[Mac Hiavellian]

I don't want the Scots to be independant for my own selfish reasons - I just simply like them being part of the UK because it makes the UK more diverse and built up. I absolutely love the Scottish, Welsh and Irish (and Manc) accents and think an accent automatically makes some people more interesting

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

I don't want the Scots to be independant for my own selfish reasons - I just simply like them being part of the UK because it makes the UK more diverse and built up. I absolutely love the Scottish, Welsh and Irish (and Manc) accents and think an accent automatically makes some people more interesting

No this is Scotlands Right
to Stand Alone
They Want It


Let them be Free.


It will not change how you view them.

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by arista

No this is Scotlands Right
to Stand Alone
They Want It


Let them be Free.


It will not change how you view them.

It won't change how I view the Scots but it'll change how I view the UK if Scotland isn't part of the UK anymore

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

It won't change how I view the Scots but it'll change how I view the UK if Scotland isn't part of the UK anymore

Well thats what they can Vote on in 2015.


I am sure you will get used to this change
after all the Comedy sketches that will be made on this.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

I don't want the Scots to be independant for my own selfish reasons - I just simply like them being part of the UK because it makes the UK more diverse and built up. I absolutely love the Scottish, Welsh and Irish (and Manc) accents and think an accent automatically makes some people more interesting

Salmond is an Arsehole with a capital "A" he speaks for himself, NOT for the majority of Scots, AND he will not get his way in his dumb referendum.

Edit: Wee fat Eck has delusional dreams of "being a player" on the World's stage. Puir wee bastid!

[Crimson Dynamo]

we have plenty of our own self serving numpty politicians to run our own country so we dont need English ones.

Its an inevitability. We had the union foisted upon us and it is natural to now, in more civilized times, ask if we want it.

we dont

[Niall]

I'm in two minds over this. One part of me thinks that its an awful thing to be parting ways with Scotland because of all the history there is between the rest of the UK and Scotland.

Then another part of me thinks that it could better finance-wise 'cause then the country wouldn't be responsible for HBOS and all that.

Idk I'm not that clued up on it all really.

[andybigbro]

i dont want scotland to be independant. i dont see the point in it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

i dont want scotland to be independant. i dont see the point in it.

It means they will stand on there own feet.


It makes great sense as many predict we are in a 10 year down turn.

[arista]

"good stuff as we keep that here."

You do not know.

AsdaWalmart buys direct.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by arista

"good stuff as we keep that here."

You do not know.

AsdaWalmart buys direct.

You do not know.

We have a top secret vault where the best shortbread is kept. It is protected by sabre toothed haggises. AsdaWalmart cannot buy direct.

Sign of the times.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Lee.

You do not know.

We have a top secret vault where the best shortbread is kept. It is protected by sabre toothed haggises. AsdaWalmart cannot buy direct.

Sign of the times.

I do know I buy Quality.
With Made In Scotland on it.



You can have your 'special' mix
I am Overjoyed with Pure Butter Scottish Shortbread
Utter Quality at AsdaWalmart.




Feel The Force.

[joeysteele]

I personally would be very sad indeed if Scotland was fully independent,I love the Country and the people.
My hope is that more in the devolution process can keep Scotland as part of the UK. I also still doubt the Scots would vote for full independence though.

Scotland,as has Wales and England too been badly served by Govts. of both major parties and now as they were turning a fair bit more to the Lib Dems, they have let them down badly too.

Alex Salmond is a really great leader for Scotland and has his finger far more on the pulse than near all Westminster politicians.

I am of Scottish ancestry on my Dad's side and Independent or not I will always look on the Scots as good people and a great Country. I just hope we all stay together though.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I personally would be very sad indeed if Scotland was fully independent,I love the Country and the people.
My hope is that more in the devolution process can keep Scotland as part of the UK. I also still doubt the Scots would vote for full independence though.

Scotland,as has Wales and England too been badly served by Govts. of both major parties and now as they were turning a fair bit more to the Lib Dems, they have let them down badly too.

Alex Salmond is a really great leader for Scotland and has his finger far more on the pulse than near all Westminster politicians.

I am of Scottish ancestry on my Dad's side and Independent or not I will always look on the Scots as good people and a great Country. I just hope we all stay together though.

No it will be Fun.


And he can pick the €uro in 2015
or stay with his own pound.


I will Fly up to the New Nation
be great for New Trade Deals.
In Dollars.




Feel The Force.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I personally would be very sad indeed if Scotland was fully independent,I love the Country and the people.My hope is that more in the devolution process can keep Scotland as part of the UK. I also still doubt the Scots would vote for full independence though.

Scotland,as has Wales and England too been badly served by Govts. of both major parties and now as they were turning a fair bit more to the Lib Dems, they have let them down badly too.

Alex Salmond is a really great leader for Scotland and has his finger far more on the pulse than near all Westminster politicians.

I am of Scottish ancestry on my Dad's side and Independent or not I will always look on the Scots as good people and a great Country. I just hope we all stay together though.

I can see you are going to be a great politician.

[Maia]

As long as we still have our Pure Butter Scottish Shortbread from AsdaWalmart then all is good

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

As long as we still have our Pure Butter Scottish Shortbread from AsdaWalmart then all is good

Bang On Right.

[billy123]

Good luck to them if thats what they decide to do it is fuelled by the wrong reasons but hey ho.

P.S. Arista keep your asda muck its Deans of Huntly shortbread or nothing!

[arista]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Good luck to them if thats what they decide to do it is fuelled by the wrong reasons but hey ho.

P.S. Arista keep your asda muck its Deans of Huntly shortbread or nothing!

Its Not Muck.


Its Quality.


Yes Good Luck To Scotland
its there Call.

[arista]

Cameron's great Scottish gamble: Premier wants to force early vote on independence

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1ixJ1ZdmM

Of Course the PM may ask
but it will be a No.



Dave and Alex
sort it out.

Let Scotland be Free.

[lostalex]

I've always been confused about the UK system between "countries". Like for instance, do the "countries" of the UK have more or less independence and freedom than the individual States in the US? Do the "countries" in the UK have the ability to make their own laws and stuff like the individual US states? Make their own tax system? their judicial systems? their own gambling laws, drug laws, drinking laws, etc??

I know when the Lockerbie bomber was released, the Uk government said "Scotland made this decision, not the UK", so that said to me that Scotland already has some kind of judicial freedom atleast.

I'd really like to understand more about the Uk system before i make a judgement of whether Scotland is being reasonable or not.

[arista]

Yes Scotland has its own Law System.

He could apply to join the Deadly €uro, if Scotland gets free
but he gets in a waiting list as other nations are ahead of him

[joeysteele]

Why doesn't Mr. Cameron and the coalition pull the rug from under Alex Salmond's feet and have the referendum anyway with 3 options, No or Yes to independence and also another option for greater devolution with more control particularly over finance.

In all fact, an SNP referendum for independence would not be binding on the UK Govt as a whole, so Mr. Cameron would need to consult the rest of the UK as well.
However, he could have a referendum on the issue, claiming the SNP had brought it to a head and the matter needed clearing up once and for all.

I still don't think the Scots would vote for full independence but one thing is sure Alex Salmond has his finger on the pulse of Scotland, he has served them well as First Minister.
The independence of a part of the UK has to be granted though by the UK Parliament, so all this huffing and puffing by David Cameron is meaningless unless he himself goes ahead and decided to hold a referendum on the issue and he could hold it throughout the whole of the UK too.

It wasn't in the Conservative's manifesto but he would get this through Parliament easily to hold a referendum on the issue,he has wasted plenty of finance and resources on other things, this one more won't make much difference and he may even come out of it with some credibility and be the leader who in the end settled the Scottish independence issue and maybe even managed to hold the UK together too.

[arista]

"Mr. Cameron would need to consult the rest of the UK as well."

We in England would Vote for a Republic of Scotland
as the Money we spend on them would come back to us.

[lostalex]

I think it's kinda like the French Quebecois in Canada. I think they consider themselves a cultural minority in their own country, but i think deep down they still identify with their country. I can't imagine the Scots or the Quebecois being trully independent countries.