[Niall]

Jesus I thought she'd be better than the mess she is in that video up there.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Niall

Jesus I thought she'd be better than the mess she is in that video up there.

Believe it or not, I think that was one of her better performances of the night...... The one I saw she was sitting on the speakers and alsorts. How she stayed upright I'll never know......

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Believe it or not, I think that was one of her better performances of the night...... The one I saw she was sitting on the speakers and alsorts. How she stayed upright I'll never know......

Sounds very much like the youtube clip I saw: staggered onto stage, went over to cuddle into band member, staggered toward speaker, tried to take shoe off, sat on speaker (back to audience), took one shoe off, tried to stand up, staggered all over, tried to take shoe off, bend double to steady herself on speaker. took shoe off chucked it towards audience, went over to 2nd black band member (all the while, band were trying to play her in with drummer - trying hard to smile which then dissapated), this 2nd backing singer that she went to cuddle, he gently grabbed her hand and asked if she was okay. He leads her toward the mike...... then the incoherent rambling started - with her sniffing and wiping under her nose, then picking at her right arm - then started clawing at her left arm.

Completely and utterly out of her head - and I defy anyone to say it was just booze.... the clip showed her looking right into the 'camera' that was taking this particular clip - and her eyes were rolling all over the place.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Sounds very much like the youtube clip I saw: staggered onto stage, went over to cuddle into band member, staggered toward speaker, tried to take shoe off, sat on speaker (back to audience), took one shoe off, tried to stand up, staggered all over, tried to take shoe off, bend double to steady herself on speaker. took shoe off chucked it towards audience, went over to 2nd black band member (all the while, band were trying to play her in with drummer - trying hard to smile which then dissapated), this 2nd backing singer that she went to cuddle, he gently grabbed her hand and asked if she was okay. He leads her toward the mike...... then the incoherent rambling started - with her sniffing and wiping under her nose, then picking at her right arm - then started clawing at her left arm.

Completely and utterly out of her head - and I defy anyone to say it was just booze.... the clip showed her looking right into the 'camera' that was taking this particular clip - and her eyes were rolling all over the place.

Yeah, thats what I saw. Seems it (or most of the show) has been taken offline now

I'm not sure if she was just drunk or drunk and high or what. Definately had a skinful. Part of me wants to say we've all made mistakes. All shown ourselves up at somepoint and feel so sorry for her as she seems very isolated but of course you have the nagging 'try and sort it out lass'

[Stu]

I have good faith that she will recover eventually. Most people do. I know it's popular to naysay and declare that those in the public eye on this path are going to stay on the path because it sounds all authorative and obvious but it's been demonstrably proven that the majority of people change.

Music has far more reformed dinosaurs than dead heroes.

[Iceman]

AMY WINEHOUSE has been retired by her bosses and won't be appearing on stage again "for years".

Her manager has finally laid down the law after she sneaked a stash of booze backstage before embarrassing herself in Belgrade, Serbia, at the weekend.

RAY COSBERT has always refused to tell her how to live her life - arguing it's not his place to do so.

But for the sake of her health he's stepped in and has retired her from performing "indefinitely". A source close to the singer said: "It has been hard for Ray to watch her get into trouble over the years.

"There's only so much he can do - but enough's enough.

"She's going away and this time it could be for years."

All the remaining 11 European tour dates have been cancelled and Amy is facing another long period in rehab.

Sadly it's not the first time we've been here - humiliation has become more common than chart success for Amy.

But why does it keep happening? Why can't her family sort things out?

Ask any parent who has been through the horror of having a son or daughter with addiction issues - they will tell you how hard it is to intervene.

But it's time for extreme measures.

Ray has dedicated more than a decade of his life to making the hugely talented singer he calls "my girl" a success.

But he's not her dad or a sibling and how do you tell a millionaire how to live her personal life?

This has to be the final humiliation - she needs an extended break, away from London with full-time care.

It may take years - but she can afford it.

What she can't afford is for the pantomime to continue.

If it does, we all know it won't end happily ever after.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz1PxPQ63i6

[Omah]

Good riddance .....

[Iceman]

Its the absolute best thing for her though which is good, if she never makes another album again i dont mind so long as the woman gets the help she so desperately needs

[Kerry]

I'm not sure I can see her getting help but I'd hope she would

[Iceman]

So do I Kerry, I hope at least the press wont keep following her (I'm not saying that she doesnt want that, but for her recovery it would be the best thing if they just blanked her completely)

[Iceman]

Amy Winehouse was pushed on stage drunk despite not wanting to perform in Belgrade, according to a witness backstage.

Winehouse was booed at the concert over the weekend after slurring the words to her songs and appearing lost and incoherent while on stage in Belgrade.

The 27-year-old singer has subsequently cancelled all of her remaining European tour dates following the incident, with her team adamant to help the star return to health.

However, Ana Zoe Kida - whose group Zemlja Gruva shared the bill with Winehouse in Belgrade - told The Sun: "Four British bodyguards simply pushed her to step up on stage.

"She did not want to and was making a scene trying to escape them. It was distressing to see, she obviously needed help."

Source: DS

[Stu]

Booze can do that. I'm not saying she's clean of everything else but I see nothing from her in those clips that booze alone can't do and by all accounts it's replaced crack as her big problem drug because it's the one she can't seem to quit.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Stu

Booze can do that. I'm not saying she's clean of everything else but I see nothing from her in those clips that booze alone can't do and by all accounts it's replaced crack as her big problem drug because it's the one she can't seem to quit.

Yeah, booze alone can certainly get someone in that state. I've been there many moons ago. Godknows how much vodka I'd drank on that night out but it was apparently fine to throw myself AT a taxi to stop it.....

I almost admire Amy for staying upright

[joeysteele]

I agree with Kerry and Pyramid and as Pyramid said on another thread, she is in need of serious help, sadly the people she likely has around her are not the people she really needs at this time in her life. How sad and what a waste.

[Vicky.]

This is going to sound really heartless...but I find it hard to feel sorry for people who are in that state via their own doing. And I dont think she wants help either. Needs it, yeah, but doesnt want it.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is going to sound really heartless...but I find it hard to feel sorry for people who are in that state via their own doing. And I dont think she wants help either. Needs it, yeah, but doesnt want it.

Not heartless. Just honest

I am a little mystified why she did it more than anything else. I mean, you know you're about to do a concert...... Dutch courage, fair enough but thats not Dutch courage

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Not heartless. Just honest

I am a little mystified why she did it more than anything else. I mean, you know you're about to do a concert...... Dutch courage, fair enough but thats not Dutch courage

Exactly

Everyones meant to feel sorry for the poor little girl. When its her own damn fault. Of course they made her go on...people had paid to see her, and she will have known about the concert ages in advance too...not like they just told her that morning.

[Kerry]

Actually, the more I think about it.... why didn't any of those backing singers/band stop her? Why did nobody at all stop her going on? Who on earth let her actually walk on that stage in the first place? Surely her fans would have rather had her cancel than humiliate herself? You can't tell me NOBODY saw she was in a state before she actually got onstage

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Actually, the more I think about it.... why didn't any of those backing singers/band stop her? Why did nobody at all stop her going on? Who on earth let her actually walk on that stage in the first place? Surely her fans would have rather had her cancel than humiliate herself? You can't tell me NOBODY saw she was in a state before she actually got onstage

I don't feel sorry for her except in that these people always have the wrong people around them when they need to have the right people there and because she knows them she feels safe with them despite all evidence to the contrary .

The people who let her go on despite her state, (and of course she herself is more to blame for even attempting this while she is still in the state she is),those people make money from her, they know Amy had stage presence to her strong fans at any rate, that normally would mean she could do almost anything and get away with it,they will have thought she would just be accepted despite the mess she was in and that would be that,it backfired heavily and I'm pleased it has.

Whether that will make her really throw all the bad influences out of her life and really get herself sorted I doubt that completely,however it will be the only way she has any hope though of getting anywhere near sorting herself out at all.

[bbfan1991]

She has the talent but her own fault things have ended up this way, a shame really.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is going to sound really heartless...but I find it hard to feel sorry for people who are in that state via their own doing. And I dont think she wants help either. Needs it, yeah, but doesnt want it.

That's my opinion on her too. She's not really my cup of tea but I do like Back to Black, I just think it's ridiculous that people are still harping on about her being a trainwreck when she's been a trainwreck for the past, what, four years? She's barely done anything new musically in the past four years to my knowledge and it's just sad to see someone become more notorious for their problems than for their talent, when she is a very talented woman. But as others have said, some people don't want help and some people can't be helped, I'm not sure which of those two she is but I disagree with Eoin (I think it was) who said he hopes the press leave her alone - I think that might send her into an even worse frame of mind if she thinks everyone's forgotten all about her, depends on her perception of her own image I guess. She's tragic and I think she needs to be forced to go away for a very, very long time.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Zee

She's tragic and I think she needs to be forced to go away for a very, very long time.

ooh

[Z]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

ooh

Haha, awkward. I didn't mean to the point of death, aah!

[InOne]

Hasn't she only had one good album? Like I know she's done a few but wasn't it only one that got big? One could argue she was a flash in the pan anyway...

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by InOne

Hasn't she only had one good album? Like I know she's done a few but wasn't it only one that got big? One could argue she was a flash in the pan anyway...

I've never liked her stuff or her really. Don't like seeing people crash though