[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Dezzy talks a lot of sense.

he really doesnt

he talks about things he knows **** all about tbh

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Dezzy talks a lot of sense.

Doesn't rather depend on your definition of sense!

[Jords]

I am sure reading through the replies with the majority agreeing will make you feel very good Dezzy!

I have been cyber bullied a few times by somebody I know [hes in my form], darn't say anything to my face and Im not one to kick up a fuss over it because I knew other people would get involved and quite frankly Id feel more awful because he is 'popular'. Like MMI did, I stood up for myself via the internet, he got people involved on there instead whom I didnt know, were they not cyber bullying because I didnt know them? Dont be daft! Sure I shoulda given the pr*ck a good punch but a) its not really me and I know what the consequences would be, everybody getting involved and all and b) wouldnt start the matter face to face because teachers' are gawd dam stupid tbh and would blame me.

Similar thing happened tonight, sure she may not no anybody so it wouldnt carry on in real life but would it anyway? The dude who did it with me never brought it up.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jords

I am sure reading through the replies with the majority agreeing will make you feel very good Dezzy!

I have been cyber bullied a few times by somebody I know [hes in my form], darn't say anything to my face and Im not one too kick up a fuss over it because I knew other people would get involved and quite frankly Id feel more awful because he is 'popular'. Like MMI did, I stood up for myself via the internet, he got people involved on there instead whom I didnt know, were they not cyber bulling because I didnt know them? Dont be daft! Sure I shoulda given the pr*ck a good punch but a) its not really me and I know what the consequences would be, everybody getting involved and all and b) wouldnt start the matter face to face because teachers' are gawd dam stupid tbh and would blame me.

Similar thing happened tonight, sure she may not no anybody so it wouldnt carry on in real life but would it anyway? The dude who did it with me never brought it up.

I'm sorry to hear about that but that corroborates with my main point that cyber bullying has a link to RL bullying. Sure he didn't bother you in RL but because you knew him it made it a whole lot worse then if you didn't. I'm not saying that Cyber Bullying doesn't exist I'm just saying that it's rare from complete strangers with no links. There's ussually always a RL link somewhere.

[Stacey.]

Dezzy talks as if he knows everything.
like some other members i could point out, but will choose not to.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

Dezzy talks as if he knows everything.
like some other members i could point out, but will choose not to.

exactly

just look at the real world threads

[Patrick]

Tonight was not Cyber Bullying yes, however it does go on and things people say ON HERE can make you feel bad.

[Tom4784]

As for ILoveDC, I'm not gonna rise to you, if you want to argue with me then go for the points I make since personal attacks will only make you a hypocrite considering the subject at hand.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

As for ILoveDC, I'm not gonna rise to you, if you want to argue with me then go for the points I make since personal attacks will only make you a hypocrite considering the subject at hand.

you dont have to rise ive already lowered to your level

[andybigbro]

How can you not say it was cyber bullying?

More than 5 Members ganged up on 1 member and ridiculed and poked fun at them.

Throughout school, i was told that when a series of people gang up on someone and make them feel inferior and ridicule them, then this is classed as bullying.

Bullying is not only physical, its mental as well. So just because you havent "punched" or "kicked" does not mean anything because you have mentally attacked in a group. Which is one of the worst forms of bullying.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

How can you not say it was cyber bullying?

More than 5 Members ganged up on 1 member and ridiculed and poked fun at them.

Throughout school, i was told that when a series of people gang up on someone and make them feel inferior and ridicule them, then this is classed as bullying.

Bullying is not only physical, its mental as well. So just because you havent "punched" or "kicked" does not mean anything because you have mentally attacked in a group. Which is one of the worst forms of bullying.

You've missed my point entirely..... you know what I'm repeating myself here. Random 'abuse' off the internet from people you have NO LINKS to is not going to affect you, if it was anywhere else you'd just delete and block them and be doen with it. The fact that she made such a big deal out of it proves that it wasn't bullying. People who feel bullied don't stick up for themselves.

In this case she was just loving the attention.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

This message is hidden because ILoveDC is on your ignore list.

Such a glorious sight, If anyone REALLY does feel intimidated or gets abuse from any members then just put them on ignore.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This message is hidden because Dezzy is on your ignore list.

whats that you say

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Such a glorious sight, If anyone REALLY does feel intimidated or gets abuse from any members then just put them on ignore.

What good is that - when you know everyone else is reading it and any nasty, slanderous remarks they may be making! Then people can't even attempt to defend themselves! Pointless!!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

What good is that - when you know everyone else is reading it and any nasty, slanderous remarks they may be making! Then people can't even attempt to defend themselves! Pointless!!

What a ridiculous point, it's the internet, we don't know each other if you block someone who cares what they say afterwards because it won't affect you in any way. It's not like real life where it's not easy to block it all out but you can here. Who cares what they say after you block them anyway?

If anyone took what happened last night seriously then they should really look at themselves, It was a topic full of song lyrics and impersonations, if anyone really took offense at that then how the hell do you expect to cope with real life? To be fair I'm guessing that most of the people jumping on the morale brigrade are just trying to score brownie points. The fact that anyone thinks last night was bullying is ridiculous and it does nothing but belittle the effect and victims of real bullying.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People who feel bullied don't stick up for themselves.

I'm sorry - but I have to disagree with you on this big time! I would love to get the opinion of an expert in human behaviour - as I would bet big money that they would dispute that! People who feel bullied can and do stick up for themselves!

[Jords]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I'm sorry - but I have to disagree with you on this big time! I would love to get the opinion of an expert in human behaviour - as I would bet big money that they would dispute that! People who feel bullied can and do stick up for themselves!

I did!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I'm sorry - but I have to disagree with you on this big time! I would love to get the opinion of an expert in human behaviour - as I would bet big money that they would dispute that! People who feel bullied can and do stick up for themselves!

But not always, Victims of bullying will often remain silent on the matter at least until they reach breaking point, the point is if MMAI felt as bullied as everybody said she was then she probably wouldn't have been as theatrical in the leaving thread and stuff. She'd have just stopped coming here which leads me to believe she wanted attention.

Which everybody taking the moral high road has given her in abundance.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But not always, Victims of bullying will often remain silent on the matter at least until they reach breaking point, the point is if MMAI felt as bullied as everybody said she was then she probably wouldn't have been as theatrical in the leaving thread and stuff. She'd have just stopped coming here which leads me to believe she wanted attention.

Which everybody taking the moral high road has given her in abundance.

No victims of bullying don't always stick up for themselves - but many do! It isn't whether or not they stand up for themselves that defines whether they are being bullied or not!

I have seen much worse attention-seeking behaviour from Stephanie - and she wasn't treated like that!

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've missed my point entirely..... you know what I'm repeating myself here. Random 'abuse' off the internet from people you have NO LINKS to is not going to affect you, if it was anywhere else you'd just delete and block them and be doen with it. The fact that she made such a big deal out of it proves that it wasn't bullying. People who feel bullied don't stick up for themselves.

In this case she was just loving the attention.

Just because it may not affect you, does not mean to say it does not affect other people.

[Z]

There was a long period of time when I felt like I was being victimised on here; but never bullied. And that in itself was only because I had to put up with a group of members who were all friends actively disliking me and picking arguments with me. MeMyselfAndI having her avatar copied by a few people for half an hour, for a laugh, doesn't even compare to that. That's all I have to say on the matter.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Zee

There was a long period of time when I felt like I was being victimised on here; but never bullied. And that in itself was only because I had to put up with a group of members who were all friends actively disliking me and picking arguments with me. MeMyselfAndI having her avatar copied by a few people for half an hour, for a laugh, doesn't even compare to that. That's all I have to say on the matter.

Greg, This is not th eonly incident though. I have witnessed MM&I get victimised in the past.
They always poke fun at her.

[Z]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Greg, This is not th eonly incident though. I have witnessed MM&I get victimised in the past.
They always poke fun at her.

I guess it depends on how you view things. I'm a laidback person, I see things in a laidback way. Factoring in MMAI's age, it would certainly feel like bullying to her and nobody could blame her for that; it's not nice to have a bandwagon against you - but at the same time, this specific incident really wasn't bullying in any way, in my eyes, it was people playing a wind up.

I wouldn't say I was being bullied though Jords, because I could click off the forum at any time - and did so, I left here for a while, came back and, thankfully, the ringleader of that particular gang had disappeared. I did so without a massive drama, just one day I logged off and never came back. I wasn't much older than MMAI at the time, either. People deal with these things in different ways; it ultimately comes down to how the member responds to the situation. I had NOBODY on my side when I was getting attacked every time I posted.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Zee

I guess it depends on how you view things. I'm a laidback person, I see things in a laidback way. Factoring in MMAI's age, it would certainly feel like bullying to her and nobody could blame her for that; it's not nice to have a bandwagon against you - but at the same time, this specific incident really wasn't bullying in any way, in my eyes, it was people playing a wind up.

I wouldn't say I was being bullied though Jords, because I could click off the forum at any time - and did so, I left here for a while, came back and, thankfully, the ringleader of that particular gang had disappeared. I did so without a massive drama, just one day I logged off and never came back. I wasn't much older than MMAI at the time, either. People deal with these things in different ways; it ultimately comes down to how the member responds to the situation. I had NOBODY on my side when I was getting attacked every time I posted.

Surely if you have witnessed similar activity , you would feel sympathetic towards the situation. Thats exactly why I do.
I do believe that members on here poke fun at her to upset her and get pleasure out of it, which I'm sorry, its classed as bullying.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Zee

I guess it depends on how you view things. I'm a laidback person, I see things in a laidback way. Factoring in MMAI's age, it would certainly feel like bullying to her and nobody could blame her for that; it's not nice to have a bandwagon against you - but at the same time, this specific incident really wasn't bullying in any way, in my eyes, it was people playing a wind up.

I wouldn't say I was being bullied though Jords, because I could click off the forum at any time - and did so, I left here for a while, came back and, thankfully, the ringleader of that particular gang had disappeared. I did so without a massive drama, just one day I logged off and never came back. I wasn't much older than MMAI at the time, either. People deal with these things in different ways; it ultimately comes down to how the member responds to the situation. I had NOBODY on my side when I was getting attacked every time I posted.

But as Patrick said - why should you feel forced to switch off and leave the forum - you hadn't done anything wrong! The fact that you did - implies bullying! You dealt with it differently - but the way you were made to feel is the same! Bullying is about the behaviour of those ganging up on people - it isn't about how the 'victim' handles it!