[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I think what they need to do is either have a rule that when a judge has both acts in the bottom that they either always go last so they have the dead lock option, always abstain from voting and so it's majority rules or always have to vote whether they want to or not. If this was made clear and it was stuck to then people couldn't complain.

Yes this sounds good. if it was consistent, then people wouldnt have any grounds to complain.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

after last weeks fiasco Simon is said to be considering introducing a 5th judge to stop a similar scenario from occurring. I don't know how true this article is but interesting none the less

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ng-claims.html

Yes Do It.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I never said you couldn't offer solutions or comment on newspaper articles, I'm just stating that the only reason all of this fuss and 'solutions' being drawn up are only because Katie was in the Bottom Two. Sure, there'd be the odd comment on forums here and there each week when an act went out [like there always is] - but the only reason this has caused so much fuss is because Katie stayed.

No one would bat an eyelid, like I said, if this was Paije VS TreyC...because no one cares enough. It's only because people want rid of Katie.

The reason why people are annoyed is irrelevant, the fact is we are, and we want clarification of the rules so we don't find ourselves in this position again. As it is the public who keep the show going and line Mr. Cowells pockets then I don't think this is too much to ask for.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

The reason why people are annoyed is irrelevant, the fact is we are, and we want clarification of the rules so we don't find ourselves in this position again. As it is the public who keep the show going and line Mr. Cowells pockets then I don't think this is too much to ask for.

Yup, dont really think it is too much to ask for a little clarification of how things are going to work from now on.

After all, if someone else ends up with two acts in the bottom, and are allowed to go last, that will drag all this back up again.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, dont really think it is too much to ask for a little clarification of how things are going to work from now on.

After all, if someone else ends up with two acts in the bottom, and are allowed to go last, that will drag all this back up again.

Yeah, of course it will, people will be shouting fix even louder, that is of course unless Simon says From now on judges with 2 acts in the bottom will vote last!

[cub]

Easier just to have three judges as they did in the first three years.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

The reason why people are annoyed is irrelevant, the fact is we are, and we want clarification of the rules so we don't find ourselves in this position again. As it is the public who keep the show going and line Mr. Cowells pockets then I don't think this is too much to ask for.

...it's not irrelevant, because essentially it's not the 'fix' that people are more concerned/cared about - it's the fact that Katie stayed. There would not be as much fuss as this if it were someone else other than Katie - some would not even have noticed this 'fix' because they wouldn't have been paying attention for ways in which they, apparently, tried to 'keep Katie in'.

There's always backstage rules [can't think of the proper word for them] on TV shows, they're pretty much the small print except they aren't printed. They're just for 'in case this ever does happen' - rarely used and thus there's no reason for them to ever be publicised.

[Niamh.]

Oh FFS Jack, either stay on topic in the thread or don't post.

Dead. Horse.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

...it's not irrelevant, because essentially it's not the 'fix' that people are more concerned/cared about - it's the fact that Katie stayed. There would not be as much fuss as this if it were someone else other than Katie - some would not even have noticed this 'fix' because they wouldn't have been paying attention for ways in which they, apparently, tried to 'keep Katie in'.

There's always backstage rules [can't think of the proper word for them] on TV shows, they're pretty much the small print except they aren't printed. They're just for 'in case this ever does happen' - rarely used and thus there's no reason for them to ever be publicised.

Jack, if they sort this now, then it will save outrage in the future if this happens again. Simple.

Even if they do it the normal way next time...say Paije and Aiden were in thje bottom this week, and dannii is asked last...there will be hell on as the decision with katie and treyc will be dragged up again.

The fact that sometimes the judge is asked last, and sometimes second/first kind of shows there is NO backstage rules about stuff like this. And they can just twist situations to suit themselves.

All they need to do is clarify what will happen if the same thing happens again.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Even if they do it the normal way next time...say Paije and Aiden were in thje bottom this week, and dannii is asked last...there will be hell on as the decision with katie and treyc will be dragged up again.

The fact that sometimes the judge is asked last, and sometimes second/first kind of shows there is NO backstage rules about stuff like this. And they can just twist situations to suit themselves.

All they need to do is clarify what will happen if the same thing happens again.

...that's all well and good, but regarding this point:

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Jack, if they sort this now, then it will save outrage in the future if this happens again. Simple.

This has happened in the past though, in Series 4, so Sunday's events were the 'future'. Why wasn't there outrage the first time it happened?