[rk3388]

no channel 5 wants aaron to win, so they want him to get more sympathy votes

[lucyann]

Originally Posted by rk3388

no channel 5 wants aaron to win, so they want him to get more sympathy votes

I think the opposite, i have thought for weeks that channel 5 did not want Aaron to win. BOTS especially has been Aaron bashing so much that i stopped watching it.
In my opinion i could understand Jay's frustration with Aaron yesterday but we only get to see an hour a day of what really is said etc. Perhaps a lot more went on that we didn't get to see and that is why we need live feed.
That said i really hope Aaron wins

[Locke.]

Nothing wrong with what he done on tonights show

[MachoPoodle]

The only thing that bugs me about Jay's behaviour regarding this is his apologies to Aaron, frankly. Those were cringe worthy. Otherwise he's impressed me a lot, I liked him before, but I didn't realize quite how perceptive and sensible he actually is.

[soundslike]

Jay has obviously got issues with his temper but to me that big old manchild Aaron is goading him. He is a sulky vile pig. I am not surprise jay lost it. I am not a jay fan but the constant crap about him only trying to talk to Aaron because he is popular is getting on my nerves. Aaron was booed heavily not long ago.


No jay is being the better man and trying to make the last few days fun instead of truly awful as Aaron is making it for the others. People behave differently depending on their upbringing. Jay for me has come a long way he has managed to control his anger at a sulky old man constantly playing the victim in the house over the slightest thing.

He also has manners when BB left him with no towel and then opened the bedroom for him he was all thank you and he does it all the time, he is very polite in the DR. Everyone is different and I Am sure if he was as violent as you all make out he would not be in there.

All this crap about it's only Aaron that is why he is still in there is utter nonsense and making out Aaron is a victim which he isn't.

[joeysteele]

People do not goad others by avoiding them, Aaron had made it clear he had lost respect for Jay and Louise,(if he had any in the first place as I couldn't have).It is in effect a small house, their paths are bound to cross lots but it's easy to just ignore people if you need to.

When someone makes it clear they don't wish to speak to you, then the best course of action is to leave them to it. Jay would not accept that despite in a few days the likelihood of him and Aaron even ever seeing each other again, let alone talking, is near impossible.

No, Jay was the one harrassing, he wouldn't leave things with Aaron avoiding them, Aaron was making his stand.
I personally wouldn't have avoided Jay and Louise,I would have told them exactly what I thought of them but that is also a way with risks of more conflict.

Some people take the silence route, just avoid the aggression at all costs and avoid the people behind it too. Jay should have accepted that rather than spout out to BB and other housemates that he would kick the .... out of Aaron if he wasn't restricted in the house.
Jay showed he is an intimidating, bullying and very violent thug in reality and Aaron's avoiding him allowed that to be seen and heard by anyone who watched and listened.

If someone is avoiding another, not talking to them, then they keep harrassing them and bad mouthing them well,that says everything about the person doing that and nothing about the person who is keeping their own counsel in silence,thereby really harming no one.

Jay knew he looked really bad over the gifts episode,he knew he was coming over in a very bad way, Aaron has been like this from week 2,Jay should have been used to it and Jay was quite happy to ridicule Aaron and ignore him too when he had Anton and Aden as his henchmen puppets in the past.

[GabbygalEvs]

i think hes completely 2 aced has everyone forgot about the crypt and how he said he would rip it all apart and aarons going to look bad etc?

when his mate was there he was all for stiching aaron up as soon as anton left he changed his whole demeanour oh i really like the kid hes quite funny etc

what a fake

[HBB1508]

I actually found it amusing to watch - Jay was gunning for an argument and goading Aaron to kick off and Aaron totally owned him. The fact that Jay can not string a sentence together without swearing says a lot to me and imo the longer Aaron kept his cool the angrier Jay became until he had to up and walk off as he completely lost the argument. As for the character assissination bit - so funny that Jay didn't understand it. Aaron 10 points Jay nil points!!!

[Cynical]

Got to say, i think the whole situation was a big of a non-event in all honesty.

Just for the record, i want Aaron to win, and that is based purely on entertainment. However, regarding their discussion last night, i thought Jay really showed a likeable, genuine side to him, and ultimately i think he proved that he's a really nice lad deep down.

Admittedly, we haven't seen the half of what's been happening in there, but i think Aaron's attitude towards Jay has been very OTT. To Aaron's face, i actually think Jay has on the large been pretty respectful. Sure he might disagree with Jay's toilet humour, but he is hugely out of touch with reality if he thinks some 25 year old lads don't behave that way.

It's true Jay has made an effort throughout, which is actually a very decent thing to do. However, Aaron has continued to refuse the olive branch, and actually acted like a bit of a child in the process. Just sitting there and saying "i've got nothing to say to you" is an incredibly immature way to deal with a problem. Equally, the way Jay goes off on one and plays the hard-man act, does himself absolutely no favours.

To be honest, tragically, neither will win i don't think. People don't like bullies, and although i don't think Jay is a bully, the way he talks sometimes in the heat of the moment can come across like that. And as far as Aaron is concerned, i think he has been stitched up by the show. Harry's reaction and his mate last night have sold him down the swanny. It's one thing to play a game, but playing Faye (which i don't think he's doing) is another.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Cynical

Got to say, i think the whole situation was a big of a non-event in all honesty.

Just for the record, i want Aaron to win, and that is based purely on entertainment. However, regarding their discussion last night, i thought Jay really showed a likeable, genuine side to him, and ultimately i think he proved that he's a really nice lad deep down.

Admittedly, we haven't seen the half of what's been happening in there, but i think Aaron's attitude towards Jay has been very OTT. To Aaron's face, i actually think Jay has on the large been pretty respectful. Sure he might disagree with Jay's toilet humour, but he is hugely out of touch with reality if he thinks some 25 year old lads don't behave that way.

It's true Jay has made an effort throughout, which is actually a very decent thing to do. However, Aaron has continued to refuse the olive branch, and actually acted like a bit of a child in the process. Just sitting there and saying "i've got nothing to say to you" is an incredibly immature way to deal with a problem. Equally, the way Jay goes off on one and plays the hard-man act, does himself absolutely no favours.

To be honest, tragically, neither will win i don't think. People don't like bullies, and although i don't think Jay is a bully, the way he talks sometimes in the heat of the moment can come across like that. And as far as Aaron is concerned, i think he has been stitched up by the show. Harry's reaction and his mate last night have sold him down the swanny. It's one thing to play a game, but playing Faye (which i don't think he's doing) is another.

You make some very good points, and apart from the Faye thing and Aaron being stitched up by the show I agree with everything. This is a good example of the difference between having a fave HM (like you do) and go overboard and not being able to see any faults with your "chosen one". Perfection is an illusion anyway, there's not a single thing/person I like that don't have flaws.

[lostalex]

"verging on bullying"???

Well if you WANT to talk about bullying... let's talk about Aaron specifically targeting Alex the ENTIRE series, making her look like an idiot, and asking questions just to make her look more stupid. ANy fan of Aaron, cannot possibly claim bullying, after the way HE has ridiculed and humiliated Alex through out the entire series.


Aaron has taken every oppurtunity possible to point out how he thinks Alex is a ******. Every conversation we've seen between Aaron and Alex was basically just him asking her questions that he KNEW she didn't know the answer to, just to humiliate her.

He is a cruel POS.

[Cynical]

Originally Posted by lostalex

"verging on bullying"???

Well if you WANT to talk about bullying... let's talk about Aaron specifically targeting Alex the ENTIRE series, making her look like an idiot, and asking questions just to make her look more stupid. ANy fan of Aaron, cannot possibly claim bullying, after the way HE has ridiculed and humiliated Alex through out the entire series.


Aaron has taken every oppurtunity possible to point out how he thinks Alex is a ******. Every conversation we've seen between Aaron and Alex was basically just him asking her questions that he KNEW she didn't know the answer to, just to humiliate her.

He is a cruel POS.

Who are you talking to?

Also, ridiculous post. Aaron hasn't bullied Alex at all. He gave her a free pass through to the final above his girlfriend for **** sake! There "banter" is quite nice to watch actually. It's not bullying, it's like a big brother/little sister relationship.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cynical

Who are you talking to?

Also, ridiculous post. Aaron hasn't bullied Alex at all. He gave her a free pass through to the final above his girlfriend for **** sake! There "banter" is quite nice to watch actually. It's not bullying, it's like a big brother/little sister relationship.

HAHAHAHA could you be any more hipocritical??

So Aaron's game move saying he wants to take Alex to the final(and getting his "girlfriend" evicted) is NOT game playing...


...but Jay and Louise actually spending their OWn MONEY on a gift for tom and alex, is total game playing??

Aaron fans make no sense.

unbelievable how naive you lot are.

[Cynical]

Originally Posted by lostalex

HAHAHAHA could you be any more hipocritical??

So Aaron's game move saying he wants to take Alex to the final(and getting his "girlfriend" evicted) is NOT game playing...


...but Jay and Louise actually spending their OWn MONEY on a gift for tom and alex, is total game playing??

Aaron fans make no sense.

unbelievable how naive you lot are.

Er, read my post again. I actually stand up for Jay and talk slightly negatively about Aaron! If anything it was a balanced post. #rollseyes

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Jays foul mouthed ranting at Aaron for almost the entire first segment of tonights show. Was very unpleasant. He was relentless, verging on bullying esp when he said he was gonna follow Aaron around and be in his face. Will BB step in, will they hell. If he did it to anyone else he'd be out! then again....

Oh yes ,its a word i do not use often but it WAS bullying ,silly Louise sat at the side of her"man"smug as chuff Tom,Alex embarrassed by it

[lostalex]

IT'S NOT bullying though, because Aaron's manipulation has been to far wide reaching. Jay was not "bullying" Aaron, he was CALLING HIM OUT. it was an exposition. he was exposing Aaron, noit bullying him

And Aaron needs to be be exposed. He is vile.

Aaron has played this pathetic cat and mouse game the entire series. Aaron has a strop, and then hides in the corners til it blows over, this has happened over and over again.

Has Aaron ever been a part of the group ever? He';s always been the immature child playing the victim in the corner the whole series.

Can anyone name a single incidence where Aaron was victimized at all?? I can name several instances that Aaron victimized others.... but I can't think of a single instance where Aaron was targeted by anyone...

[Cynical]

Originally Posted by lostalex

IT'S NOT bullying though, because Aaron's manipulation has been to far wide reaching. Jay was not "bullying" Aaron, he was CALLING HIM OUT. it was an exposition. he was exposing Aaron, noit bullying him

And Aaron needs to be be exposed. He is vile.

Aaron has played this pathetic cat and mouse game the entire series. Aaron has a strop, and then hides in the corners til it blows over, this has happened over and over again.

Has Aaron ever been a part of the group ever? He';s always been the immature child playing the victim in the corner the whole series.

Can anyone name a single incidence where Aaron was victimized at all?? I can name several instances that Aaron victimized overs, but i can't think of a single instance where Aaron was targeted by anyone...

Ok, you are clearly just an Aaron-hater, unwilling to have a reasonable debate. If you actually bothered to read my post i said that Jay DIDN'T bully Aaron, but nevermind. There's no point debating with you.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cynical

Ok, you are clearly just an Aaron-hater, unwilling to have a reasonable debate. If you actually bothered to read my post i said that Jay DIDN'T bully Aaron, but nevermind. There's no point debating with you.

OKay, but you havn't responded to my accusation that actually Aaron has bullied others. including ALex, and Tom, and Faye...

you honestly don't think he has been the real manipulator of those people???

Im just saying Gem was right, and Faye's mom was right. Aaron never loved Faye, and he never cared for Harry.

Why is it that Harry has called Aaron the biggest liar and manipulator in the house,and all of Faye's family hates him too...

You think it's some grand conspiracy???

[lostalex]

Aaron is a sociopath. IMHO.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Aaron is a sociopath. IMHO.

Oh please

[Niamh.]

You could even see Louise wasn't comfortable about it. I say let it alone, only made Jay look like more of a twat.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You could even see Louise wasn't comfortable about it. I say let it alone, only made Jay look like more of a twat.

and you think jay looking like a "twat" is a good thing?
really? jay is a twat?

remind me again who is the twat, when Aaron has spend 2/3 of his time in the house throwing strops and giving people the "silent treatment" (as if aaron not talking is really a punishment) lol. Aaron is there because he's a drama queen. end of. He's the biggest drama queen in the house since makosi.

If you believe an y word that's come out of Aaron's mouth throughout the enitre series, well, then yur confusing to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

and you think jay looking like a "twat" is a good thing?
really? jay is a twat?

remind me again who is the twat, when Aaron has spend 2/3 of his time in the house throwing strops and giving people the "silent treatment" (as if aaron not talking is really a punishment) lol. Aaron is there because he's a drama queen. end of. He's the biggest drama queen in the house since makosi.

If you believe an y word that's come out of Aaron's mouth throughout the enitre series, well, then yur confusing to me.

2/3 of his time? Really? and you know this because you've got live feed access or what?

Personally, I prefer a person who goes away and doesn't speak to people until he's calm rather than a person who threatens violence and rants and raves.

Yes, I think Jay is a twat. He's ridiculously disgusting, doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

[dyfed]

Alex is so dumb,I could not believe it when she could not string two words together on her speech,is this a reflection of the youth in the UK,I hope not...why do you reward stupidity with votes..is it something you admire?

[Jordan.]

It wasn't uncomfortable or bullying at all. From a none Aaron fan point of view Jay was spot on with everything he said. All Aaron could do was look at his tea and whimper 'okay' occasionally. About time he was confronted about his behaviour and double standards.