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WOMBAI · 24-11-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid

I disagree.

If he believes attacking two teachers is normal behaviour maybe he should not be with his parents, period.

A lot depends on people's definition of the word 'attacking'. From my experience of teachers today - what with everyone being very pc - many are often over-dramatic in their use of words like that. I know an incident of a child that tapped another child on the shoulder with the blunt end of a pencil to get their attention - and a teacher accused them of 'stabbing' the child. Things are not always as black and white as some teachers make out.

Enid · 24-11-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

A lot depends on people's definition of the word 'attacking'. From my experience of teachers today - what with everyone being very pc - many are often over-dramatic in their use of words like that. I know an incident of a child that tapped another child on the shoulder with the blunt end of a pencil to get their attention - and a teacher accused them of 'stabbing' the child. Things are not always as black and white as some teachers make out.

I realise issues can be over-dramatised. I'm just going by what was said in the article. What lengths does a 4 year old have to go to, to get expelled, though?!

WOMBAI · 24-11-2009, 01:05 PM

It is difficult to imagine that a child of that age could do anything bad enough to get expelled. Even if a little so-and-so - he hasn't been given much of chance at 4. I believe that, in the eyes of the law, a child of that age isn't old enough to fully understand right and wrong. Just seems very extreme.

Also said in that article that a child of 3 was excluded from somewhere for hitting another child - but children of that age do hit each other - they will learn in time - they just need more supervision! I think it has much to do with teachers being afraid of parents holding the school accountable and suing them! It is a worrying trend!

Niamh. · 24-11-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It is difficult to imagine that a child of that age could do anything bad enough to get expelled. Even if a little so-and-so - he hasn't been given much of chance at 4. I believe that, in the eyes of the law, a child of that age isn't old enough to fully understand right and wrong. Just seems very extreme.

Also said in that article that a child of 3 was excluded from somewhere for hitting another child - but children of that age do hit each other - they will learn in time - they just need more supervision! I think it has much to do with teachers being afraid of parents holding the school accountable and suing them! It is a worrying trend!

Well, I can tell you I have a 5 year old son who's in his first year of school since September and he would never ever dream of hitting or kicking his teacher, he fully understands that this would be wrong, he also would not have done this last year when he was 4. He knows it's wrong because my husband and I taught him it's wrong and would not tolorate him behaving that way.

WOMBAI · 24-11-2009, 01:16 PM

Have you only the one child? Because as a mother of 3 - I know how different children brought up in the same family, under the same rules - can be. Again it is not always as simple as that!

Niamh. · 24-11-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Have you only the one child? Because as a mother of 3 - I know how different children brought up in the same family, under the same rules - can be. Again it is not always as simple as that!

No, I have 2 children 5 & 9 and also 2 step-children 11 & 14

and while they're all very different, none of them would get away with kicking their teacher

WOMBAI · 24-11-2009, 01:25 PM

Undoubtedly - he should have been punished - but expelled at 4. I think it is an irrationale over-reaction - probably based on the school's fears of action being taken against them.

Niamh. · 24-11-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Undoubtedly - he should have been punished - but expelled at 4. I think it is an irrationale over-reaction - probably based on the school's fears of action being taken against them.

well, If his parents are saying he's just "lively" I would imagine, by the sounds of it, they're not taking it seriously enough. I'm quite sure the school asked the parents to do something about before they expelled him.

Again, I'm only guessing of course but It's highly unlikely that this one thing happened and the school just expelled him.

WOMBAI · 24-11-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

well, If his parents are saying he's just "lively" I would imagine, by the sounds of it, they're not taking it seriously enough. I'm quite sure the school asked the parents to do something about before they expelled him.

Again, I'm only guessing of course but It's highly unlikely that this one thing happened and the school just expelled him.

Of course, you may be right - but schools certainly can expel a child for a one-off incident of 'violence' - especially if that child has presented with difficult behaviour previously. They may have been eager to get rid of him - and they saw their chance. Who knows!

Niamh. · 24-11-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Of course, you may be right - but schools certainly can expel a child for a one-off incident of 'violence' - especially if that child has presented with difficult behaviour previously. They may have been eager to get rid of him - and they saw their chance. Who knows!

lol, yeah, I don't think that article is really giving the whole story anyway!