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Pyramid* · 15-05-2011, 10:39 AM

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serious debate?

You read my mind Zippy....hence my final sentence on my last post.

Crimson Dynamo · 15-05-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

serious debate?

About as serious as "Do women have the same sex drive as men?"

joeysteele · 15-05-2011, 10:55 AM

I like the term, for those who have no beliefs of anything at all after death,at least especially if the person had lots of traumas in life they are now free of that once they die. for those who do believe that there is some part of our energy that goes elswhere after death or is stored for some reason after death the term Rest In Peace has greater meaning obviously.

I can't see how anyone would not hope,no matter what does or doesn't occur after death that at least the person was now at peace.

I could never agree with bulldozing grave and church yards, Some people need that place to feel at one with loved ones who have died and burials are not cheap,they cost far more than cremation.I visit my Grandmothers grave, I call it her garden not grave and feel uplifted I can go and place flowers on it and I get a warm feeling doing that.She was very special to me and of course its respect.

Z · 15-05-2011, 02:23 PM

Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Crimson Dynamo · 15-05-2011, 02:34 PM

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Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Say what you wish just avoid the tired cliche of rip.

Marsh. · 15-05-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Say what you wish just avoid the tired cliche of rip.

Are you bored today? What an odd thing to bug you that much.

Pyramid* · 15-05-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee

Well I'd rather wish for my friend/relative/partner to no longer be in suffering than to not say anything at all. What would you have people say instead of R.I.P., LeatherTrumpet?

Very good point. Many people have suffered great pain before they die - years of pain and suffering all of kinds that many of us could not imagine. I agree, it's a respectful wish, and hoping that their suffering (of whatever sort) may now be over.

Crimson Dynamo · 15-05-2011, 02:54 PM

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Very good point. Many people have suffered great pain before they die - years of pain and suffering all of kinds that many of us could not imagine. I agree, it's a respectful wish, and hoping that their suffering (of whatever sort) may now be over.

Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

Pyramid* · 15-05-2011, 03:02 PM

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Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

Crimson Dynamo · 15-05-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

I dont think any adult really believes that, they may hope it is true or that it is not but no one believes such utter unmitigated pish.

No religion deserves respect because it is based on lies and intolerance.

joeysteele · 15-05-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't think there's any real need to be 'sarcastic'. Many people do believe in such thiings - and I'd say it was pretty disrespectful to mock that, them, or their belief.

I personally don't believe in that - but many religions do believe in such things. I think it's a bit crass to mock somone simply because you don't share their belief. Having a difference of opinion is understandable, one still has be be respectful of how others beliefs are important to them thought it may not be to everyones.

I don't think you are going to get anywhere Pyramid,However,leather trumpet, The voice of reason (Lord help us), is incorrect on many issues in his/her posts,for instance:- Cemeteries are not in Church grounds and many people are buried not for religious ideals but because some people believe that as we have to be formed so there may be a reason for the natural decomposition process too.
Churchyards are the burial areas attached to a Church or in its grounds, Cemeteries are not.

Many non religious people and Atheists are buried in Cemeteries that have no Church or Chapel in them or parts with no consecrated ground either.

Marsh. · 15-05-2011, 03:40 PM

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Yes lets hope they rest in peace and dont get resurrected into heaven or worse still end up in hell for eternity

Obviously the idea of heaven has completely bypassed you. Do you know what resurrected means?

Crimson Dynamo · 15-05-2011, 03:43 PM

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Obviously the idea of heaven has completely bypassed you. Do you know what resurrected means?

That does not make any sense

Stu · 15-05-2011, 03:51 PM

LOL @ people still engaging in passionate debate with an obvious gimmick poster's gimmick thread.

Don't feed the

Marsh. · 15-05-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

LOL @ people still engaging in passionate debate with an obvious gimmick poster's gimmick thread.

Don't feed the

Amen.

Oops...

Pyramid* · 15-05-2011, 03:53 PM

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LOL @ people still engaging in passionate debate with an obvious gimmick poster's gimmick thread.

Don't feed the

I know. I know. Such good another thread has been started on a very similar theme. Deary me.

(that's at the OP, not you)

Crimson Dynamo · 15-05-2011, 03:55 PM

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I know. I know. Such good another thread has been started on a very similar theme. Deary me.

(that's at the OP, not you)

"Perhaps I'm more understanding than you? Therein lies a very large difference of opinion between you and I."

hypocrite would have been a better summary

Pyramid* · 15-05-2011, 03:58 PM

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"Perhaps I'm more understanding than you? Therein lies a very large difference of opinion between you and I."

hypocrite would have been a better summary

You're funny!!!