Originally Posted by tmi

Bib the thing is people who claim benefits get as much as people on incomes , the reason they stay on benefits is there no incenitive to work. They have rent and polltax paid only have to pay water rates, electric and gas. Id like to know how people on benefits can afford all mod cons and the people who earn a decent living are struggling to hold down a job and earn enough to keep families, where is the mad smiley.

Exactly. And it's when they complain about the state of the country at the moment which really ticks me off. It's their own doing of bleeding the system dry. The Government are as much to blame for letting them do it. But like you say, there is no incentive to get off your ass and get a job.

I have this really snobbish attitude towards people like that and it really pisses me off. I know I shouldn't but I do look down on them. They make out that they have it hard but it's them who refuse to better themselves so I refuse to be sympathetic.

[Stu]

To be fair I know a load of people that are genuinly stuck on benefit and they would laugh at the idea that it's as easy as working. Fact is it's not. If it is, and like those people you are talking about with all the mod cons, chances are they have their fingers in some other pie like drug dealing.

I have no care for scroungers either but the ones genuinly stuck on the dole will all tell you it sucks. It's not easy. They would rather work.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by mathews220

Exactly. And it's when they complain about the state of the country at the moment which really ticks me off. It's their own doing of bleeding the system dry. The Government are as much to blame for letting them do it. But like you say, there is no incentive to get off your ass and get a job.

I have this really snobbish attitude towards people like that and it really pisses me off. I know I shouldn't but I do look down on them. They make out that they have it hard but it's them who refuse to better themselves so I refuse to be sympathetic.

Dont get me started on the people who come in though the backdoor and have all the freebies and we cant claim a dime. They should cap it like Australia bloody human rights there is a big difference between scratching a itch and acratching it to shreds. I wonder if people from here went through the backdoor elsewhere would they get free house and benefits not on your focking nelle.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

To be fair I know a load of people that are genuinly stuck on benefit and they would laugh at the idea that it's as easy as working. Fact is it's not. If it is, and like those people you are talking about with all the mod cons, chances are they have their fingers in some other pie like drug dealing.

I have no care for scroungers either but the ones genuinly stuck on the dole will all tell you it sucks. It's not easy. They would rather work.

I agree there are a few like you quoted but not a lot, but there should be more incentives for them to get of their @rse.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by tmi

Bib the thing is people who claim benefits get as much as people on incomes , the reason they stay on benefits is there no incenitive to work. They have rent and polltax paid only have to pay water rates, electric and gas. Id like to know how people on benefits can afford all mod cons and the people who earn a decent living are struggling to hold down a job and earn enough to keep families, where is the mad smiley.

My mate is on income support and wants to get back into work. But he would have to be earning something ridiculous like 2 grand a month just to break even with what hes getting now(rent, council tax, actual fortnightly money, free perscriptions/dental treatment etc)

Noone, or not many, will go back into work, if they are going to be struggling/worse off because of it.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

My mate is on income support and wants to get back into work. But he would have to be earning something ridiculous like 2 grand a month just to break even with what hes getting now(rent, council tax, actual fortnightly money, free perscriptions/dental treatment etc)

Noone, or not many, will go back into work, if they are going to be struggling/worse off because of it.

I know a few like that.

[Marc]

tmi.. your dog is lush.

I went to your profile to post this but I couldn't post on your profile. So here it is.. nice dog.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by tmi

I agree there are a few like you quoted but not a lot, but there should be more incentives for them to get of their @rse.

A few but not a lot?

You believe in these times that the amount of people on welfare who genuinly don't want to be amounts to 'not a lot'?

I'm sorry but that's unfounded, frivilous bullshit of the highest order. The scroungers are high in number but still represent the minority. Most people on the dole do not want to be there.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Marc.

tmi.. your dog is lush.

I went to your profile to post this but I couldn't post on your profile. So here it is.. nice dog.

Collie is Tilly and the avatar is lucky also have polecats(ferrets)

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

A few but not a lot?

You believe in these times that the amount of people on welfare who genuinly don't want to be amounts to 'not a lot'?

I'm sorry but that's unfounded, frivilous bullshit of the highest order. The scroungers are high in number but still represent the minority. Most people on the dole do not want to be there.

I dont know the stats , but I have my opnion and you have yours.

Freedom of speech and all that.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Stu

A few but not a lot?

You believe in these times that the amount of people on welfare who genuinly don't want to be amounts to 'not a lot'?

I'm sorry but that's unfounded, frivilous bullshit of the highest order. The scroungers are high in number but still represent the minority. Most people on the dole do not want to be there.

Exactly.

The amount of people getting laid off from work is at a ridiculous high...and then on top of losing their jobs they have to deal with snobs looking down on them for being scroungers...just because of a minority who dont actually want to work

There simply isnt the jobs to go round

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

A few but not a lot?

You believe in these times that the amount of people on welfare who genuinly don't want to be amounts to 'not a lot'?

I'm sorry but that's unfounded, frivilous bullshit of the highest order. The scroungers are high in number but still represent the minority. Most people on the dole do not want to be there.

You should have also seen a few posts above when I said that people need incentives to get of the dole . Also people on low earning can have tax credits also can have wroking tax credits if no children, times are hard.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by tmi

You should have also seen a few posts above when I said that people need incentives to get of the dole . Also people on low earning can have tax credits also can have wroking tax credits if no children, times are hard.

I did see that.

I just really really hate when people make out that people on the dole are scroungers. Or even that the majority are scroungers. I've been on the dole myself before and had to deal with people looking down on me because of it. And its pathetic and snobbish to do that tbh.(not directed at you...but of anyone who holds ^^^ opinion)

[Stu]

Hey we all have our opinions lol.

[King Gizzard]

Good things I use to use chavs for..they use to willingly take the blame for **** when you've done it, weirdly (just to get out of class)

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

Hey we all have our opinions lol.

Hitler was mad . didnt he use propaganda to only put out what he wanted people to know .

[Stu]

Originally Posted by tmi

Hitler was mad . didnt he use propaganda to only put out what he wanted people to know .

Not to get all tin foil hat but virtually every other government does the exact same thing just to a less menacing, less obvious effect.

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

Not to get all tin foil hat but virtually every other government does the exact same thing just to a less menacing, less obvious effect.

I agree I think Hitler had great mind but his ideas were so cruel off the ricta scale.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Stu

Hey we all have our opinions lol.

Hahaha, yeah, we do. Don't mind fashion chavs, but the lazy ones sitting on the dole who reckon they've all swagger are just...no comment.

[Stu]

Richter scale?

He didn't have a great mind. He was an idiot. An absoloutely vile human being. He was certainly highly intelligent in his own way but that doesn't automatically equate to having a great mind, IMO.

He was a master of visual identity though. No doubt about that. It's easy to see why so many German adolescents bought into the third reich. They looked cool - no two ways about it.

We've gone way off topic here .

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Stu

Richter scale?

He didn't have a great mind. He was an idiot. An absoloutely vile human being. He was certainly highly intelligent in his own way but that doesn't automatically equate to having a great mind, IMO.

He was a master of visual identity though. No doubt about that. It's easy to see why so many German adolescents bought into the third reich. They looked cool - no two ways about it.

We've gone way off topic here .

Bib Ok spelling crap ,I agree with the propaganda thing though the Government promised the world and delivered nothing, just cuts more cuts.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Stu

Richter scale?

He didn't have a great mind. He was an idiot. An absoloutely vile human being. He was certainly highly intelligent in his own way but that doesn't automatically equate to having a great mind, IMO.

He was a master of visual identity though. No doubt about that. It's easy to see why so many German adolescents bought into the third reich. They looked cool - no two ways about it.

We've gone way off topic here .

I noticed.

Don't like lazy chavs sitting on the dole chewing ****.

[King Gizzard]

Can't believe I've forgotten all about Nazi Germany and the Third Reich from a-level

Then again I did get a U..

[tmi]

Originally Posted by Nate

Can't believe I've forgotten all about Nazi Germany and the Third Reich from a-level

Then again I did get a U..

I did for it for Gcse can someone please answer a question way way of topic when was Gcse first brought into force rather than o level and whats a level module Gcse compared to a two year final exam Gsce, is the module bitsize like (nvq)

[King Gizzard]

Education sucks, well A levels did anyway. Rather then learn about the subject, from day one you just learned about how to answer the question at an exam..so dull