[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Of course they are. I like animals but I'd never put one's life above a human's.

Why "of course"?

[Stu]

Is a human life more important than an animals? To me yes because I'm a human [except in extreme cases like the above]. However I have no grudge with the tiger that disagrees.

Also had a minor pants explosion at Dezzy's current Last FM play.

[ILoveTRW]

my dogs life is more important than 99% of humans but on the whole humans>animals

[Livia]

I think all sentient life is important. As humans are in a unique position of power, we have a duty to make sure animals don't suffer in our care, that if they're eaten they are humanely slaughtered, that their habitat is protected and that they're not subjected to cruelty or neglect at our hands.

[InOne]

As people have said, depends on the human.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Six hunters were sent in by the emergency services to kill the mother bear and her three cubs.

(why?)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1VIlJNFW5

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Six hunters were sent in by the emergency services to kill the mother bear and her three cubs.

(why?)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1VIlJNFW5

what a horrific story!

[Grimnir]

humans>>>animals>>>sub human animals

[Shaun]

I'd have to say so.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I think I think of humans as more important because I am one..

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I know you want to provoke discussion but sometimes you just sound plain stupid. .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

I know you want to provoke discussion but sometimes you just sound plain stupid. .

Only to those who cant be bothered to contribute but happily play "look at me"

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Only to those who cant be bothered to contribute but happily play "look at me"

I already contributed my answer. Not everyone who thinks you are pushing it a bit is trying to get attention. I suppose playing Christian apologetics for a year or two and then switching to rampant nihlism has nothing to do with playing 'look at me'?

We create the meaning in our lives. We empathise with humans more than any other animal and rightly so. I could sit here all day providing biological/evolutionary/neurological reasons why that is the case. I could discuss it in poetic or scientific terms.

Valuing human life more than the lives of other species is not the massive leap of faith or arrogant stance of assumption you're making it out to be.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

I already contributed my answer. Not everyone who thinks you are pushing it a bit is trying to get attention. I suppose playing Christian apologetics for a year or two and then switching to rampant nihlism has nothing to do with playing 'look at me'?

We create the meaning in our lives. We empathise with humans more than any other animal and rightly so. I could sit here all day providing biological/evolutionary/neurological reasons why that is the case. I could discuss it in poetic or scientific terms.

Valuing human life more than the lives of other species is not the massive leap of faith or arrogant stance of assumption you're making it out to be.

Thankyou Stuart

You may now clear up your things, put away your utensils and head off to prayers with the other boys.

Oh and Stuart, dont think i dont see the earring.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I think it's more to do with reason, intellect, emotion, the opposable thumb and being at the top of the food chain than religion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think it's more to do with reason, intellect, emotion, the opposable thumb and being at the top of the food chain than religion.

But we all know that we are not more important but that we make it so in our own minds.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But we all know that we are not more important but that we make it so in our own minds.

I suppose it's to do with what you consider 'important' to mean. All animals have their place and their function in the scheme of things. Maybe not the wasp, which is the skinhead of the insect world.

[CharlieO]

Unfortunately I'd have to say yes because I eat animals.

[Captain.Remy]

Of course yes.

Whoever says the contrary has social issues.

Animals are good. In my stomach. This is how life goes baby. We eat them. No pity.

[Doogle]

My friends and family and myself, and people I sort of know, yes.

But I'd rather a stranger or someone I dislike die than an animal. Unless it was like an ant.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Nope, I'd save my dog over anyone i dont like.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Nope, I'd save my dog over anyone i dont like.

Big Society

[MeMyselfAndI]

What??

[joeysteele]

A really excellent question Leather Trumpet,wow, it's a tricky one,I think I would say saving a Human over an Animal should be more important but I can't, I couldn't say that I would save a HUman over any Animal.

It would really depend on the circumstances,our family dog for instance, I doubt I would save anyone other than my family over him.

Brilliant question LT, you have me for one, stumped on this one for a definitive answer.