[GuiltyPleasure]

Hero1 it seems you're on you own on this one.

[Parmy]

The facts are that josie AND john are aware of what keeva said, and don't hold it against her because they know she was doing it for the good.

I agree with you it was a shame that we didn't get any further in the story, but it's just a minor set back, the josie jj story has got a long way to run yet. It's just a shame to me that keeva is being blamed for purposefully trying to hijack the blossoming relationship when all she was trying to do was save Josies blushes like a true friend would. When you get replies such as RUBBISH and stuff like that when you know all the facts gets really tiresome.But i'll bite the bullet and apologise for my ranty replies to you, you seem to have the same wishes regarding these two as myself.

[Claymores]

Shake hands you two or I'll bash yer heids together

[Julesuk]

Come on what bloke after being told that a girl doesnt fancy him is going to admit that he fancies them especially one like John who seems to have very little self esteem, been watching the body language and I think he fancies her, he also admitted he fancied her at first, but he isnt being any different with her (not until now). Keeva has a lot to play in this and I think she has the hots for him she is no real friend of Josie or John if she kept out of the way for a while they may sort things out themselves.

[watchinittoomuch]

I dont like Kevin much, she played Shabby and she's got stuck right in to some of the people in there (never face on though)....BUT...I dont think in this particular situation she had any other choice. It's not her place to reveal Josie's feelings.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

I dont like Kevin much, she played Shabby and she's got stuck right in to some of the people in there (never face on though)....BUT...I dont think in this particular situation she had any other choice. It's not her place to reveal Josie's feelings.

She's had a pop at a couple of them face on, namely dave and ife.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She's had a pop at a couple of them face on, namely dave and ife.

What, the bitchy stuff?

I've seen her have words with Dave about the religion debate, and have words with Ife, but from what I've seen she keeps the nasty back for bitching.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

What, the bitchy stuff?

I've seen her have words with Dave about the religion debate, and have words with Ife, but from what I've seen she keeps the nasty back for bitching.

Don't they all though, you can't just single out keeva(please don't bring any gaga names for her onto here) for that.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Don't they all though, you can't just single out keeva(please don't bring any gaga names for her onto here) for that.

This thread is about Kevin, which is why I'm talking about her specifically....and that's what I refer to her as.

[stoney]

2 emotional cripples being "helped" by a nasty sneaky horrid "friend"

[Blueisthecolour]

I only watched the highlights show, but I thought it gave a fair enough picture of what happened - according to people who did see the live feed.

Caiomhe did make a complete balls of it, but I don't think it was malicious.

She gave John the impression that Josie really wasn't interested, so he responded the same way - as you would.

He then tried to speak to Josie about it but she was hurt and didn't want to reveal her position. He tried to get her to give him a clue so he didn't make a plonker of himself, but she was scared of making a plonker of herself so they got nowhere.

She has reacted badly by going into a sulk from what I can see.

It's fairly obvious that they both feel the same way about each other but neither of them wants to go out on a limb.

I think Caoimhe was put in a difficult position because Josie's behaviour had made it obvious to John that there was a problem. If Josie had acted normally he wouldn't have suspected anything.

It's all a bit 13 year olds in the playground at the moment.

But it isn't helped by the fact that neither of them is emotionally secure enough to make the first move.

I think they will get together eventually but not until they are outside the house.

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour

I only watched the highlights show, but I thought it gave a fair enough picture of what happened - according to people who did see the live feed.

Caiomhe did make a complete balls of it, but I don't think it was malicious.

She gave John the impression that Josie really wasn't interested, so he responded the same way - as you would.

He then tried to speak to Josie about it but she was hurt and didn't want to reveal her position. He tried to get her to give him a clue so he didn't make a plonker of himself, but she was scared of making a plonker of herself so they got nowhere.

She has reacted badly by going into a sulk from what I can see.

It's fairly obvious that they both feel the same way about each other but neither of them wants to go out on a limb.

I think Caoimhe was put in a difficult position because Josie's behaviour had made it obvious to John that there was a problem. If Josie had acted normally he wouldn't have suspected anything.

It's all a bit 13 year olds in the playground at the moment.

But it isn't helped by the fact that neither of them is emotionally secure enough to make the first move.

I think they will get together eventually but not until they are outside the house.

A fair analysis, to be honest I did not catch the very last bit of the pair in the bathroom, my loud mouth sister turned up and demanded we give her our attention to her.

It has to be said, Josie is going off Keeva, and Keeva did not have to bring up the subject at all.

[Blueisthecolour]

Originally Posted by Hero1

A fair analysis, to be honest I did not catch the very last bit of the pair in the bathroom, my loud mouth sister turned up and demanded we give her our attention to her.

The last bit shown in the bathroom was John saying words to the effect that "Oh well, Caiomhe didn't actually tell me what your feeling are???".

He was clearly (to me), trying to get her to give him a vibe - to which he could respond.

But she either misunderstood or chose not to answer because she stood up and walked out at that point.

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour

The last bit shown in the bathroom was John saying words to the effect that "Oh well, Caiomhe didn't actually tell me what your feeling are???".

He was clearly (to me), trying to get her to give him a vibe - to which he could respond.

But she either misunderstood or chose not to answer because she stood up and walked out at that point.

I wish he told her Keeva just told me you do not fancy me, that would have made it an interesting show LOL

[Claymores]

100% Blue - nothing bad from Keeva (where OP went wrong) - the JJ J are too scared to tell true to each other, whether it be love or pals as close male#female can be. If you read my summary above Keeva was a non-player, it's them

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Claymores

100% Blue - nothing bad from Keeva (where OP went wrong) - the JJ J are too scared to tell true to each other, whether it be love or pals as close male#female can be. If you read my summary above Keeva was a non-player, it's them

If JJ and Josie are too scared to tell each other, I do not know how Keeva made it her business to tell him a lie, she could have just stated she truly does not know what Josie feels about him and it is best for them to take their time and sort it out between themselves.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Hero1

If JJ and Josie are too scared to tell each other, I do not know how Keeva made it her business to tell him a lie, she could have just stated she truly does not know what Josie feels about him and it is best for them to take their time and sort it out between themselves.

Nobody wants to put themself out there tho.........Josie felt an idiot, JJ was told sho only likes you as a pal - from a shy male perspective I'd have done a JJ

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Nobody wants to put themself out there tho.........Josie felt an idiot, JJ was told sho only likes you as a pal - from a shy male perspective I'd have done a JJ

anyone would, I mean if someone said asked you if you fancied someone who you'd just been told didn't fancy you, you're not likely to say yeah I do!

[Claymores]

HERO - You started the thread dissing keeva tho which is where I thought FM fight started

I hope I was being more middle and seeing what I saw LF

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Claymores

HERO - You started the thread dissing keeva tho which is where I thought FM fight started

Yes, and, I still believe Keeva opened her gob and said something damaging. It was more to do with JJ's disheartened reaction and then claiming in a defensive manner he did not fancy her either.

I have not taken anything back, really, well apart from the fact they poster who attacked me claimed Josie knows about it now.

On the whole bathroom incident, I still believe Keeva had no business to poke her nose in and blab and lie.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Hero1

Yes, and, I still believe Keeva opened her gob and said something damaging. It was more to do with JJ's disheartened reaction and then claiming in a defensive manner he did not fancy her either.

I have not taken anything back, really, well apart from the fact they poster who attacked me claimed Josie knows about it now.

On the whole bathroom incident, I still believe Keeva had no business to poke her nose in and blab and lie.

and apologised for...but thanks for acknowledging that fact. I now know what sort of poster i'm dealing with in the future.

[stoney]

the "plan" rachel made with Caoimhe was to discuss relationships but NOT to bring Josie's and JJ's one in at first to try to get the general vibe from him.

She just blurted out that Josie did not fancy him before JJ hid and said that he has NEVER thought that way about her.

Caoimhe loved every minute of wrecking the showmance cos it would have left her with only wee andrew to talk with

[Hero1]

Maybe I think this way because I have done counselling before and know the importance of being all ears, helping one discover what they want to do by themselves without giving any advise..as the advise can be wrong and resented over time, keeping stom with all the information one has given out, and not even telling ones family.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Hero1

Maybe I think this way because I have done counselling before and know the importance of being all ears, helping one discover what they want to do by themselves without giving any advise..as the advise can be wrong and resented over time, keeping stom with all the information one has given out, and not even telling ones family.

Yeah I have to agree with you here really, Caoimhe shouldn't have said anything at all, I really do think she was trying to help but it wasn't at all helpful in the end

[Parmy]

One things for certain, there was nothing malicious about keevas actions, her sad face when he said he had no feelings for josie said more than a thousand words..ps, hardy ****ing har har ife, lost her prize from bob righter.