[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

There was another thread on this but it got terribly sidetracked and was closed before I got to it so I opened this one to discuss the matter.

First of all, walking past a bomb and getting blown up does not make you a hero. That is an insult to the real heroes of the world. I would consider someone who did something exceptionally brave or someone who is solely responsible for saving another person's life in a crisis a hero. Walking past a barrel does not make you a hero just desperately unlucky.

Secondly, to those who say the fact he joined the forces in the first place makes him a hero as he was risking his life for freedom - he was fighting in Northern Ireland, the troubles were not about freedom they were about power and prejudice. Something which is in a way almost proven by how bigoted Steve has shown himself up to be in so many respects.

Brave for joining the army, yes. A hero, absolutely not.

He never was your hero right from the start. But if there were not guys like Steve, you would speak russia or germany right now. And i don't say it because it was WWII, but cowards like you make me puke. Now crawl back behind your keyboards pansy.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

He never was your hero right from the start. But if there were not guys like Steve, you would speak russia or germany right now. And i don't say it because it was WWII, but cowards like you make me puke. Now crawl back behind your keyboards pansy.

I'm sure they say that in - oh wait, plenty of countries speak English. Oh well.

Thankfully others do the fighting, like you said.

Sometimes it's smart to be a coward.

Let the people who want to go to war, go to war. I'll sit at home, scratch my balls, and watch it on the news.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Stu

I'm sure they say that in - oh wait, plenty of countries speak English. Oh well.

Thankfully others do the fighting, like you said.

Sometimes it's smart to be a coward.

Let the people who want to go to war, go to war. I'll sit at home, scratch my balls, and watch it on the news.

Smart to be a coward... LOL Yeah, cowardice is such an attractive and admirable quality.

Luckily there are some people who are willing to go to war so that people like you can sit at home, scratch your balls and watch it on the news.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Smart to be a coward... LOL Yeah, cowardice is such an attractive and admirable quality.

Luckily there are some people who are willing to go to war so that people like you can sit at home, scratch your balls and watch it on the news.

That's basically it, yes.

Now go to war, you coward.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Stu

That's basically it, yes.

Now go to war, you coward.

That doesn't even make any sense.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

That's basically it, yes.

Now go to war, you coward.

Stu, were you there? Livia was defending Steve.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Livia

Smart to be a coward... LOL Yeah, cowardice is such an attractive and admirable quality.

Luckily there are some people who are willing to go to war so that people like you can sit at home, scratch your balls and watch it on the news.

Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom!

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom!

Would love to see if he was so brave if he did live in Iran

[Stu]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom!

I asked Livia for her location so we could duke it out in a boxing ring, but alas no response.

Run along now.

It's the internet, WOMBAI. And it's not as if I haven't had discussions about the military with people face to face before. So what do you suggest I do?

And what does that make you? Coming in for another attack? Also a keyboard warrior?

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by angus58

Well then why not just talk about those characteristics instead of going on about whether or not he's a hero?

Because the point of this thread was to dispel this nonsense others drone on about - even Davina and some of the housemates - to justify how bigotted he is and how nasty he was to Keeley 'because he's a hero'.

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Yes it does. He took the blast that.. if not for his sacrifice.. would have been taken by another.
If not taken by another soldier it would have been used on innocent civilians.
He is a hero.
You are not.
He is a giant and you ought to wish you could have 1/2 the brass balls Steve had in not just taking a blast so others did not but also for the huge character in that guy for coming out a cheerful positive person who doesn't have to belittle others to feel bigger about himself.

As far as I remember, he didn't exactly jump in front of the bomb he was just unlucky in that he happened to be walking along at the wrong time. He didn't 'take the blast' it was forced upon him.

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

He never was your hero right from the start. But if there were not guys like Steve, you would speak russia or germany right now. And i don't say it because it was WWII, but cowards like you make me puke. Now crawl back behind your keyboards pansy.

If you haven't noticed, this is an internet forum, everyone stands behind their keyboards, yourself included. You call me a pansy but are you in the army? I some how doubt that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

There was another thread on this but it got terribly sidetracked and was closed before I got to it so I opened this one to discuss the matter...... etc. etc. etc..................

How lucky are we to have you here! With your in-depth knowledge of bloody everything! And how amazingly intelligent you must be to have the final say on what does and doesn't constitute a hero. You must be so proud of yourself.

[Stu]

You know Steve himself denied hero status on many occasions, right?

But hey, this is the wisdom of someone who needs to let everyone know they have an ignore list. Pow pow, baby!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Stu

You know Steve himself denied hero status on many occasions, right?

But hey, this is the wisdom of someone who needs to let everyone know they have an ignore list. Pow pow, baby!

You are not on my 'ignore list' "baby"... because your ignorance coupled with your astounding sense of self-importance amuses me.

[Stu]

Everytime you scream about teens and social welfare, all the rest of us hear is 'I'm a bitter old bag'.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

Everytime you scream about teens and social welfare, all the rest of us hear is 'I'm a bitter old bag'.

Maybe i should be. After all, i work my arse off every night. What do you do?
But again, i don't have anything against you. And i won't gonna continue fight with you. You are OK.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Maybe i should be. After all, i work my arse off every night. What do you do?
But again, i don't have anything against you. And i won't gonna continue fight with you. You are OK.

I work too, you know. It's this prepostrous assumptive attitude I don't like .

[Braden]

ROFL @ Wombai in this conversation!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Braden

ROFL @ Wombai in this conversation!

Elaborate please!

[MojoNixon]

MrGaryy. Age, location and political orientation please.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

MrGaryy. Age, location and political orientation please.

erm, would you like my bank details while I'm at it?

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

erm, would you like my bank details while I'm at it?

No. But age and political orientation please. And are you teen?. And just please tell me are you immigrant or are you living in Ireland or not. Just simple little question. I ain't no hacker or "spy" or anything, so don't worry. I ain't gonna hack on your computer. Just wanna know if you hate Steve just because he reminds you of your dad or is it political issue.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

No. But age and political orientation please. And are you teen?. And just please tell me are you immigrant or are you living in Ireland or not. Just simple little question. I ain't no hacker or "spy" or anything, so don't worry. I ain't gonna hack on your computer. Just wanna know if you hate Steve just because he reminds you of your dad or is it political issue.

Yes I am a teen, 17 to be precise, with Irish parents if that helps. I'm a Republican but I assure you that is irrelevant with regards to my dislike for Steve. Oh and my dad is a company director of a small chains of restaurants, internet cafes and hostels among other ventures so no, I can't say I see any similarity between my father and Steve.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

Yes I am a teen, 17 to be precise, with Irish parents if that helps. I'm a Republican but I assure you that is irrelevant with regards to my dislike for Steve. Oh and my dad is a company director of a small chains of restaurants, internet cafes and hostels among other ventures so no, I can't say I see any similarity between my father and Steve.

So living with your dad money...too bad you don't know or even understand how it was back then.

[Zippy]

Lol @ Mojo's fixation with teens!

[Stu]

Indeed.