2570225&tid=147617&author=nut][rquote=2570196&tid=147617&author=eye sea]I think it's called 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...'.[/rquote]???? what on earth are you on about? please explain? i have no clue what you are getting at? anyone else know? because ill be *******ed if i know what eye sea is trying to say?[/rquote]

I meant, C4 will be red-faced if they back-track on their decision to axe the show. But how they must be mad at the thought of all the lucrative advertising they will miss out on.

[Scarlett.]

[rquote=2570223&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about [/rquote]

Well seeing as how sponsership is apart of commercialisation my point still stands, individual things won't but collectively they might.

Off to dinner now.

There is a huge difference between commercialisation and sponsoring a program.

[/rquote]Sponsorship = Mini advert before programme
Product placement = In programme

Plus the adverts wont be overt, as it would make people switch off

[nut]

[rquote=2570236&tid=147617&author=eye sea][rquote=2570225&tid=147617&author=nut][rquote=2570196&tid=147617&author=eye sea]I think it's called 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...'.[/rquote]???? what on earth are you on about? please explain? i have no clue what you are getting at? anyone else know? because ill be *******ed if i know what eye sea is trying to say?[/rquote]

I meant, C4 will be red-faced if they back-track on their decision to axe the show. But how they must be mad at the thought of all the lucrative advertising they will miss out on.[/rquote]they will not back track they want shot of it its clear as day the show is dead if it was still profitable they would keep it going showing a tin of tesco beans is not going to save the show its dead millions have truned it off advertisers dont want to touch it after the race row with jade and shilpa shetty. BB get the food from tesco and tesco would want nothing to do with BB the same way that other mutli billion £ businesses have jumped ship since jade and the racist allegations.

RIP Big brother 2000-2010

[MiuMiu]

Channel 4 aren't going to change their minds.
They made such a big del about BB ending this year. Every one of the main entertainment news outlets, from papers, to magzines, tv shows and beyond, publicised the fact that it was ending.
If they went back on their word and commissioned more BB for money they would look like fools.

BB is ending next year.
And that's it.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570244&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570223&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about [/rquote]

Well seeing as how sponsership is apart of commercialisation my point still stands, individual things won't but collectively they might.

Off to dinner now.

There is a huge difference between commercialisation and sponsoring a program.

[/rquote]Sponsorship = Mini advert before programme
Product placement = In programme

Plus the adverts wont be overt, as it would make people switch off[/rquote]

Yes I know what they are thank you, but I said COMMERCIALISM not an individual subsection of it which the two things are a smaller part of.....

as such my statement stands.

Would you like to say the same thing for a third time?

Dinner was lovely - thank you for asking.

[Scarlett.]

[rquote=2570318&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570244&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570223&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about [/rquote]

Well seeing as how sponsership is apart of commercialisation my point still stands, individual things won't but collectively they might.

Off to dinner now.

There is a huge difference between commercialisation and sponsoring a program.

[/rquote]Sponsorship = Mini advert before programme
Product placement = In programme

Plus the adverts wont be overt, as it would make people switch off[/rquote]

Yes I know what they are thank you, but I said COMMERCIALISM not an individual subsection of it which the two things are a smaller part of.....

as such my statement stands.

Would you like to say the same thing for a third time?

Dinner was lovely - thank you for asking.



What do [/rquote]

Fine, we will abolish commercialism and just have the BBC, does that suit you?

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570324&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570318&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570244&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570223&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about [/rquote]

Well seeing as how sponsership is apart of commercialisation my point still stands, individual things won't but collectively they might.

Off to dinner now.

There is a huge difference between commercialisation and sponsoring a program.

[/rquote]Sponsorship = Mini advert before programme
Product placement = In programme

Plus the adverts wont be overt, as it would make people switch off[/rquote]

Yes I know what they are thank you, but I said COMMERCIALISM not an individual subsection of it which the two things are a smaller part of.....

as such my statement stands.

Would you like to say the same thing for a third time?

Dinner was lovely - thank you for asking.



What do [/rquote]

Fine, we will abolish commercialism and just have the BBC, does that suit you?[/rquote]

Well I thank you kindly it was Lamb chops and mint sauce it was quite nice.

Since when is commercialism just restricted to TV?

[Scarlett.]

[rquote=2570327&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570324&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570318&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570244&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570223&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about [/rquote]

Well seeing as how sponsership is apart of commercialisation my point still stands, individual things won't but collectively they might.

Off to dinner now.

There is a huge difference between commercialisation and sponsoring a program.

[/rquote]Sponsorship = Mini advert before programme
Product placement = In programme

Plus the adverts wont be overt, as it would make people switch off[/rquote]

Yes I know what they are thank you, but I said COMMERCIALISM not an individual subsection of it which the two things are a smaller part of.....

as such my statement stands.

Would you like to say the same thing for a third time?

Dinner was lovely - thank you for asking.



What do [/rquote]

Fine, we will abolish commercialism and just have the BBC, does that suit you?[/rquote]

Well I thank you kindly it was Lamb chops and mint sauce it was quite nice.

Since when is commercialism just restricted to TV?[/rquote]Fine, we abolish commercialism and you will have to kill for your lamb chops and mint sauce

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

since when does commercialism control trade?

[Shasown]

[rquote=2570332&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie]

Fine, we abolish commercialism and you will have to kill for your lamb chops and mint sauce[/rquote]

Someone has to otherwise the lamb chops wouldnt get from field to plate, now would they? They don't just jump out of the animal into a passing vehicle straight to the butchers .

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

it can influence but not control. Should we allow giant companies (who lets face it our only interested in £££ or $$$ (dont have a Euro Button - why not?) to have this trade?

They are already the biggest lobbyests (sorry had some wine wine dinner, white, nice, and cheap from Sainsburys, try something new today). Should we allow them more control?

[Scarlett.]

[rquote=2570335&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]since when does commercialism control trade?[/rquote]How have you managed to turn a thread about BB into a debate about commercialism?

Anyway, I cba, product placement is a good thing for TV, we're in a global recession, and this is very helpful to the TV buisness

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570339&tid=147617&author=Shasown][rquote=2570332&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie]

Fine, we abolish commercialism and you will have to kill for your lamb chops and mint sauce[/rquote]

Someone has to otherwise the lamb chops wouldnt get from field to plate, now would they? They don't just jump out of the animal into a passing vehicle straight to the butchers .[/rquote]

*ahem* you forgot about it being pre-packaged.

[nut]

[rquote=2570236&tid=147617&author=eye sea][rquote=2570225&tid=147617&author=nut][rquote=2570196&tid=147617&author=eye sea]I think it's called 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...'.[/rquote]???? what on earth are you on about? please explain? i have no clue what you are getting at? anyone else know? because ill be *******ed if i know what eye sea is trying to say?[/rquote]

I meant, C4 will be red-faced if they back-track on their decision to axe the show. But how they must be mad at the thought of all the lucrative advertising they will miss out on.[/rquote]
..

it's called 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...'.

i just had a look what the saying means and its the total oppersit to what you are saying its an 'Idiom = "trying to stop something bad happening when it has already happened and the situation cannot be changed!

C4 is not trying to put right what as gone wrong, its gone wrong already all they want now is shot of it. I think you used the saying "closing the stable door after the horse has bolted" incorrectly.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570342&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2570335&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]since when does commercialism control trade?[/rquote]How have you managed to turn a thread about BB into a debate about commercialism?

Anyway, I cba, product placement is a good thing for TV, we're in a global recession, and this is very helpful to the TV buisness[/rquote]

Well seeing as how people think that this will save BB and is a good thing as such, I think it's only right that I can say why I think product placement on our screens is a bad thing - BB or not, it was not I that started the thread but I will point out a bit about it if I feel there is a point to be made by myself.

This current global recession that we are in is caused by several factors, I know of at least two business that have gone under in recent weeks (through friends and family) yet companies with stronger finances (Sainsburys, would be an example for a fact) are increasing their profits. I haven't been hit at all by this credit crunch - and you want to know the very basic reason why?

My house isn't full of pointless things that my TV/Mag/Radio told me to buy.

My clothes are clothes not labels.

My lifestyle is within my means.

I didnt run up huge credit bill by buying things that I was influenced (and yes TV does influence us, *simples*) into buying. The credit crunch has come about because people have spent too much on things they don't need, why? because if they don't have these things then there lives aren't complete.

Advertising - is it good or bad? When a company like Coke spends more on Advertising a year than some of the poorer countries GDP!

Sorry if this is a rant - but I love BB, but to save it at this cost, I'd rather die. (and sadly I think that sooner rather than later that will be it - this world can sicken me to a point before I will need to kill myself and be buried in a £1,400 box with a service that costs another £3/5000 just to burn me and eff me off.

No, businesses are great, long may they rape the planet of everything it has - including our souls.

(oh, some sauteed pots and some cauliflower - again, nice with mint sauce)

x

[andyman]

Channel 4 have said they want to buy more american programs... (cheap sh*t!)

If Channel 4 still don't want BB then surely the product placement news should get Channel 5 intrested.. But ratings are the problem.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

OI NUT!!!!! (sorry, just trying to get your attention)

I just read back this, and I noticed I missed your post about McDonalds (sorry about that) My remark about the chippy was a flippant one, as why should it be allowed if they are controlling ads for fatty foods on childrens TV, and with the current hysteria about obseity (which could be easily resolved with healthy eating and exercise) rather than blocking things out.

However I do kinda of agree with it, should things that are bad for people be banned from advertising?

Why are there tough laws blocking some adverts (such as the child/fatty foods and the smoking advert ban) be treated any differently than BP, or Texaco when they are globally damaging whereas fatty foods and fags are more personal damaging).

Why do the governments care about how we look after our lives when they are happy to start wars with other countries for mineral resources (and not just talking about current conflict in Afghan/Iraq) - hell America needs wars to advertise it latest weapons - coming to a conflict near you soon.

[InOne]

I don't agree with banning fatty or fast food ad's. I'll eat what I want, and if I die of a heart attack well there is one less cvnt in the world.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570393&tid=147617&author=andyman]Channel 4 have said they want to buy more american programs... (cheap sh*t!)

If Channel 4 still don't want BB then surely the product placement news should get Channel 5 intrested.. But ratings are the problem.

[/rquote]

Thats harsh, there is some very good TV from America (most of it from HBO though). I can see why C4 are heading this way, it must be a lot cheaper to buy programs (with a track record, even if it is the American audience so will differ) than spend money making their own programs.

But doesn't that meant that C4 could just turn into another Dave, or UK Gold, showing us nothing original to the station.

C4 is the best channel, it has a better outlook on things, and will show things that other channels might shy away from. Its been great at producing comedies over the years.

The entire channel seems to be taking a direction for the worse. It seems to have lost its edge that always made it C4.

[nut]

[rquote=2570393&tid=147617&author=andyman]Channel 4 have said they want to buy more american programs... (cheap sh*t!)

If Channel 4 still don't want BB then surely the product placement news should get Channel 5 intrested.. But ratings are the problem.

[/rquote]I cant see how product placing will make any difference? they cant fill the time frame they would like with normal advertising brakes they would like, product placement is not going to save the show if they cant fill the time slots they have now.

I can tell you now if they do that it will kill the show even more than it is already i will not watch a tin of beans sitting on a shelf or a bottle of coke ect.. how many times in the 1 hour HL show are we going to see the tins of beans and bottles of coke ect.. then have 5 mins adds every 15 minutes? show will not be worth watching

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570417&tid=147617&author=InOne]I don't agree with banning fatty or fast food ad's. I'll eat what I want, and if I die of a heart attack well there is one less cvnt in the world.[/rquote]

I know its, OUR CHOICE.

Banning fatty foods on kids TV is just the lazy way of telling Parents that they should say NO to their kids about those places.

It was easier to change the law than to educate the parents.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570425&tid=147617&author=nut][rquote=2570393&tid=147617&author=andyman]Channel 4 have said they want to buy more american programs... (cheap sh*t!)

If Channel 4 still don't want BB then surely the product placement news should get Channel 5 intrested.. But ratings are the problem.

[/rquote]I cant see how product placing will make any difference? they cant fill the time frame they would like with normal advertising brakes they would like, product placement is not going to save the show if they cant fill the time slots they have now.

I can tell you now if they do that it will kill the show even more than it is already i will not watch a tin of beans sitting on a shelf or a bottle of coke ect.. how many times in the 1 hour HL show are we going to see the tins of beans and bottles of coke ect.. then have 5 mins adds every 15 minutes? show will not be worth watching[/rquote]


DAY 34

8:51am - Jeff looks for breakfast, he takes out the box of yummy scrummy cereal that will keep him going till after lunch

11:23 - after eating X cereal Jeff is full of beans (baked by Heinz) when doing the task and passes with ease after having a full bowl of X cereal - the other housemates fail

12:37 Jeff rests on his comfy X bed and is still full after eating x cereal

[InOne]

[rquote=2570446&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570425&tid=147617&author=nut][rquote=2570393&tid=147617&author=andyman]Channel 4 have said they want to buy more american programs... (cheap sh*t!)

If Channel 4 still don't want BB then surely the product placement news should get Channel 5 intrested.. But ratings are the problem.

[/rquote]I cant see how product placing will make any difference? they cant fill the time frame they would like with normal advertising brakes they would like, product placement is not going to save the show if they cant fill the time slots they have now.

I can tell you now if they do that it will kill the show even more than it is already i will not watch a tin of beans sitting on a shelf or a bottle of coke ect.. how many times in the 1 hour HL show are we going to see the tins of beans and bottles of coke ect.. then have 5 mins adds every 15 minutes? show will not be worth watching[/rquote]


DAY 34

8:51am - Jeff looks for breakfast, he takes out the box of yummy scrummy cereal that will keep him going till after lunch

11:23 - after eating X cereal Jeff is full of beans (baked by Heinz) when doing the task and passes with ease after having a full bowl of X cereal - the other housemates fail

12:37 Jeff rests on his comfy X bed and is still full after eating x cereal

[/rquote]


It would be like The Truman Show where his wife is advertisng on tv, they would be holding the box up to the camera and smiling.

[nut]

[rquote=2570446&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2570425&tid=147617&author=nut][rquote=2570393&tid=147617&author=andyman]Channel 4 have said they want to buy more american programs... (cheap sh*t!)

If Channel 4 still don't want BB then surely the product placement news should get Channel 5 intrested.. But ratings are the problem.

[/rquote]I cant see how product placing will make any difference? they cant fill the time frame they would like with normal advertising brakes they would like, product placement is not going to save the show if they cant fill the time slots they have now.

I can tell you now if they do that it will kill the show even more than it is already i will not watch a tin of beans sitting on a shelf or a bottle of coke ect.. how many times in the 1 hour HL show are we going to see the tins of beans and bottles of coke ect.. then have 5 mins adds every 15 minutes? show will not be worth watching[/rquote]


DAY 34

8:51am - Jeff looks for breakfast, he takes out the box of yummy scrummy cereal that will keep him going till after lunch

11:23 - after eating X cereal Jeff is full of beans (baked by Heinz) when doing the task and passes with ease after having a full bowl of X cereal - the other housemates fail

12:37 Jeff rests on his comfy X bed and is still full after eating x cereal

[/rquote]that would p** me right off i dont want to know about what beans they are eating the have been telling me every day and its only day 34 like ******* will i put up with that for another 59 days sorry talking about the same old sh*t they said yestarday and jeff as just wiped his arse with andrex bog roll is not what i want to see or hear about every time the narrator speaks i dont want to hear him selling me anything I hope they try to save BB not kill it even more than i can be killed FFS doing what you are saying i will turn off and i think most of the die hard fans will do the same IMHO

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

[rquote=2570484&tid=147617&author=nut]

[/rquote]that would p** me right off i dont want to know about what beans they are eating the have been telling me every day and its only day 34 like ******* will i put up with that for another 59 days sorry talking about the same old sh*t they said yestarday and jeff as just wiped his arse with andrex bog roll is not what i want to see or hear about every time the narrator speaks i dont want to hear him selling me anything I hope they try to save BB not kill it even more than i can be killed FFS doing what you are saying i will turn off and i think most of the die hard fans will do the same IMHO[/rquote]

And BB, because of the nature and the way its shot, would be filled with PP. Just not good.

It will be bad enough in normal tv, why should BB be made worse by it (and I think its fair to say that it would be).

DAY 76

Jeff and Tanya argue about who's sheets are the whitest.

Bobs task is to decide which brand has whiter sheets.