[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Aaron totally understand that his HMs dont really matter, he could be up every week as long as the public like him it wont matter. And he has achieved that by being as genuine as anyone can be in the BB house. Do I think hes exactly like this in the real world? No none of them are, or ever have been in any series since BB1.

His gameplan is simple, dont bitch about others, dont be spiteful or nasty, be honest and true and consistent = and holy moses its worked !!!

I disagree with that, if you go into the house with any serious ambitions toward winning, i think you totally have to factor in keeping your fellow HMs on side. As soon as you become too ostracized from the group, rightly or wrongly, it rubs off on your public perception. Aaron's been fortunate that he's had some good weeks with the group, as well as the bad weeks. If all his time was spent dis associating with the group, and not concerning himself with their opinions of him, the public would have been more and more pissed off at his attitude to the point that his support numbers would have been down enough for him to be evicted.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I disagree with that, if you go into the house with any serious ambitions toward winning, i think you totally have to factor in keeping your fellow HMs on side. As soon as you become too ostracized from the group, rightly or wrongly, it rubs off on your public perception. Aaron's been fortunate that he's had some good weeks with the group, as well as the bad weeks. If all his time was spent dis associating with the group, and not concerning himself with their opinions of him, the public would have been more and more pissed off at his attitude to the point that his support numbers would have been down enough for him to be evicted.

Im not saying to deliberately p*** them off or push them away, clearly that would affect his public perception as well. You misunderstand my point.

He is just his own person, and as such there are times when the HMs like him and times they think he's a total bellend. And being his own person means he is and generally has been unpopular with the HMs from day 1 pretty much. And no it hasnt affected how the public see him, neither has the hatchet job BB have attempted on him.

Cause, like I said he understands that if hes true to himself and consistent, then he has little to fear. Thats why weeks back he knew Anton would be hated, cause he knew how dishonest, snidey, unpleasant and generally sexist Anton had been. He totally understands what the public want, and no doubt what he liked when he watched BB (as he is a big fan of the show)

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Im not saying to deliberately p*** them off or push them away, clearly that would affect his public perception as well. You misunderstand my point.

He is just his own person, and as such there are times when the HMs like him and times they think he's a total bellend. And being his own person means he is and generally has been unpopular with the HMs from day 1 pretty much. And no it hasnt affected how the public see him, neither has the hatchet job BB have attempted on him.

Cause, like I said he understands that if hes true to himself and consistent, then he has little to fear. Thats why weeks back he knew Anton would be hated, cause he knew how dishonest, snidey, unpleasant and generally sexist Anton had been. He totally understands what the public want, and no doubt what he liked when he watched BB (as he is a big fan of the show)

Of course being his own person has affected the way the public see's him. A perfect example is when he voted against the group plan the other day, he likely went from having a 30-40% chance of winning BB to a 20% chance of winning. I'm absolutely NOT saying what he did was morally right or wrong. But, what i am saying is that his actions gave his HMs and the public the ammunition needed to discredit him. If he simply followed orders he'd definitely have a far better chance of winning right now.

[GabbygalEvs]

great points there in that post

its got to be the worst gameplan ever lol

[GabbygalEvs]

great points there in that post

its got to be the worst gameplan ever lol

[Visage]

Great post, totally agree with it and we've been harping on about this for weeks, so it's great to read this is active on other forums. Thanks Vicky for posting this

[jet]

Originally Posted by Visage

Great post, totally agree with it and we've been harping on about this for weeks, so it's great to read this is active on other forums. Thanks Vicky for posting this

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by jet

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic.

What im loving is your desperate attempt to claw some victory from an epic fail. Everything in that post proves he isnt a gameplayer (as people like you suggest) but that hes a flawed and complex, but honest and decent bloke.

I dont see how that IN ANY WAY proves what people like you have been saying (thats hes a gameplaying weasel)

So please enlighten me then, how is that post right if you still believe hes a gameplayer? I mean clearly the post is typed in a way to highlight how his detractors view his actions.

You know people like you, they view everything he does as nasty and malicious, yet also say hes a game player. The two things cannot both be true. Its not aimed at his fans, we know that those events did happen but not in the way or for the reasons you suggest.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by jet

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic.

I've never blasted anyone on here regardless of who they support. I've also never posted that I think Aaron is some Lord who can do no wrong. He's my favourite in there and there are times when he pisses me off too.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by jet

I find it hilarious that the poster has listed the negative things about Aaron that the non Aaron fans have been saying all along and getting blasted for and nobody seems to have realized it. You are all actually admitting we were right. This is classic.

Oh Wow

I so missed that Jet

[Qouting Op's Qoute]
So lets look at Aaron. What's he done to endear himself to his housemates and the viewers?

Be constantly moody and sulky.
Don't be a team player.
Pretend to fancy some housemates and then make them jealous by snogging someone else.
Deliberately fail tasks when your Housemates are desperate for food.
Get together with a girl 10 years younger than you and then keep falling out with her and upsetting her and ignoring her (that will endear him to all the female viewers and parents out there!)
[End Qoute]

[Cromwell1900]

Didn't Aaron say he was going in with a game plan on his entry VT i think?

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Didn't Aaron say he was going in with a game plan on his entry VT i think?

Yeah he did.

That said everyone who goes into BB generally say anything to aid them an entry ticket.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Visage

Yeah he did.

That said everyone who goes into BB generally say anything to aid them an entry ticket.

But then we saw something on Day 1 which clearly supported the claim

i.e Rebeckah i like you turns around walks off and mutters i hate that girl

Day 1

Was his admission to manipulating noms to Gem not an indication of a continuation of his game plan?

[Nine Lives]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

But then we saw something on Day 1 which clearly supported the claim

i.e Rebeckah i like you turns around walks off and mutters i hate that girl

Day 1

Was his admission to manipulating noms to Gem not an indication of a continuation of his game plan?

That was Week One, not Day One, and Rebeckah had just spent god knows how long (we only saw an edited version) slagging Aaron to his face left and right, insulting his personality and values, saying Aden was more of a man than he would ever be, and chewing him out for trying to make jokes. He pulled her aside to try to clear the air, and she ended it by shouting an insult at his face as she walked off. That was when he muttered how he hated her.

As for manipulating the noms, he got himself on the block to give Faye a better chance at staying. What a monster.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

That was Week One, not Day One, and Rebeckah had just spent god knows how long (we only saw an edited version) slagging Aaron to his face left and right, insulting his personality and values, saying Aden was more of a man than he would ever be, and chewing him out for trying to make jokes. He pulled her aside to try to clear the air, and she ended it by shouting an insult at his face as she walked off. That was when he muttered how he hated her.

As for manipulating the noms, he got himself on the block to give Faye a better chance at staying. What a monster.

Im pretty sure it was Day 1 and it came after a making up where by Rebeckah and Aaron had clashed in the bedroom and before that in the toilet about her peeing on an x. It was a making up conversation that's how it ended, and Aaron saying

I like you

Reb turns around

I Hate you

Yep pretty confident of that

And of course peeing on someone is an arguable reason for hating someone but that's not the point the point is. It's two faced, and the sign of a game i.e keeping someone sweet.

And the noms thing, well your polarizing the argument really by making it about monsters or saints, good guys bad guys, it's not about that at all it's about is he playing a game. regardless of his reasoning manipulating votes by it's very definition strikes me as Game

[Visage]

I think we got there in the end..

[Angus]

So what if Aaron is moody and sulky at times? Jeez the amount of cr*p he's had thrown his way by BB itself as well as his fellow HMs has been disgusting. NONE of the other HMs have had to deal with anything like the hatchet job Channel 5 have tried (and failed) to do on him throughout the whole show. On top of that he is with the nightmare that is Faye who has played mind games with him throughout. He's bloody entitled to be moody and sulky - and most reasonable people would cut him some slack.

Some people deal with anger and frustration aggressively like Jay and Anton, and to a lesser extent Harry, some deal with it passive/aggressively like Tom and Faye, constantly sniping and turning every situation around to make themselves the victim. Aaron deals with it by removing himself from the situation causing him stress - so why don't people just get that everyone's way of coping is different? I admire him for not faking his persona, he has shown us every side of himself, and those that like him take the good with the bad, just as we do in real life with people we choose to be our friends. We either decide the bad outweighs the good and avoid like the plague, or that the good outweighs the bad and makes a friendship worthwhile.

I maintain that every single HM has a game plan, some are better than others. Alex's is clearly successful in that she has been deliberately inoffensive and avoided being nominated by her fellow HMs and sailed through to the final. Jay's and Louise's is blindingly obvious, a fauxmance where neither rock the boat, pity they're both so repulsive. Jay's original game plan (the pathetic wolfpack) was destroyed by Aaron, so he must be thanking his lucky stars he had the backup of the fauxmance. Tom's is to attach himself to the obvious favourite (I'm sure they all got a good heads up from Jemma), and to sail under the radar. Faye's was to attach herself to Aaron once she knew he was popular and play the on/off romance game which is wrongly attributed to Aaron, when in fact it is all down to her "Don't speak to me ever again"/ "Why aren't you talking to me Aaron?" cr*p that cause all the problems.

Then we have the more blatant gameplayers like Anton, who cast himself as the master villain, and Harry the mischievous posh guy who took no sh*t from anyone. Aaron, a massive BB fan, approached it all a bit more clinically and has read the house well, being able to work out nominations etc and using his natural charm and intelligence to work people out and outwit his enemies in the house.`He has orchestrated getting certain HMs up for eviction and helping the public to rid the house of them.

Of course, he has p*ssed off people in the house else they wouldn't have put him up for eviction, and I admire that he hasn't crawl a*sed around the other HMs to avoid it. It must be baffling to the HMs why he is so popular! However, he has not tried to deceive the viewers by adopting a fake persona - he has just been himself, awkward, geeky, somewhat straitlaced around a bunch of people whose habits and conversation often border on the obscene and the obnoxious. He is basically a decent, likeable, often very funny guy whose morals and values obviously resonate with a fair number of people who have been glued to BB purely to watch HIM.

He is probably the most unique and charismatic BB HM ever, the most talked about (whether good or bad) and has contributed more to the show than any other HM.
Will he win? Well a lot of us think he deserves it more than anyone else left in the house, so no doubt we will do our best to ensure that he does. Regardless of whether he does win or not, he will definitely go down in BB history as one of the all time great HMs.