[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

I don't understand why these daddy hatingg teens even use teens are even using Steves background to judge him all the time. All his haters never did do a **** but living with their parents money or social welfare.

Im not a teen im 25.

I havnt lived with my parents since i was 15.

And i have never claimed any sort of benefit.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Yes it does. He took the blast that.. if not for his sacrifice.. would have been taken by another.
If not taken by another soldier it would have been used on innocent civilians.
He is a hero.
You are not.
He is a giant and you ought to wish you could have 1/2 the brass balls Steve had in not just taking a blast so others did not but also for the huge character in that guy for coming out a cheerful positive person who doesn't have to belittle others to feel bigger about himself.

Of course not, keely after all is only 4'11

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Livia

You are not on my 'ignore list' "baby"... because your ignorance coupled with your astounding sense of self-importance amuses me.

I usually find that those intent on pointing out complete strangers sense of self importance tend to be the most self important themselves. I'm glad I provide you with entertainment.

'I HAVE AN IGNORE LIST LOL. I PRBABLY DNT WANT TO TALK TO YOU'.

I was also never aware that admitting cowardice to the prospect of armed combat made one self important. I find it rather humbling.

Originally Posted by Livia

That doesn't even make any sense.

I'm a coward for not wanting to go to war and for admitting that I let other people do it for me [speaking hypopthetically, of course, because I'm not in the UK]. Thing is I admit it.

SO ... are you a coward? After all ... your not going to war, are you? Why not?

I just really don't see the big deal with admitting I'm a coward at the prospect of going to war. Most people are, even if they don't want to admit it. It hardly paints me out to be a coward in all other areas of life.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

That's basically it, yes.

Now go to war, you coward.

Stu, were you there? Livia was defending Steve.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Stu, were you there? Livia was defending Steve.

No wai!

I think I explained in my last post.

[vesavius]

My personal view is that a hero is someone that consciously does something brave and noble in a given situation to serve a higher cause or his comrades.



Becoming a soldier dosent automatically qualify a man for that.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

No wai!

I think I explained in my last post.

Ok, sorry

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Stu

I usually find that those intent on pointing out complete strangers sense of self importance tend to be the most self important themselves. I'm glad I provide you with entertainment.. . etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah...

Actually, you initially answered something I'd posted to someone else... you jumped in with some citicism of me... I was a complete stranger. You've made me a bit of a project and used quote after quote of mine. You're wasting your time really, I have no intension of going backwards and forwards with you I see now that I was over-egging your entertainment value. You use a hell of a lot of words to say virtually nothing.

I refer you to my footer that you find so hilarious, which will save you the bother of ranting away ad nausium, and will save me the bother of reading your tedious posts.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

I just really don't see the big deal with admitting I'm a coward at the prospect of going to war. Most people are, even if they don't want to admit it. It hardly paints me out to be a coward in all other areas of life.

I do understand that. But i don't see any point to dismiss Steve JUST bacause he WAS there. I do understand that Irish pr1cks and teens are hating him (just because they hate their dads) but it is useless to use his background to hate him.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Becoming a soldier dosent automatically qualify a man for that.

Being a serving soldier means you are on the frontline and in a potentially fatal position. Its a dirty job with the ultimate consequences. Somebody has to do it.

I think there is something heroic about that. Theyre sitting ducks and don't get hugely compensated for being such.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by vesavius

My personal view is that a hero is someone that consciously does something brave and noble in a given situation to serve a higher cause or his comrades.



Becoming a soldier dosent automatically qualify a man for that.

This basically, I respect the man for rebuilding and making the most of his life but he is an awful HM.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Livia

You use a hell of a lot of words to say virtually nothing.

Hmm ...

Originally Posted by Livia

Actually, you initially answered something I'd posted to someone else... you jumped in with some citicism of me... I was a complete stranger. You've made me a bit of a project and used quote after quote of mine. You're wasting your time really, I have no intension of going backwards and forwards with you I see now that I was over-egging your entertainment value. You use a hell of a lot of words to say virtually nothing.

I refer you to my footer that you find so hilarious, which will save you the bother of ranting away ad nausium, and will save me the bother of reading your tedious posts.

Yep.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This basically, I respect the man for rebuilding and making the most of his life but he is an awful HM.

Agree 100%

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This basically, I respect the man for rebuilding and making the most of his life but he is an awful HM.

I agree with that.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

I do understand that. But i don't see any point to dismiss Steve JUST bacause he WAS there. I do understand that Irish pr1cks and teens are hating him (just because they hate their dads) but it is useless to use his background to hate him.

But I'm not dismissing him, sweetheart. In fact I originally backed up that Steve already denied he was a hero, and that this topic perhaps was aimed more at OTHERS who consider him a hero.

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Irish pr1cks

See now you are just being a cunt.

Cunt.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Being a serving soldier means you are on the frontline and in a potentially fatal position. Its a dirty job with the ultimate consequences. Somebody has to do it.

I think there is something heroic about that. Theyre sitting ducks and don't get hugely compensated for being such.

But teens don't realize that. They have their ipods and playstations. Isn't world just peace loving place? Only UK soldiers are making it worse....

[Stu]

Everytime you scream about teens and social welfare, all the rest of us hear is 'I'm a bitter old bag'.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Being a serving soldier means you are on the frontline and in a potentially fatal position. Its a dirty job with the ultimate consequences. Somebody has to do it.

I think there is something heroic about that. Theyre sitting ducks and don't get hugely compensated for being such.

Thats a valid way of seeing it, I get where your coming from.

I personally just don't being a career soldier makes you a hero... it earns you my respect and my thanks, but the word 'hero' has become overused and devalued I think.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

See now you are just being a cunt.

Cunt.

So who did blow him up then? But don't get me wrong, i don't hate Ireland.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

But teens don't realize that. They have their ipods and playstations. Isn't world just peace loving place? Only UK soldiers are making it worse....

Mojo, please... I am obviously not a teen and am making a valid point.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Thats a valid way of seeing it, I get where your coming from.

I personally just don't being a career soldier makes you a hero... it earns you my respect and my thanks, but the word 'hero' has become overused and devalued I think.

This is my view.

Also, going back to MojoNixon and his use of the term 'Irish pr1cks', I think this is why many of us have our doubts about Steve. He seems like the person who off camera would say things like that.

A bit of a MojoNixon, if you will.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Stu

Everytime you scream about teens and social welfare, all the rest of us hear is 'I'm a bitter old bag'.

Maybe i should be. After all, i work my arse off every night. What do you do?
But again, i don't have anything against you. And i won't gonna continue fight with you. You are OK.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

So who did blow him up then? But don't get me wrong, i don't hate Ireland.

Terrorists blew him up. I don't see what nationality has to do with it. They are Irish terrorists, yes, but the English have not all recently become a nation of pr1cks becuase Raoul Moat done a nut.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Mojo, please... I am obviously not a teen and am making a valid point.

No you don't. I remeber you Che Guevara avatar, so i do know EXACTLY what you are thinking.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Maybe i should be. After all, i work my arse off every night. What do you do?
But again, i don't have anything against you. And i won't gonna continue fight with you. You are OK.

I work too, you know. It's this prepostrous assumptive attitude I don't like .