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Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 13-03-2011, 07:47 PM

rock then D':

Zippy · 13-03-2011, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott

rock then D':

bet you voted pop

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 13-03-2011, 07:50 PM

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 13-03-2011, 07:50 PM

i actually forgot :L

joeysteele · 13-03-2011, 08:03 PM

Pop, its a far wider category anyway and while Rock is great too, it can have a lot of limitations. Definately pop for me.

Stu · 13-03-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Pop, its a far wider category anyway and while Rock is great too, it can have a lot of limitations. Definately pop for me.

Such as?

Shaun · 13-03-2011, 08:21 PM

i'm not really sure why you'd have to pick between the two to be honest

they're both extremely broad categories. It's like asking if people prefer food or drink.

Stu · 13-03-2011, 08:24 PM

I agree with that. Both have their uses. I just think it's an absurd notion to put foward that rock music has greater limitations than pop.

Look how many subgenres rock has branched out into since it's inception and look at the relatively few subgenres pop music has had a breakthrough with in comparison. Most pop at any one period in history sounds exactly the same whilst rock has literally hundreds of subgenres full of creative songwriting enjoying various degrees of popularity the world over.

I love pop. It fills a daft niche in my life. I love enjoying stupidly happy synth melodies with their accompanying garish music videos. But at the end of the day it's not my main source of musical nutrition. It's the bag of Doritos I have at the end of the day once my penance of life giving fruit and veg has been paid. Rock has plenty of riddiculous pretensions too but the quantity of quality output more than makes up for it.

I read more rock biographies than pop ones because it's world is populated with signifigantly more crazy, creative characters whose lives I'm interested in. I learn to play and study rock songs whilst I learn to simply enjoy pop songs. I find people with a steady intake or Rock n' Roll to be better conversation pieces and generally more engaging people than those who listen to just pop. It's a crude but useful barometer in my experience.

A pop song won't be playing at my funeral.

Niall · 13-03-2011, 09:06 PM

I listen to both but generally I listen to pop more. So I guess its pop for me. I still love rock too though.

Omah · 13-03-2011, 09:23 PM

Rock .....

MeMyselfAndI · 13-03-2011, 09:23 PM

Pop by far!

joeysteele · 13-03-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Such as?

Its just my opinion and I am entitled to it, I love rock music but there are far greater variations of pop than rock music that's all I was saying.

Thereby in the rock category there are limitations of style,in pop the variations are endless.

Both are good forms of music (in my opinion,just my opinion), but I prefer pop,simple as that.

Shaun · 13-03-2011, 09:32 PM

You still haven't said any examples of the limitations of style.

But heaven forbid we ask any basis for your OPIn1onss!!!

Stu · 13-03-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Its just my opinion and I am entitled to it, I love rock music but there are far greater variations of pop than rock music that's all I was saying.

Thereby in the rock category there are limitations of style,in pop the variations are endless.

Both are good forms of music (in my opinion,just my opinion), but I prefer pop,simple as that.

Of course you are entitled to it. Just like I am entitled to press the issue further.

What limitations exist in rock music that do not exist in pop? I'm genuinly baffled.

Rock is by far a more diverese arena than pop.

Z · 13-03-2011, 10:38 PM

Pop. I think I verge on the weird side of pop though, like Stu I enjoy pop music but my main source of musical enjoyment comes from creative pop singers who don't experience much success but put out very good music (in my opinion.) I think the thing with pop music and its lack of diversity is that pop as a genre basically just steals elements from other genres, it's not a distinct.. thing. I mean, cheesy pop from the 1990s/early 2000s isn't the same as autotuned R&B/dubstep pop that is currently popular; it's weird how easily pop went from cheesy Steps covers to bands like The Kooks and Razorlight having brief popularity, an indie invasion, to this new R&B sort of thing. I think the only respect in which rock and pop are comparable are that both have huge followings and have produced highly successful artists/bands in each genre, and that pop has occasionally stolen elements from rock music.

Zippy · 13-03-2011, 10:54 PM

Well at the risk of pointing out the obvious..

pop is short for popular. Therefore it is really a term that can encompass all genres of music at the commercial end of their output. So it doesn't really lack diversity. Chart music is essentially pop music. Most rock bands in the charts are pop rock. Most acts have to incorporate a pop element into their sound to gain chart success.

but it's about whether you would prefer to go further down the more hardcore rock road or further down the more cheesy pop road. This is really the choice. In my experience people are usually, at heart, a rock fan or a pop fan. It's not exclusive but just a general preference.

Stu · 13-03-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

Well at the risk of pointing out the obvious..

pop is short for popular. Therefore it is really a term that can encompass all genres of music at the commercial end of their output. So it doesn't really lack diversity. Chart music is essentially pop music. Most rock bands in the charts are pop rock. Most acts have to incorporate a pop element into their sound to gain chart success.

but it's about whether you would prefer to go further down the more hardcore rock road or further down the more cheesy pop road. This is really the choice. In my experience people are usually, at heart, a rock fan or a pop fan. It's not exclusive but just a general preference.

Only certain segments of rock, electronic or whatever have what it takes to become 'pop' though so in comparison to the wider pantheon of chart blind genres yes, it is less diversified. Acid House and Black Metal will not be entering the charts anytime soon. Underneath the invite only posh pop party up on the top floor of chartsville lie the basements overflowing with the geeks and weirdos of the music world.

People being one or the other at heart is all well and good but having simply just rock as counterpoint to pop sounds like the ramblings of MeMyself&I. What if someone is into jazz? Electronic? Other genres that are not rock and not popular? It's not some weird Skins-esque world of moshers vs. plastics. I find it a very unusual thread question.

Zippy · 13-03-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

People being one or the other at heart is all well and good but having simply just rock as counterpoint to pop sounds like the ramblings of MeMyself&I. What if someone is into jazz? Electronic? Other genres that are not rock and not popular? It's not some weird Skins-esque world of moshers vs. plastics.

Its not a serious thread with grave consequences. Nor does it negate any other musical tastes that don't fit into either camp.

just vote ffs

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 13-03-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Only certain segments of rock, electronic or whatever have what it takes to become 'pop' though so in comparison to the wider pantheon of chart blind genres yes, it is less diversified. Acid House and Black Metal will not be entering the charts anytime soon. Underneath the invite only posh pop party up on the top floor of chartsville lie the basements overflowing with the geeks and weirdos of the music world.

People being one or the other at heart is all well and good but having simply just rock as counterpoint to pop sounds like the ramblings of MeMyself&I. What if someone is into jazz? Electronic? Other genres that are not rock and not popular? It's not some weird Skins-esque world of moshers vs. plastics. I find it a very unusual thread question.