[PaulyJ]

Err No, it's a game, like Darts is, like Chess is, i love Darts don't like Snooker much now, it use to be full of characters like Taylor and Stevens, and the boozy Alex Higgins.

My rule of thumb, If you can wear shoes then it's not a Sport, add golf to the list of Games as well.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

Err No, it's a game, like Darts is, like Chess is, i love Darts don't like Snooker much now, it use to be full of characters like Taylor and Stevens, and the boozy Alex Higgins.

My rule of thumb, If you can wear shoes then it's not a Sport, add golf to the list of Games as well.

well you can add football, rugby, tennis and cricket to your list they're all games too

cant believe your comparing darts and snooker to hungry hippo's and twister

[Patrick]

More of a sport than that WWE bollocks.

[PaulyJ]

Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes

Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.

Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

Fishing, shooting, archery, bowls(crown green) to name a couple or four.

[PaulyJ]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Fishing, shooting, archery, bowls(crown green) to name a couple or four.

Fishing is Hunting, even if you put the fishy back in. Yes you compete against people, but, Sport is about equal participation, between all participants, if you ask the fish he would agree with me that "This is no Sport"

Bowls, Archery, Shooting, are Professional Pass times................. Ok i am joking. Yep your right, Rule of Thumb Broken

But where are you drawing the line, do you consider Tidlywinks a Sport?

I draw the Line at a competition including Athletic Activity, and no Shoes.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes

Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.

Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

when your playing a game of snooker or darts for Ł50,000 in front of thousands of spectators, i think the heart will be racing a little bit dont you?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Patrick

More of a sport than that WWE bollocks.

Who said it was meant to be a sport? Was Die Hard a documentary? Mong.

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes

Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.

Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

What a brilliantly convoluted way of looking at things.

[PaulyJ]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

What a brilliantly convoluted way of looking at things.

Ok i will stop prattling on and simply ask of the Forum

Is Conckers a Sport?
Is Croquet a Sport?
Is Cherards a Sport?

What definition defines a Sport? Because if it is not Athleticism then Sport is going to become a Pointless description for me

[Stu]

Originally Posted by PaulyJ

Ok i will stop prattling on and simply ask of the Forum

Is Conckers a Sport?
Is Croquet a Sport?
Is Cherards a Sport?

What definition defines a Sport? Because if it is not Athleticism then Sport is going to become a Pointless description for me

I know pretty much zero about those games to comment, but I think most people use common sense to define what's a sport.

Chess & Snooker for instance. Sure, they both require great mental thinking but pretty much zero physical strain but one is always on telly, is always played in front of crowds, has some very well known figures, officialy endorsed console games and pretty much operates like a sport from the ground up and is received as a sport because it is transmitted as a sport, public perception wise.

Ergo Snooker is a sport, Chess is not.

Mind you like Chess, Snooker can also be seen as a recreational 'game'. Two drunk goons in the backroom of a pub are not competing in a major sporting event.

Ronnie O'Sullivan, however, is.

[Firewire]

Yes it's a sport.

[LemonJam]

I really like snooker, I'd say it was.

[PaulyJ]

It is not Common Sense to define such things by current trend, and public perception.
in the 60s and 70s Chess was tellevised, and competition today is in front of large crowds. Chess was a Sport then but now it is not now? There was a brief period in the 90's when Garry Kasperov was beaten by Deep Blue(a computer) Chess became very popular again, did Chess suddenly contain more "Sporting" content?

I dont think Sport should have a changeable Definition. I think it is fixed.

A celebrity can lose the Celebrity tag when they become unpopular, but i don't think Sport can be treated that way.

Even the Dictionary definitions of Sport are confused on this matter so public perception and trends will hold the majority view i guess. But if memory serves Snooker has been finding it hard to get revenue's for Prizes, Top Players needing to get jobs to pay the bills, it may soon fall the way of Chess, by your thinking it is losing it's "Sportiness"

[Stu]

Not with Barry Hearn taking charge this year. He saved Darts, so hopefully he can do some good for Snooker.

Snooker has been finding it hard to get revenues for some time now since it became illegal for them to use tobacco companies as sponsers - who traditionally would have sponsered the big tournaments.

The game has two primary problems : Not enough characters - people pay to see Ronnie, but that's about it - and the new generation of sports fan just dosn't have the attention span to absorb what a great game it can be.

If television as a whole is going down the toilet in favour of the internet due to the short attention span of youth, Snooker - a pedantic and calculating game at the best of times - was clearly always going to suffer.

[Claymores]

Topless Darts is the biggie sport JI - came on in early 90s just after the weather with midget on trampoline called bouncy trying to bounce high enough to show us where it was gonna Snow in Scotland

[Claymores]

Topless snooker? the ref a female lying over tbe table relpacing the balls? No wornder LIVE TV went bust with only topless darts

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Topless snooker? the ref a female lying over tbe table relpacing the balls? No wornder LIVE TV went bust with only topless darts

http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

I love that woman, feisty - you would not mess with her.

Oh, and ILoveDC, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think your topics should've been moved either.

[ILoveTRW]

OMG how dare you have this pathetic topic in the serious debate section

im going to have an uber fit because im a premenstrual slag

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

OMG how dare you have this pathetic topic in the serious debate section

im going to have an uber fit because im a premenstrual slag

What sort of a debate is it then, a parody debate?

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

What sort of a debate is it then, a parody debate?

this should be in the sport section *hyperventilates*

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

this should be in the sport section *hyperventilates*

It's a debate. A debate with room for an intelligent debate. Ergo, It can be in either section.

[PaulyJ]

Yep, i'd agree there Judas. Although Snooker delivers a spectacle of Skill to viewers, once you know what can be expected of a top Snooker player, the attraction faids. Excitement is squeezed into a few moments at the end of a close game, or when safety shots are at there best.

If you contrast the Atmoshere of a Darts game to a Snooker game, there is the problem

Cricket developed 1 day 50 over's cricket for this very reason, and Chess developed Speed Chess also. Hard to say how Snooker could evolve a faster, more exiting version of itself. But i would love to see it.

[Beastie]

Pool >>>>>> Snooker

[Claymores]

Is tiddlywinks a sport or pastime? Is golf a sport or pastime? Is texas holdem as sport or pastime?

Not everybody can just do these things and even those who do have to practice 70 hours a week to be really good at it.

Is it a physical ability - snooker is certainly not. Is golf? emmmm? Is high jump a physical ability or ability to use a different stick than golfers or snooker players?

Answer my questions