[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jords

When Josie admitted her feelings to John James that she does fancy him, he did not directly tell her that he does not feel the same way and only sees her as a very good friend. INSTEAD, he lets the public know that he doesnt like her like that via the diary room, but Josie is unaware so that she still gives him attention, in order to get air time. And if it was to come out and Josie got hurt, his teeny boppers fans wouldnt see him in the wrong because hes admitted his feelings, ignoring the fact it wasnt to Josie.

He got around Josie finding out this with Caoimhe when he told her she has strong feelings for him like he does with her, but made out the strong feelings were not in a fancy way but very much a sibling way from both sides, when he knows very well this is not the case but he doesnt want to be seen in bad light by showing he understands Josie's real feelings but not telling her straight - acting innocent and unaware basically.

Im not a fan of Josie that much anymore, as Ive seen her be very jelous, selfish and bitchy recently, however, I dont find it nice that shes being lead on and could potentially get hurt by it. This is a similar situation to Noirin last year except John James is doing it to the 1 girl whereas Noirin got around with the men in BB10, I find it unfair how hes not being picked up for it, Noirin was hated...

Doesn't she do his washing for him as well - his own little house frau - he needs to keep her sweet for now!

[troy4783]

i think he is a bit

[Stacey.]

He wants her friendship though and he's afraid if he tells her that he doesn't actually 'fancy' her or whatever, they'll just have a fallout or something. But then in the diary room and where Josie's not around, he's being honest. It's not leading her on, he doesn't want to lose their friendship. He loves her in like a sister way as he has said previously, they'll never make a couple and have a relationship outside of the house.

[Sticks]

How many of you here remember BB2

This seems like de ja vu because what is being said here is exactly what was said about one Paul clarke.

He was accused of leading Helen Adams on, yet when they were on the outside they were together for five years before Helen actually ended it.

Paul Clarke turned out to be genuine back then but to some seemed that he was playing a game because he was aware of the cameras.

How can you be intimate and discuss private things with electronic peeping Toms around?

All these glances at cameras can have more than one interpretation and so it was with Paul Clarke, who admitted to wanting to go round and smash every last one. The cameras forced both Paul and Helen to hold back.

Admittedly later couples in later BB's seemed to go full throttle, but they were from the UK and would have been aware of what happened with Paul and Helen, and a case for fakeness could be made.

John James is from Australia and therefore may not have come across the Helen and Paul case study.

Until they are both outside of this goldfish bowl it is not really possible to make a judgement.

I have therefore voted that this is for real based on what happened with the Paul and Helen case study and how Paul was unfairly villified whilst in the house. I wish Romantic Old Bird was still alive because it would have been interesting to hear what she would have made on this pairing.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Sticks

How many of you here remember BB2

This seems like de ja vu because what is being said here is exactly what was said about one Paul clarke.

He was accused of leading Helen Adams on, yet when they were on the outside they were together for five years before Helen actually ended it.

Paul Clarke turned out to be genuine back then but to some seemed that he was playing a game because he was aware of the cameras.

How can you be intimate and discuss private things with electronic peeping Toms around?

All these glances at cameras can have more than one interpretation and so it was with Paul Clarke, who admitted to wanting to go round and smash every last one. The cameras forced both Paul and Helen to hold back.

Admittedly later couples in later BB's seemed to go full throttle, but they were from the UK and would have been aware of what happened with Paul and Helen, and a case for fakeness could be made.

John James is from Australia and therefore may not have come across the Helen and Paul case study.

Until they are both outside of this goldfish bowl it is not really possible to make a judgement.

I have therefore voted that this is for real based on what happened with the Paul and Helen case study and how Paul was unfairly villified whilst in the house. I wish Romantic Old Bird was still alive because it would have been interesting to hear what she would have made on this pairing.

I dare say - she would have lived up to her user name - and saw romance - what does that prove?

[ange7]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I dare say - she would have lived up to her user name - and saw romance - what does that prove?

work it out Sherlock.
They were accused of having a fake romance but it lasted five years after the show. Join the dots mate.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ange7

work it out Sherlock.
They were accused of having a fake romance but it lasted five years after the show. Join the dots mate.

Why don't stop joining the wrong dots mate! That doesn't mean this case is the same - it may of been genuine in that case, doesn't mean the same applies here! Guesswork!

BB2 was a lot more genuine and real back then - and not the farce bb has become today! Everything today is contrived - including their 'romance'!

[James]

Originally Posted by Sticks

How many of you here remember BB2

This seems like de ja vu because what is being said here is exactly what was said about one Paul clarke.

He was accused of leading Helen Adams on, yet when they were on the outside they were together for five years before Helen actually ended it.

Paul Clarke turned out to be genuine back then but to some seemed that he was playing a game because he was aware of the cameras.

How can you be intimate and discuss private things with electronic peeping Toms around?

All these glances at cameras can have more than one interpretation and so it was with Paul Clarke, who admitted to wanting to go round and smash every last one. The cameras forced both Paul and Helen to hold back.

Admittedly later couples in later BB's seemed to go full throttle, but they were from the UK and would have been aware of what happened with Paul and Helen, and a case for fakeness could be made.

John James is from Australia and therefore may not have come across the Helen and Paul case study.

Until they are both outside of this goldfish bowl it is not really possible to make a judgement.

I have therefore voted that this is for real based on what happened with the Paul and Helen case study and how Paul was unfairly villified whilst in the house. I wish Romantic Old Bird was still alive because it would have been interesting to hear what she would have made on this pairing.

Yes, it reminds me of Helen and Paul - and what was said about them at the time - too.

I think we need the Cyber Devil's Advocate out of retirement.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

It's not leading her on, he doesn't want to lose their friendship. He loves her in like a sister way as he has said previously,

Are you serious? How can you say he's not leading her on when they are always under the duvet whispering sweet nothings? Telling her he loves her? You dont think all that is making her think he has fallen for her?

Yeah Im sure she just feels like his sister!

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

He wants her friendship though and he's afraid if he tells her that he doesn't actually 'fancy' her or whatever, they'll just have a fallout or something. But then in the diary room and where Josie's not around, he's being honest. It's not leading her on, he doesn't want to lose their friendship. He loves her in like a sister way as he has said previously, they'll never make a couple and have a relationship outside of the house.

Agree
Josie keeps taking it to a new level every time she talks to Corin and forgets JJ1 telling her he sees their relationship as being like Keeva and shabby's. After she heard that, no amount of "I don't want to hurt you" lines form JJ1 would make it any clearer.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Jords

When Josie admitted her feelings to John James that she does fancy him, he did not directly tell her that he does not feel the same way and only sees her as a very good friend. INSTEAD, he lets the public know that he doesnt like her like that via the diary room, but Josie is unaware so that she still gives him attention, in order to get air time. And if it was to come out and Josie got hurt, his teeny boppers fans wouldnt see him in the wrong because hes admitted his feelings, ignoring the fact it wasnt to Josie.

He got around Josie finding out this with Caoimhe when he told her she has strong feelings for him like he does with her, but made out the strong feelings were not in a fancy way but very much a sibling way from both sides, when he knows very well this is not the case but he doesnt want to be seen in bad light by showing he understands Josie's real feelings but not telling her straight - acting innocent and unaware basically.

Im not a fan of Josie that much anymore, as Ive seen her be very jelous, selfish and bitchy recently, however, I dont find it nice that shes being lead on and could potentially get hurt by it. This is a similar situation to Noirin last year except John James is doing it to the 1 girl whereas Noirin got around with the men in BB10, I find it unfair how hes not being picked up for it, Noirin was hated...

"he did not directly tell her that he does not feel the same way and only sees her as a very good friend"
Disagree He's told her and others loads of times. He is trapped and doesn't want to hurt her. The last time he brought up the subject by comparing him and her to Keeva and shabby... that blew up in his face but that IS how he sees it. Josie's convos with Corin, despite hearing JJ1's comparing their relationship to keeva and shabby's, shows how deluded she is. Corin, fueling Josie's delusions, isn't helping. Corin's "help" never does. Corin "helped" Josie when Josie wanted to know if she was over-reacting with the whole Keeva hate thing. Corin helped her hate more. Corin's advice to Keeva mainly involved Corin talking of how the public and her bf would judge her. That helped Keeva out the door. Corin's "help" also worked a charm for Laura. On seeing Corin approach after Laura had talked to BB in the DR Laura said "oH!!!..ffs!"... as in oh not her again!
Josie needs to stop listening to Corin and needs to remember what JJ1 has said to her.

[housemate]

I think its hilarious, he is a walking contradiction in every respect!
He has studied 'the form' and is running with whichever popularity-boosting statedgy he can equate to any given situation.
He had it easy forl the entire time upto the moment Sam went in and now has no idea which 'road' to take .. BECAUSE there has never been a HM like Sam.
If he attacks Sam he runs the risk of seeming to be a humourless Bully so he has been laughing along with the onslaughts whilst maintaining that Sam is a 'good guy really, he doesn't mean it'
The whole charade is crashing down on Johns lil' head, whats worse for John is that his young fan base may just decide that Sam is not only 'cute' but that his humour and 'sticking it to' the older HMs', makes him more attractive than mere good looks!
John should be very very worried .. I think he has met his match!

[Mystic Mock]

i think sometimes he likes josie and othertimes his using josie so im unsure.

[frankie]

I think Josie is manipulating John James - he has wanted to leave a few times to stop her being upset but she persists and won't let it drop. She tells hiim to shutup everytime he tries to tell her he doesn't feel the same way and has taken mikes off to talk to him. She is telling him to go along with it for votes - I KNOW IT! Don't be fooled by the innocent girl she pretends to be - she is fake.

[WOMBAI]

[QUOTE=frankie;3599811]I think Josie is manipulating John James - he has wanted to leave a few times to stop her being upset but she persists and won't let it drop. She tells hiim to shutup everytime he tries to tell her he doesn't feel the same way and has taken mikes off to talk to him. She is telling him to go along with it for votes - I KNOW IT! Don't be fooled by the innocent girl she pretends to be - she is fake.[/QUOTE]

She is - and making a total fool of herself in the process! A part of me feels embarrassed for her - but a bigger part feels embarrassed about her!

Where is the strong, independent woman we hoped for - instead we got a weak, clingy, jealous, dependent little fool - with nothing but romance in her silly head!

[frankie]

Yippee - someone who thinks the same as me. Totally agree with everything you said. She is embarrasing us girls. Started out great and now a total idiot who follows JJ around like a silly little school girl. Take the hint - he doesn't fancy you and let it be!!

[frankie]

Josie knows exactly what she is doing. Do you really think she is that niave? She totally rejected him whenever he was upset and told him to stop talking about thiings and took his mike off to tell him what she didn't want us to know - she is a fake. She is manipulating him into going along with her to win it! You can't seriously not see through this?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by frankie

Josie knows exactly what she is doing. Do you really think she is that niave? She totally rejected him whenever he was upset and told him to stop talking about thiings and took his mike off to tell him what she didn't want us to know - she is a fake. She is manipulating him into going along with her to win it! You can't seriously not see through this?

do you honestly think john james is as naive as he makes out?

[Lucy.]

He likes her, it's blatantly obvious. He just doesn't want to admit it.
Someone who doesn't fancy someone does not mess on with them like he does with Josie, it would be too uncomfortable. Would you 'snuggle' and kiss and tell someone you didn't like you loved them every 5 seconds? I think not.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

He likes her, it's blatantly obvious. He just doesn't want to admit it.
Someone who doesn't fancy someone does not mess on with them like he does with Josie, it would be too uncomfortable. Would you 'snuggle' and kiss and tell someone you didn't like you loved them every 5 seconds? I think not.

If he thought 100k was at stake - he just might! He does like her, just not in the romantic sense - despite what some want to believe.

[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

If he thought 100k was at stake - he just might! He does like her, just not in the romantic sense - despite what some want to believe.

Sure. That's why he kissed her under the duvet and frequently prats on with her. You really do that with your mates!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

Sure. That's why he kissed her under the duvet and frequently prats on with her. You really do that with your mates!

But they aren't kissing in the way you imply - those noises are her sucking her thumb - they admitted it! Just friends snuggling up and having a giggle on his part!

[Danielle1232]

I feel so sorry for Josie.... x

[Julesuk]

arnt we all clever that we know what John James thinks?

[Mr XcX]

Playing up to camera. SO FAKE!