[keithafc]

4 places is a hell of a lot. Then you look at the Josie situation. They messed it up.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by InOne

They got it very wrong. Ulrika, Vanessa, Preston and Chantelle, all big big mistakes.

This.

Well Vanessa was okay actually

Michelle was a mistake too. She was a bore. Coolio was another mistake too.

Therefore half of them mistakes.. half of them fine! lol

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by keithafc

4 places is a hell of a lot. Then you look at the Josie situation. They messed it up.

It is lol. Which 4 would you have picked?

The Josie thing was a bit on an unmitigated disaster. If she'd not seen her friends/family and John James, if she'd been given that phone call to John James, or more so if he'd never had the phone call to Nathan, to name a few things that might have kept her in there.

[keithafc]

I would of picked Rex, Marcus, Charley as at least 3 to go in without a doubt. Not sure on the 4th.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by keithafc

I would of picked Rex, Marcus, Charley as at least 3 to go in without a doubt. Not sure on the 4th.

Nicely played. A fair few people wanted those 3.

Come on, 1 more person! BB3 Alison, Tim, Alex? BB4 Ray, Lisa, Tickle? CBB2 Goldie? CBB5 Dirk, Jermaine? CBB7 Vinnie, Alex, Sov?

[keithafc]

Science?.. lol

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by keithafc

Science?.. lol

No lol. He was BB6. We already have Makosi. Try again lol

[keithafc]

I wasn't talking about 1 person from each series. Just the best BB characters ever. We had far too many people who were not only boring but you can hardly remember them. Preston, Ulrika, Chantelle etc.

[Kerry]

To be fair to them I guess you have to take into account who actually agreed that they would do it again. I suspect they approached plenty of the most 'entertaining' but they said no

But why they settled for Prestelle and Dullrika is anyones guess

[keithafc]

You see, i don't agree with that. I don't see how Rex or Marcus or Charley and others would of rejected going in for the final BB on Channel 4. I'd say many of them would of actually took being paid less than Ulrika for example.

But what do they do? They pay Ulrika a large sum and she produced little, if anything, she turned into one of the most boring people iv seen on TV. Its as if they wanted to get it over with quickly, picked up a quick list of HMs and just threw them in without even thinking about it.

People say its all about opinions and not everyone will be happy.. well im sorry but you can't be throwing in HMs into the UBB house who add nothing to do it and actually if anything, are a burden on the show.

The whole idea for UBB was to send BB out on a real high with the ultimate HMs in BB history. People we all remember and they did not deliver what we in general expected.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by keithafc

You see, i don't agree with that. I don't see how Rex or Marcus or Charley and others would of rejected going in for the final BB on Channel 4. I'd say many of them would of actually took being paid less than Ulrika for example.

But what do they do? They pay Ulrika a large sum and she produced little, if anything, she turned into one of the most boring people iv seen on TV. Its as if they wanted to get it over with quickly, picked up a quick list of HMs and just threw them in without even thinking about it.

People say its all about opinions and not everyone will be happy.. well im sorry but you can't be throwing in HMs into the UBB house who add nothing to do it and actually if anything, are a burden on the show.

The whole idea for UBB was to send BB out on a real high with the ultimate HMs in BB history. People we all remember and they did not deliver what we in general expected.

I actually think it was geared up for Brian to win. Who in there was ever going to compete with him? No one.

[keithafc]

Originally Posted by Jaye

I actually think it was geared up for Brian to win. Who in there was ever going to compete with him? No one.

Yeah but the point of the series was to go out in a high, i kind of lost attention in the last 5 days of the show. It was that boring. The lack of big BB characters is what made it rubbish.

That is the key point here. A lack of big characters will kill any reality tv show.

[Kerry]

It was a failiure full stop IMO. BB11 too really. Very disappointing

[HBB1508]

They shouldn't have put celebs in there at all and they shouldn't have paid people to go in - have one big prize pot at the end - give them something to work for rather than just sitting it out and waiting for the pay check. That's what I think anyway

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by keithafc

You see, i don't agree with that. I don't see how Rex or Marcus or Charley and others would of rejected going in for the final BB on Channel 4. I'd say many of them would of actually took being paid less than Ulrika for example.

But what do they do? They pay Ulrika a large sum and she produced little, if anything, she turned into one of the most boring people iv seen on TV. Its as if they wanted to get it over with quickly, picked up a quick list of HMs and just threw them in without even thinking about it.

People say its all about opinions and not everyone will be happy.. well im sorry but you can't be throwing in HMs into the UBB house who add nothing to do it and actually if anything, are a burden on the show.

The whole idea for UBB was to send BB out on a real high with the ultimate HMs in BB history. People we all remember and they did not deliver what we in general expected.

I think it was Patrick who said Marcus and Rex weren't even asked and that rex wanted to do it. And I suspect one of the reasons Ulrika was there was because Coolio probably wanted a familiar face as he seemed to already know La Toya and Verne before CBB6 started. Surely he'd have known some celebrities from other series such as Dirk, Jermaine, Sisqo or maybe even Sov. Maybe they turned it down but they'd hav been cheaper than Ulrika who was reportedly the highest paid CBB6 HM

[keithafc]

How could the producers not ask Rex and Marcus?

To be honest, i think that perfectly sums it up. They tried to play it safe. Simple as that.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by keithafc

How could the producers not ask Rex and Marcus?

To be honest, i think that perfectly sums it up. They tried to play it safe. Simple as that.

On BBLB Pete Burns admitted he was shocked he was also never asked. And DS reported that Galloway was in fact asked but turned it down.

Who knows what went on with the casting? You could argue it was rushed because it was only announced the day of BB11's launch, wasn't it? But you'd think Rex, Marcus and Pete Burns would be at the top of the lists of regular and celeb HMs, rather than Preston and Ulrika.

[slow&steady]

Didnt think it was too bad,but it did fall spectacularly FLAT very soon,if it wasnt for nick and victor if it would'e been a total wash out...And the less said about the BB 11 line up the better.

[Wingnut73]

Rex, Charley, Alex, would have been classic. Although I think Brian is great my favourite I would have gone for Alex

[fruit_cake]

Jen and Dale would've stirred the pot a bit too

[Strictly Jake]

If there was a ultimate 2. What lineup would you pick. Mine would be bb1 craig. Bb2 helen. Bb3 alex. Bb6 anthony. Bb7 grace and glyn. Bb8 samanda and charley. Bb9 rex. Bb10 sophie bea and marcus. Bb11 sam. Celeb bb's pete burns, sov, and alex reid

[Kaaarenn!]

They didn't get the line-up right overall but some of the housemates they picked were right.

[podge2007]

I think in UBB they picked certain hms that needed closure or redemption;

Nasty Nick became Nice Nick
Michelle is no longer the psychotic bunny boiler
Vanessa wanted to prove she's a different/stronger person than she was in 2001
Makosi wanted closure after the Anthony thing
Nikki wanted a positive end to BB after her distrastrous comeback in BB7
Chantelle and Preston needed to sort out their feelings
Victor wanted to show he's not aggressive

So in a way the casting was spot on if you add in legendary winners like Brian and Nadia and CBB legends John McCririck and Coolio. The only one that was not needed was probably Ulrika.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by ShakeyJake10

If there was a ultimate 2. What lineup would you pick. Mine would be bb1 craig. Bb2 helen. Bb3 alex. Bb6 anthony. Bb7 grace and glyn. Bb8 samanda and charley. Bb9 rex. Bb10 sophie bea and marcus. Bb11 sam. Celeb bb's pete burns, sov, and alex reid

It'd be 30 days to allow more HMs and the evictions would be spaced out like CBB3 and 4 rather than rush everyone out at the last minute. Think I've got a mixture of nice, nasty, popular and not...

BB1's Nichola -because she'd still fit in with BB nowadays
BB2's Helen - bubbly, bubbly bubble of love
BB3's Tim - whinge but wasn't THAT bad. He was quite game for BB Panto
BB4's Anouska - she was robbed I tells ya
BB5's Kitten - most likely to walk/be ejected - she threatened to walk during BB Panto
BB6's Science - makes the Slick Man look like mince meat
BB7's Lea - I reckon she'd get on with or clash with Nichola
BB8's Charley - aggression personified
BB9's Rex - because he seems to be popular on here
BB10's Marcus - because he seems to be popular on here
BB11's Sam Pepper - because opinions are so mixed on him

CBB HMs would enter later as a cherry on top. The regular HMs make the main bulk of the cake

CBB1's Chris Eubank - thesp
CBB2's Goldie - voiced his thoughts which is why he was voted out first
CBB3's Jackie Stallone - "Yeah, Brackie!"
CBB4's Pete Burns - because he wanted to be in UBB anyway
CBB5's Jermaine Jackson - keeper of the peace
CBB6's Tina Mallone - drama queen
CBB7's Alex Reid - up for fun

Originally Posted by podge2007

I think in UBB they picked certain hms that needed closure or redemption;

Nasty Nick became Nice Nick
Michelle is no longer the psychotic bunny boiler
Vanessa wanted to prove she's a different/stronger person than she was in 2001
Makosi wanted closure after the Anthony thing
Nikki wanted a positive end to BB after her distrastrous comeback in BB7
Chantelle and Preston needed to sort out their feelings
Victor wanted to show he's not aggressive

So in a way the casting was spot on if you add in legendary winners like Brian and Nadia and CBB legends John McCririck and Coolio. The only one that was not needed was probably Ulrika.

That's a great way of looking at it. I still think Preston wasn't necessarily needed because Chantelle could still have reacted the same way she had just by reliving the BB experience without him. However, like the rest you mentioned, Preston also went in to change the public's opinion of him following the divorce.

[mizzy25]

it shud have been the winners of each series normal bb with another interesting character from each series that way u wud have still got nick, nikki, nadia and makosi it but then maybe victor wudnt have been there? but deffo shud have been all the winners.