[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by BB2010 Avery

Huge cock up by BB this.

But lets be honest if the wind picks up on eviction night then Nathan could be half way back up to manchester again. The fella is about as big as my left testicle.

Let him fight JJ if hes man enough.

he'll have to catch him first

[smudgie]

He thought he was very clever when he was slating Rachael. He knows he has gone too far, he is more concerned about the public than Nathan.
And that is out of his own foul little crabby mouth.

[_Seth]

Nathan's just trying to look hard in front of Rachael.

[FaLaLaLand]

Karma can be an absolute biatch.

I'm not condoning it, but we all saw this coming. Be it during BB or after, John James was going to get his comeuppance.

[_Seth]

John did nothing wrong to Rachael. Every thing he said was valid. Nathan just wants to pretend he can protect Rachael...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Phlip

John did nothing wrong to Rachael. Every thing he said was valid. Nathan just wants to pretend he can protect Rachael...

I agree.

[Patrick]

I agree Phlip.

I can't believe some people on here think this is alright, who cares what he has done in a show for a few weeks.

He's came all this way to be in a show and it's so close to an end and now some idiot that was evicted weeks ago threatens to hit him.

The point is the producers were pathetic at letting Ben tell John that, and also letting Nathan tell Corin and letting Nathan even anywhere near John James and Rachael's date.

[BBBIGBRO]

Big brother let rachel give john james a massage as a way for them both to make up the peace so they could prob be friends and speak when they do get outside such as the BB party. As soon as john james enters the task room. Rachel says hiya and asks him to take his top of in a nice voice. John james bursts out laughing and starts all his crap mumberling ****! She then asked him how him and josie was and he was like were alright! Did you do the nuts magazine! Why WOULD you ask that if you was not set out to have a argument with the girl. ?? He then went on about her pulling faces while she was in the house. She said thats just the way i show the way i am feeling its not nice that you hate me for that. She then said what about when people call you crab eyes ?? John james knows he was horrible this is why he wants a quick escape. He knows it was his fault. He knows she was being nice and he said things to start to the argument. Wether nathan was behind the mirrors or not - he was there because he was coming in the house for corin. You can not hide the fact that john james was a bully and picked on her onec again! its his own fault so get over it! he is a horrible person END OF. Rachel was only in the house 1 wk he didnt even know the girl or get to know her but he is quick on judging her! there is no need for him to have this problem with the girl but he does.... WHY! because he knows he made her cry and he loves it .. bullying girls! he loves to see them sad. The only thing is rachel is with nathan now and has **** his pants! if nathan was not with rachel he would not care what he said to rachel. I hope he does walk! and STOP blaming big brother ... john james has been doing this for weeks on end. He deserves everything he gets.

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally Posted by BBBIGBRO

Big brother let rachel give john james a massage as a way for them both to make up the peace so they could prob be friends and speak when they do get outside such as the BB party.

You seriously think that's what they were trying to achieve?

[BBBIGBRO]

Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite

You seriously think that's what they were trying to achieve?

Yes i do. I dont think big brother was out to be the demon at all NOT at all.

Big brother never told rachel or johnjames what to say to each other did they ?

So how can you say this .. oh because it was rachel! if it had of been sunshine he would of bit her head off and gone on and on about the time they argued while he was dressed up as a chicken.

At the end of the day! all the arguments he has our with girls! he has made nearly everyone of the girls in that house cry! this is not good at all and if you approve of that then its disgusting! a man picking on a girl is shamefull.

He deserves everything he gets! if i was his mother i would be disgusted in him.

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally Posted by BBBIGBRO

Yes i do. I dont think big brother was out to be the demon at all NOT at all.

Big brother never told rachel or johnjames what to say to each other did they ?

So how can you say this .. oh because it was rachel! if it had of been sunshine he would of bit her head off and gone on and on about the time they argued while he was dressed up as a chicken.

At the end of the day! all the arguments he has our with girls! he has made nearly everyone of the girls in that house cry! this is not good at all and if you approve of that then its disgusting! a man picking on a girl is shamefull.

He deserves everything he gets! if i was his mother i would be disgusted in him.

Don't be naive. BB knew exactly what they were doing. John has said several times that he has never liked Rachel and didn't want to get to know her. Putting those two in a room together wasn't so they could sing Kumbaya and make Daisy chains, they would obviously argue, an ape could tell you that.

[BBBIGBRO]

Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite

Don't be naive. BB knew exactly what they were doing. John has said several times that he has never liked Rachel and didn't want to get to know her. Putting those two in a room together wasn't so they could sing Kumbaya and make Daisy chains, they would obviously argue, an ape could tell you that.

John james has argued with every girl in the house so no matter who they put in there HE STILL would of had a go at them for camara time. Its all about camara time. WAKE UP AND SMELL THAT COFFIE.

[lynz]

Originally Posted by BlackOrWhite

Don't be naive. BB knew exactly what they were doing. John has said several times that he has never liked Rachel and didn't want to get to know her. Putting those two in a room together wasn't so they could sing Kumbaya and make Daisy chains, they would obviously argue, an ape could tell you that.

He chose to meet Rachel. Bb didn't force him to.

[BBBIGBRO]

Dont think so. Nathan has corin who fancys the pants off him she cried saying goodbye mostly because she was gutted he is now takin and she has no chance. He knew rachel said she liked john james to john james he was in the house remember. I reckon rachel said she liked john james only because he was bullying her about the faces she makes! i think the girl just did not know what to say she was scared! that the only excuse she could make up was because i fancy you john james. Which is terrible that he has made someone feel like this.

[ibook4113]

Originally Posted by BBBIGBRO

Big brother never told rachel or johnjames what to say to each other did they ?

........

At the end of the day! all the arguments he has our with girls! he has made nearly everyone of the girls in that house cry! this is not good at all and if you approve of that then its disgusting! a man picking on a girl is shameful.

BUT Big Brother would have known that bringing Rachel in would make John James feel uncomfortable. The fact that Nathan was there too acting as a hard man makes the whole situation incredibly wrong. Big Brother cornered John James and scarred him, which he hasn't done to anyone. He haas argued, yes, but not actually made people worry about when they get outside.

He doesn't only have arguments with Girls, and if you look at the arguments they all make sense. Rachel, who expected John James to like her and then started giving him dirty looks when he didn't, she was arrogant. Sunshine was being a martyr, always the victim, John james was annoyed with her, he told her this, so she shouldn't have annoyed him again. Corin had got John James annoyed after all her constant repetitive little phrases. It started off as a joke but corin took such offence that she wouldn't leave the situation she kept coming back, in quite an aggressive way. But no one would ever see that because apparently only John James can be arrogant an aggressive, only a man can be aggressive or arrogant. Bull****. Women can be just as intimidating as men.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by ibook4113

BUT Big Brother would have known that bringing Rachel in would make John James feel uncomfortable.

He was given the choice of - receiving a massage from Rachael1 or giving a massage to Rachel2 (I know what i'd choose, if i'd been badmouthing one of them on national TV for 8 weeks!).

[jaq7uk]

ive missed all this, just watching now.wot happened re nathan??

[_Seth]

This is so much to think about... it was a fun task to put John and Rachael in a room. It really is ONLY Nathan in the wrong.

About the crab thing, BB should have shown him that they do have a sort of hold over him (like JJ is saying now). John should have just apologised and carried on.

Corin shouldn't have told John whatever Nathan said.

[kylaxxx]

I feel so disgusted in big brother! If John James walks from bb doing what they've done to him today i'l not watch big brother anymore!

[Rustic bauble]

Nathan is the lowest of the low.... you can just see him down the pub every night looking for a cheap date...getting pissed and pushing for a fight.
BB have deliberatly antagonised John James over the past 24hrs.. the crab suit was antagonising cos it represented a comment made that offended him earlier on in the show.... then everyone else gets an ex HM that they liked and John James gets the two he didnt.... I know I am a JJ1 fan... but I also know he has been stupid on some occassions... but what has happened is really disgusting... BB have a lot to answer for.

[BBBIGBRO]

He needs putting in his place. If i was nathan i would want to say somthing to him as well .. come on! nathan has watched the way he has been in the house picking on all the girls. He seen john james have a problem with rachel the 2nd day in the house .. 2nd day! the girl said nothing to him. Now that nathan is with rachel nathan is in every right to say what he has to corin because not only did he pick on rachel the 2nd day in the house he STILL has a problem with the girl! after all she is a woman and its not nice to see a man picking on a woman.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Nathan is the lowest of the low.... you can just see him down the pub every night looking for a cheap date...getting pissed and pushing for a fight.
BB have deliberatly antagonised John James over the past 24hrs.. the crab suit was antagonising cos it represented a comment made that offended him earlier on in the show.... then everyone else gets an ex HM that they liked and John James gets the two he didnt.... I know I am a JJ1 fan... but I also know he has been stupid on some occassions... but what has happened is really disgusting... BB have a lot to answer for.

Unfortunately he brought it all on himself.
Josie has repeatedly said he should not have said what he said. She has also said he was set up but no more than other housemates. It is just because it the precious JJ1 that people are calling BB all sorts.
I for one will be glad if I dont here his big mouth ever again. He has been absolutely hideous to some housemates.
Note certain housemates said Josie would not walk if JJ goes and she wont she is in there to win.She could have done that without JJames.

[_Seth]

This is so much to think about... it was a fun task to put John and Rachael in a room. It really is ONLY Nathan in the wrong.

About the crab thing, BB should have shown him that they do have a sort of hold over him (like JJ is saying now). John should have just apologised and carried on.

Corin shouldn't have told John whatever Nathan said.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Sorry but can we all drop the John James hate for one second while we have a discussion about this and not be biased about it for a sec?

Those producers literally threw poor John James in at the deep end.

They made Rachael give John James a massage while her boyfriend watches from behind a mirror and John said he heard a bang on the wall obviously hungry Nathan banging the camera run wall like a zombie in Dead Set.

John James and Rachael had a slight row while Nathan watched, Nathan then updated his status straight after this with 'Is hungry to kick some Aussie arse' or something similar to that, he then told Corin something after very similar to this and this afternoon informed Ben that when Nathan sees John James, he won't be able to walk.

John James is now very frightened and wants to walk out because he's afraid of what will happen on his eviction night with Nathan is there.

John James is literally packing his bags now, the producers have frightened this guy.

How the ****** do you let someone get away with threatening this guy on your TV Show?

Again even if I weren't a John fan I'd say this, this is very upsetting to watch a man who has flew from the other side of the world being scared out of the house.

It's disgusting.

I hope to get some comments back from people who can stop being biased towards who they dis/like for a few minutes.

Sorry but this is one of those occasions, if he does go, bad behaviour eventually catches up with you. He said there was nothing BB could do to him. How silly was that?

[poppygirl]

Whats scaring him out of the house is the thought of facing the big mouth audience, he's said it himself. He told Corin the other night she was fake for being bothered what the public thought about her so proof again he's fake.