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Old 06-07-2011, 12:17 AM #1
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After she went missing, how low can the press get and how do they sleep at night. Poor Millie's family as if they didn't have enough heartbreak to contend with.


that's truly awful.
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Police have visited the parents of Holly Wells & Jessica Chapman as well, the two 10 year old girls murdered by Ian Huntley, they might have hacked their fathers phone or something

If all of this is true, and I bet it is, it's actually disgusting and if the paper manages to survive this I hope noone ever buys it again
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Jesus, the Wells and Chapman one is low Do they only employ Sociopaths or something?
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The dick who done the hacking 'apologised' but said he didn't know he was doing anything wrong. Use your ****ing brain.
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Rebekah Brooks, the embattled chief executive of Rupert Murdoch’s News International, personally commissioned searches by one of the private investigators who was later used by the News of the World to trace the family of the murdered Surrey schoolgirl Milly Dowler, The Independent can reveal. Ms Brooks, while editor of NOTW, used Steve Whittamore, a private detective who specialised in obtaining illegal information to “convert” a mobile phone number to find its registered owner. Mr Whittamore also provided the paper with the Dowlers’ ex-directory home phone number.

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), which successfully prosecuted Whittamore for breaches of the Data Protection Act in 2005, said last night it would have been illegal to obtain the mobile conversion if the details had been "blagged" from a phone company.

Ms Brooks, who said yesterday she was "shocked and appalled" at the latest hacking claims, admitted requesting the information. But she said it could be obtained by "perfectly legitimate means". She faced demands for her resignation last night.

The revelation came as News International battled a political and commercial firestorm over the disclosure that its bestselling paper interfered with the police investigation into Milly's disappearance in March 2002 by hacking into her mobile phone and deleting messages.

An emergency three-hour debate is to be held in the House of Commons today. The Labour leader Ed Miliband hardened his position on the scandal, demanding a public inquiry and calling for Ms Brooks to "consider her conscience and consider her position".

David Cameron described the hacking as "quite shocking" and a "truly dreadful act", but rebuffed the call for a public inquiry. He insisted Scotland Yard be allowed to follow the evidence wherever it led.

Responding to growing clamour for her to step down, Ms Brooks yesterday told News International staff it was "inconceivable" that she knew of or sanctioned the hacking of Milly's mobile phone.

In a passionate defence of her position, she wrote: "I have to tell you that I am sickened that these events are alleged to have happened. Not just because I was editor of the News of the World at the time, but if the accusations are true, the devastating effect on Milly Dowler's family is unforgivable."

No evidence has been presented that Ms Brooks was aware of Mulcaire's activities surrounding Milly's disappearance. But an investigation by The Independent shows she was aware of the existence of Whittamore, who used an associate to obtain the Dowlers' home phone number from BT, and made use of his services in an unrelated case.

A copy of the "Blue Book" obtained by The Independent, which covers more than 1,000 transactions carried out for New International's titles between 2000 and 2003, records a request in 2001 from Ms Brooks (whose surname was then Wade) for a "mobile conversion" along with a mobile phone number. She made a second request for an electoral roll search for an address in Doncaster, South Yorkshire. The address was occupied at the time by a painter-decorator who lived in a flat above a bike shop in the town.

A friend said: "I have no idea why the editor of the News of the World would have been interested in him. He's just an ordinary guy."

When asked last year by MPs to explain the circumstances around her request, Ms Brooks said she could no longer remember why she wanted to convert the number.

"This was nine years ago and I cannot recall why I required this particular conversion," she wrote.

"You should note that 'conversion'... is often carried out through perfectly legitimate means such as a web search."

An ICO spokeswoman said: "If that information was obtained by 'blagging' then it would have been illegal under Section 55 of the Data Protection Act."

News International last night failed to respond to a request for comment on Ms Brooks' requests to Whittamore. Simon Greenberg, a spokesman for the company, said that Ms Brooks would not be stepping down over the hacking of Milly's phone: "This happened back in 2002, she's now chief executive of a company in 2011. She's absolutely determined to get to the bottom of this issue."

He said the company had launched a full inquiry to establish the facts of the hacking of Milly's phone during Ms Brooks' time as editor.
I'm sure that more of Brooks' unscrupulous past will come out .....
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It is the link David Cameron's aides always feared. The link between the prime minister's former close aide and director of communications, Andy Coulson, and alleged illegality when he was editor of the News of the World.

This story is, though, not about hacking. It is about paying the police.

News International have now confirmed - in response to an article in Vanity Fair - that they have passed on e-mails to the investigation which, it is alleged, show that Coulson authorised payments to the police when he was editor of the NoW.

I am told that News International did not inform their old employee and favourite son, Andy Coulson, about what they had passed to the police.

What this shows is that those in the firing line are no longer standing together.

What it ensures is that David Cameron has returned from Afghanistan tonight to find himself at the centre of the row about media ethics, the power of the Murdoch empire and his own judgement in hiring Andy Coulson.

PS If you've a long memory you may recall that Rebekah Brooks - then Wade - inadvertently revealed in 2003 that her papers had paid police when under questioning at a Culture, Media and Sports Select Committee hearing.

(Ms Wade) We have paid the police for information in the past.

(Chris Bryant MP) And will you do it in the future?

(Ms Wade) It depends -

At which point Andy Coulson leapt in to rescue his boss and old friend.

(Mr Coulson) We operate within the code and within the law and if there is a clear public interest then we will. The same holds for private detectives, subterfuge, a video bag - whatever you want to talk about.

After this she "clarified" her evidence in a letter which stated that: "My intention was simply to comment generally on the widely-held belief that payments had been made in the past to police officers.

"If, in doing so, I gave the impression that I had knowledge of any specific cases, I can assure you that this was not my intention."
Of course she knew .....
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Of course she knew .....
What kind of editor would she be if she didn't know everything that was going on at her newspaper? Either way she should resign.
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What kind of editor would she be if she didn't know everything that was going on at her newspaper? Either way she should resign.
Exactly .....
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The family of a 7/7 London terror attack victim allegedly had their phones hacked by the News of the World as they waited for news after the bombing, it has emerged.

The latest revelation in the widening scandal comes as MPs prepare for an emergency debate on the issue in Parliament.

More hacking allegations against the tabloid have emerged in recent days, with claims the parents of murdered Soham girls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman were targeted, as well as Milly Dowler and her parents.

Graham Foulkes, father of 7/7 victim David, told Sky News he had been contacted by the Metropolitan Police who said they had discovered a file containing his phone number and address during the course of their investigations.

"In the last six years I have spent all my efforts focusing on the response of the emergency services, the police and MI5 so to realise that possibly without doubt the darkest point of anybody;s life, the thought that the press was listening in to those conversations is beyond description," he said.

"I would like to see News International hung, drawn and quartered."

Solicitor Clifford Tibber, who represents some of the 7/7 victims' families, told Sky News: "One of the families who I represent have been told by the team investigating that their phone numbers had turned up during the course of the investigation.


"My thoughts are first of all with the family. It has caused a huge amount of distress to know that the sort of calls they were having to make shortly after the London bombings had been listened to by a journalist.

"It has been a very, very distressing time for them.

"It really is the worst possible invasion of their privacy at a time of the worst possible distress any family could possibly suffer."

The claims fall on the day before the sixth anniversary of the attacks.

As the scandal spread, the private investigator Glenn Mulcaire, who hacked into phones for the News of the World, apologised "to anybody who was hurt or upset" by his activities.

In a statement given to The Guardian, he said: "I want to apologise to anybody who was hurt or upset by what I have done."



Mulcaire , who was convicted previously over earlier hacking activities for the paper, said he is now suffering "vilification" as a result of widespread condemnation.

"Much has been published in the media about me. Up to now, I have not responded publicly in any way to all the stories but in the light of the publicity over the last 24 hours, I feel I must break my silence," his statement said.

"I want to apologise to anybody who was hurt or upset by what I have done. I've been to court. I've pleaded guilty. And I've gone to prison and been punished. I still face the possibility of further criminal prosecution."

Mulcaire and ex-News of the World royal editor Clive Goodman were given jail terms in January 2007 after the Old Bailey heard they plotted to hack into royal aides' telephone messages.


Mulcaire sought to mitigate his actions by blaming demanding work schedules.

"Working for the News of the World was never easy. There was relentless pressure," his Guardian statement said.

"There was a constant demand for results. I knew what we did pushed the limits ethically. But, at the time, I didn't understand that I had broken the law at all."

"A lot of information I obtained was simply tittle-tattle, of no great importance to anyone, but sometimes what I did was for what I thought was the greater good, to carry out investigative journalism."


The scandal engulfing the newspaper has stepped up in recent days, engulfing the families of murder victims Milly Dowler and Soham girls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.

Messages on the mobile phone of Milly , who was then missing, were allegedly listened to and some were deleted.


Cambridgeshire police also confirmed that the families of 10-year-olds Jessica and Holly, who were murdered in 2002 by school caretaker Ian Huntley in Soham, were contacted by the Metropolitan Police.

Simon Greenberg, head of corporate affairs for NotW parent company News International, told Sky's Jeff Randall that his company had uncovered new details relating to voicemail interception.

"I think we have found significant new information that certainly helps us get closer to establishing the facts of the case about who was involved," Mr Greenberg said.

Mr Greenberg was asked by Randall if the phone belonging to the parents of Sarah Payne, an eight-year-old girl murdered in 2000, was also hacked, but he replied it was something he was "not aware of".


Later, News International released a statement about passing new evidence important to the police inquiry.

"As a result of media enquiries, it is correct to state that new information has recently been provided to the police," the News International statement said.

The tabloid's former editor Rebekah Brooks , who is now News International chief executive, said she was "appalled and shocked" by the claims but she has refused to resign , and denied any knowledge of impropriety.

According to Sky News chief political correspondent Jon Craig, Ms Brooks' deputy Andy Coulson, who went on to become Prime Minister David Cameron's communication director in Downing Street, is also now embroiled in the controversy.


"This time it is not about phone hacking, it is about payments to police," Craig said.

" Vanity Fair magazine says Mr Coulson 'condoned' payments by his members of staff at the News of the World to Scotland Yard officers, according to emails the company has handed over to police."

"Suddenly we are not just talking about phone hacking, we are also talking about payments to police.


"For those critics out for blood in the Commons emergency debate, this shows evidence of collusion between the paper and police."

Labour MP Chris Bryant, who is among those pursuing litigation in the High Court over alleged hacking, has been granted the emergency debate on hacking in the House of Commons on Wednesday.

He told Sky News that a judicial inquiry was the only way to bring the whole truth to light.


"We need to get to the bottom of two things: what was the scale of the criminality at the News of the World, and secondly, and equally importantly, why did the police do nothing about it in 2006?" Mr Bryant said.

"What I would do is set up the inquiry and adjourn it immediately, so it would be a sword of Damocles hanging over the police investigation because there is a danger as time goes on people will leave the scene, leave the country and shred the evidence and we need to make sure there isn't a cover-up of the cover-up."
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If it's so easy for Newspapers to hack into people's phones, imagine what the government and military must be doing...

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If this is proven then the News of the World should be stopped from publishing. It is a disgrace and of course the wider question is just as what Lostalex said, it makes you wonder if a newsapaper can do these things then what one earth do we not know as to what the Govt may be doing too.

I think already the News of the World has been shown unfit to be in business but if this report is confirmed as well then it should 100% be folded up completely.
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When Brooks says "Kiss my ***", Cameron is only too ready to oblige .....

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The end of the NoTW is nigh, then .....
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It all seems to be piling up day after day,even the Police are coming out of this badly if the exchanging of money is as it is reported to be.

How the News of the World can go on after this is beyond all comprehension.
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Hope the NOTW pays the ultimate price for their actions!
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Sick thing to do, those poor families.

Hope the NOTW pays the ultimate price for their actions!
I really do too,in fact I think if I had my way I would stop the News of the World reporting anything at this point in time and make a final decision as to its future,(if it has one left),after all the investigations are completed.
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Sadly they'll recover from this, they'll find themselves a scapegoat and it'll be business as usual in a few weeks.
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