[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

i dont think they so much as overlooked them i think they were just fairly minor events that probably would have made the cut on most HL shows but tonight was a packed show there were just bigger events to cover.
and i dont think anyone pushes the army angle although it is obviousley still a big part of steves character.

It's a tough one for bb really when you think of it, I mean it's great that it highlights the suffering of so many young men today that are at the begining of a long hard road to semi recovery, and bb need to be applauded for having the guts to go with it. I would like to think that they would have discussed all this with steve, who would obviously have given the ok considering his work with the young injured soldiers coming back from abroad each day.


But,i can see it all ending on a sour note for steve, and thats who I worry about.

Perhaps steve could have just come in for a week long task or something.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Steve may be dull but he's not aggressive or nasty to other HMs. He generally keeps himself to himself. He had one rant during the bedroom incident. Big deal. Considering his age and what he's been through Im staggered he hasn't blown a fuse many other times over the petty nonsense in the house.

JJ and Nathan rant and swear all the time. Steve does it once and suddenly he's a nasty man. Er, no, he's actually incredibly tolerant in a house full of shallow young people.

That said, he's not an exciting or relevant HM as he isn't really involved in any storylines. His disabilities and age do put him on the sidelines somewhat. Not all his fault.

Either way, be respectful to his injuries because they are very REAL and impacting on his life, still. Unlike JJs school bullying which he should get the **** over already.

Well said!

[Fuzzylogic]

Injuries or not, to me Steve is a boring housemate. Nice guy, but he doesn't entertain me.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by wombai

well said!

he does have a good bitch behind peoples backs at times.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by beso

he does have a good bitch behind peoples backs at times.

Unlike the rest of them! No one is claiming he is a saint - just one of the nicer, more genuine hms!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Unlike the rest of them! No one is claiming he is a saint - just one of the nicer, more genuine hms!

we're not discussing the rest of them.

He is genuine, but is also a bit short tempered and stubborn, remember the building the key task and how he snapped and ordered everyone around. If that had been anyone else there would have been arguments in the house and forum slatings abound.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by beso

we're not discussing the rest of them.

He is genuine, but is also a bit short tempered and stubborn, remember the building the key task and how he snapped and ordered everyone around. If that had been anyone else there would have been arguments in the house and forum slatings abound.

They respect him more than the others - for a combination of reasons, including his age, disability and general easy-going personality! See nothing wrong with that! He is the authoratative figure in there! If I was on there - I would listen to him, but probably not any of the others, except maybe Dave or Ben! The rest act like a bunch of stupid, shallow kids!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by beso

we're not discussing the rest of them.

He is genuine, but is also a bit short tempered and stubborn, remember the building the key task and how he snapped and ordered everyone around. If that had been anyone else there would have been arguments in the house and forum slatings abound.

Yeah he does seem to be a little stubborn, then again team exercises like that are best done not by debate and committee but by following the advice or plan of someone who has done similar before.

It may have seemed like he was jumping in to control it, and he was, however thats just the way he is, laid back until he feels it necessary to step in. A lot of older people are like that.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Steve's legs have stealth technology to keep him under the radar, he wants to win most of all the HMs I think. I remember he mentioned its a struggle with 8-9 kids however many he has, so 100k would be massive help for him and his family, thats why he is there, he will come alive once get to final few weeks to give himself a shot of winning, but by then someone like Ben, Josie, Corin will be likely winner

[Parmy]

Thats all fair and well, and fine I suppose, but you can still have a go at him if he's older and has his injuries, they are all (or should be) judged as equals, but they are not..It took until the final 4 weeks with mikey from scotland before anyone had the nuts to have a pop at him and his attitude, and that was just rex, I don't want to see all that again, I wan't to see how steve reacts when someone snipes back at him. I fear it won't happen though.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by beso

Thats all fair and well, and fine I suppose, but you can still have a go at him if he's older and has his injuries, they are all (or should be) judged as equals, but they are not..It took until the final 4 weeks with mikey from scotland before anyone had the nuts to have a pop at him and his attitude, and that was just rex, I don't want to see all that again, I wan't to see how steve reacts when someone snipes back at him. I fear it won't happen though.

You never know, thing is even if you watch live feed while the housemates are up and about, you still wont see or hear everything that happens in the house, just what the producers decide to stream.

Consequently we dont really know if the comments about him being like a father are genuinely because he is that way or simply because of his age and maturity.

[Frank E]

Originally Posted by beso

Because it seems on here that you can't have a negative view point on steve because he has injuries from his time in the army!

No there are a wide range of opinions expressed on this forum and other BB forums about Steve so I don't think the above point is valid.

I've said a fair bit about some choices in his lifestyle (doesn't fancy sitting at a desk, 8 children, tattoos before mobility aids ...) and no one has pulled me up on it.

The Housemates may be including Steve as a Godwin clause to manipulate other HMs or strengthen their arguments.

Dave asking for public pledge on television for legs for Steve
Corin in Diary Room "They moved Steve's mattress"
Nathan "you damaged Steve's medical equipment"

Corin's statement stood out the most as she hasn't in my limited viewing stepped into disputes and favoured one side.

Are many other HMs going to use Steves name to manipulate?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

Steve's legs have stealth technology to keep him under the radar, he wants to win most of all the HMs I think. I remember he mentioned its a struggle with 8-9 kids however many he has, so 100k would be massive help for him and his family, thats why he is there, he will come alive once get to final few weeks to give himself a shot of winning, but by then someone like Ben, Josie, Corin will be likely winner

They will all want to win increasingly as they get nearer to the final. Steve has more genuine need for the money than the others. Not saying that he should win but its not a crime for him to want to provide for his huge family and also buy disability equipment to make life a bit easier.

I dont think he will win but I still hope he makes money somehow. He's putting his disabilities out there for all to gawp at and showing that life can still be worth living even when half your body is blown up. Which makes him a hundred times more worthy than the other shallow fame seekers.

[eviled2010]

Threads about Steve are fine so long as chickenhawks who think it is just dandy to blow up foreigners in other countries with their high tech weapons and have personal family cannon fodder in the army. As soon as they are opposed the threads are closed.
That is not fair or balanced.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by eviled2010

Threads about Steve are fine so long as chickenhawks who think it is just dandy to blow up foreigners in other countries with their high tech weapons and have personal family cannon fodder in the army. As soon as they are opposed the threads are closed.
That is not fair or balanced.

Don't be so ignorant...

[eviled2010]

Ignorant? How ironic!

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by eviled2010

Ignorant? How ironic!

You are being both ignorant & offensive on matters you clearly don't know a great deal about...

[SoFarSoGood282]

I just see him as Steve the very dull HM....
How he got injured has nothing to do with BB!

[eviled2010]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

You are being both ignorant & offensive on matters you clearly don't know a great deal about...

The irony is I am the one actually asking for these guys to be brought home from a purely imperialist war, to the safety of their own country.
You on the other hand are willing to fight to the last drop of their blood for your imagined safety.
I am just at a loss that there is anyone left out there that think these guys are doing anything other than killing Afghans or Iraqis for noble reasons.
Un fekkin believable idiots!!

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by eviled2010

The irony is I am the one actually asking for these guys to be brought home from a purely imperialist war, to the safety of their own country.
You on the other hand are willing to fight to the last drop of their blood for your imagined safety.
I am just at a loss that there is anyone left out there that think these guys are doing anything other than killing Afghans or Iraqis for noble reasons.
Un fekkin believable idiots!!

I didn't say I agree with the war in Iraq & Afghanistan, I agree that our troops should be bought home... I never said otherwise...

What I think is offensive is that you know a forum member has a relative out there & you are mocking it & basically baiting them about it, that is not cool or clever...

[eviled2010]

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood282

I just see him as Steve the very dull HM....
How he got injured has nothing to do with BB!

Well you might think that, but certain people are using him to support illegal wars and brandishing resistance fighters as terrorists. I doubt even Steve would like that.

[eviled2010]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I didn't say I agree with the war in Iraq & Afghanistan, I agree that our troops should be bought home... I never said otherwise...

What I think is offensive is that you know a forum member has a relative out there & you are mocking it & basically baiting them about it, that is not cool or clever...

Ok, thanks for bringing a note of civility.
That forum member you mention (who I think you mean) attacked me from my very first post on this issue a few days ago...insults and heckling and the thread got closed.
I am afraid when it comes to the deaths of innocent people, the feelings of a forum member who promotes the military in its illegal wars come pretty low down on my list of sensitivities.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by eviled2010

The irony is I am the one actually asking for these guys to be brought home from a purely imperialist war, to the safety of their own country.
You on the other hand are willing to fight to the last drop of their blood for your imagined safety.
I am just at a loss that there is anyone left out there that think these guys are doing anything other than killing Afghans or Iraqis for noble reasons.
Un fekkin believable idiots!!

Whether or not you feel the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq are just or not, simple common sense should tell you, you cant just pull out the troops and bring them home. Any sort of withdrawal has to be carried out over an extended period.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by eviled2010

Threads about Steve are fine so long as chickenhawks who think it is just dandy to blow up foreigners in other countries with their high tech weapons and have personal family cannon fodder in the army. As soon as they are opposed the threads are closed.
That is not fair or balanced.

thats one huge chip you have on your shoulder there it must get very tiring carrying that about with you everywhere you go.
i think you should grow up your the one that once again has dragged this topic down into the gutter and tried to make it personal shame on you your parents must be so proud

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by eviled2010

Well you might think that, but certain people are using him to support illegal wars and brandishing resistance fighters as terrorists. I doubt even Steve would like that.

Resistance fighters? Oh you mean members of proscribed organisations, defined under UN listings?