[setanta]

Originally Posted by Stu

Exactly.

You have to appreciate there is a conflict of interest with remembrance day as you are remembering an army that inevitably did do, amongst other things, rape, beat and kill Irish people for quiet a number of years. I know the Irish also fought in both World War's with the British but that's a whole different story.

Yeah but sure alot of them were kinda coerced into doing so during the First World War and unfortunately their names haven't been been paid tribute to in the manner their heroism deserves.

I wonder what would happen if Celtic decided to have a minutes silence in memory of the victims of Bloody Sunday during an Old Firm clash?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yeah but sure alot of them were kinda coerced into doing so during the First World War and unfortunately their names haven't been been paid tribute to in the manner their heroism deserves.

I wonder what would happen if Celtic decided to have a minutes silence in memory of the victims of Bloody Sunday during an Old Firm clash?

haha, yeah, you hit the nail on the head there but It would be wrong of Celtic fans then too I suppose!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yeah but sure alot of them were kinda coerced into doing so during the First World War and unfortunately their names haven't been been paid tribute to in the manner their heroism deserves.

I wonder what would happen if Celtic decided to have a minutes silence in memory of the victims of Bloody Sunday during an Old Firm clash?

they do that everytime we score, often it lasts for like 20 minutes

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Exactly.

You have to appreciate there is a conflict of interest with remembrance day as you are remembering an army that inevitably did do, amongst other things, rape, beat and kill Irish people for quiet a number of years. I know the Irish also fought in both World War's with the British but that's a whole different story.

and so to recognise that you deliberately sing and chant during a minutes silence which is specifically about the 2 world wars in which thousands of Irish died to keep The UK free from Nazi takeover?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and so to recognise that you deliberately sing and chant during a minutes silence which is specifically about the 2 world wars in which thousands of Irish died to keep The UK free from Nazi takeover?

Spotted this coming from a mile off, such is your predictability.

No. I never said that. Stop putting words in peoples mouths and making assumptions on behalf all the time. Fucking hell man.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who I support does not make what happened at the Falkirk stadium any less or any more. It is irrelevant.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Who I support does not make what happened at the Falkirk stadium any less or any more. It is irrelevant.

Of course it does because you have a blatantly obvious agenda here which renders you incapable of actually having a discussion on this topic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

Of course it does because you have a blatantly obvious agenda here which renders you incapable of actually having a discussion on this topic.

why?

why would my disgust at not staying silent to remember the sacrifice that young men made to protect my country in any way be tarnished because I happen to support rangers. does the club i support preclude me. Why are lots of other posters disgusted?

what agenda other than being a human do i need to be appalled?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why?

why would my disgust at not staying silent to remember the sacrifice that young men made to protect my country in any way be tarnished because I happen to support rangers. does the club i support preclude me. Why are lots of other posters disgusted?

what agenda other than being a human do i need to be appalled?

Your viewing it in narrow terms to suit your own needs, as usual. None of us are defending what the Celtic fans did.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why?

why would my disgust at not staying silent to remember the sacrifice that young men made to protect my country in any way be tarnished because I happen to support rangers. does the club i support preclude me. Why are lots of other posters disgusted?

what agenda other than being a human do i need to be appalled?

We've gone over this already but you just continue to not see the other side of the coin here and involve yourself in a balanced, rather than reactionary discussion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

We've gone over this already but you just continue to not see the other side of the coin here and involve yourself in a balanced, rather than reactionary discussion.

there is no other side of the coin just the tired clutching at straws republican argument that no one ever pays any attention too.

check your local media for details. I have also not heard Celtic make your case, which is strange would you not think?

[30stone]

Remembering those who died.
Everyone should have done it.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Remembering those who died.
Everyone should have done it.

People have there reasons. Bear in mind these people have died for the freedom for people to not remember them.

I find it worse when people get all loving and remembering during remembrance, but do they remember during allllll those other day's of the year?

It's such a fad in many cases. And specially for LeatherTrumpet, note I said 'many cases' not 'it is a fad in all cases and nazi's are awesome'.

[InOne]

For this topic, I call Godwins law.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by InOne

For this topic, I call Godwins law.

I like it.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by InOne

For this topic, I call Godwins law.

Who mentioned it first?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by happyland

Who mentioned it first?

Dunno lol but it has been mentioned a few times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

For this topic, I call Godwins law.

in a discussion about War dead and world wars I think you may be barking up the wrong internet only based fake law

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

in a discussion about War dead and world wars I think you may be barking up the wrong internet only based fake law

This is about Irish Scottish and English people. Also football. The war is the theme, but the actual topic is about the way people reacted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

This is about Irish Scottish and English people. Also football. The war is the theme, but the actual topic is about the way people reacted.

reacted to what?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

reacted to what?

Well what happened and that. And the way they reacted to the minutes silence.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Interesting to note that all around the North of Ireland yesterday the minutes silences were impeccably observed at football matches..

hang on dont the irish Catholics in those audiences have some axes to grind?

oh
dear

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Interesting to note that all around the North of Ireland yesterday the minutes silences were impeccably observed at football matches..

hang on dont the irish Catholics in those audiences have some axes to grind?

oh
dear

They do, but like I said, and like you keep ignoring, they found the Celtic method obviously a tad disrespectful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

They do, but like I said, and like you keep ignoring, they found the Celtic method obviously a tad disrespectful.

so what point are making?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so what point are making?

That things are not as pathetically black and white as you see them. You seem to think people either partake in remembrance day OR don an SS uniform and parade Piccadilly square goosestepping.