[MTVN]

Originally Posted by SoBig

You can hardly tell the difference.

I thought that too, sheer pedantry

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I thought that too, sheer pedantry

In your opinion MTVN.... anyone who knows anything about their country, should be able to tell when their country's flag is flown the right way or not. It's hardly rocket science.

[Mystic Mock]

Why do racists always look like agressive chavs?

[InOne]

It's about how different classes portray the flag.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by InOne

It's about how different classes portray the flag.

Are you inferring that the higher up the social classes, that they fly flags only out of patriotism and that very few may indeed be many as equally guilty of being as racist/xenophic as those lower classes, who shout about it.


I don't believe that xenophobia is limited to social class - at all.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Are you inferring that the higher up the social classes, that they fly flags only out of patriotism and that very few may indeed be many as equally guilty of being as racist/xenophic as those lower classes, who shout about it.


I don't believe that xenophobia is limited to social class - at all.

There are racists in all walks of life. But I think people who don't live in multicultural areas probably more likely to be less racist, as they have not experienced it, and still live in a genereally British populated part of Britain.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by InOne

It seems to be a problem with the working class and inner city areas. I bet the people who live in the coutryside and the middle and upper classes don't give it a thought at all. Then again they probably don't read The Daily Mail...

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Racism and bigotry isn't exclusive to the working class and inner city areas. If you believe it is, then you aren't as smart as I usually give you credit for.

Originally Posted by InOne

Where did I mention racism and bigotry

That's not what I was on about

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh forgive me, I excluded the word Xenophobia....

Unless of course, none of that was what you were 'on about'.....

Originally Posted by InOne

Nope, you clearly didn't get what I meant

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

There's your quote above.

Now if it wasn't regarding racism and xenophobia (which is what the thread is about, and the ignorant people who show it), then what are you on about.

Originally Posted by InOne

It's about how different classes portray the flag.

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Are you inferring that the higher up the social classes, that they fly flags only out of patriotism and that very few may indeed be many as equally guilty of being as racist/xenophic as those lower classes, who shout about it.


I don't believe that xenophobia is limited to social class - at all.

Originally Posted by InOne

There are racists in all walks of life. But I think people who don't live in multicultural areas probably more likely to be less racist, as they have not experienced it, and still live in a genereally British populated part of Britain.

You pulled me up earlier for mentioning racism in relation to your original comment in blue above, telling me that was not what you were on about.

Are you now are saying it is what you were on about - given your comment above?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You pulled me up earlier for mentioning racism in relation to your original comment in blue above, telling me that was not what you were on about.

Are you now are saying it is what you were on about - given your comment above?

You mentioned racism in your reply, that is why I mentioned it, we'd moved on from that little bit, you should keep up.

Now do you actually have a point or are you just going to keep try catching me out with wording? Because that does get rather boring indeed.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by InOne

There are racists in all walks of life. But I think people who don't live in multicultural areas probably more likely to be less racist, as they have not experienced it, and still live in a genereally British populated part of Britain.

That's not my experience. I come from a very ethnically mixed part of east London. While there were tensions at times, on the whole people were more accepting of each other and likely to have friends and colleagues from a variety of nationalities. Now I live in the countryside where it's almost exclusively white, and I have never heard such xenophobic bull**** in my life. Some of the outrageously racist comments I've heard people make with absolutely no shame at all have taken my breath away at times. I think those who don't mix with people of other ethnic backgrounds and have no experience of them see them as different, whereas people who mix with them all the time realise that we all bleed red.

[MTVN]

Oh God, Pyramid going crazy with the quotes again

[Marc]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh God, Pyramid going crazy with the quotes again

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh God, Pyramid going crazy with the quotes again

Originally Posted by Marc

Love the way mods come into a serious debates thread - to make light of it. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a serious debate section of the forum, does it not.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Love the way mods come into a serious debates thread - to make light of it. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a serious debate section of the forum, does it not.

Nope

[InOne]

Yeah I'm dizzy lol

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh God, Pyramid going crazy with the quotes again

I wouldn't need to if people actually stuck to what they said they meant.

Originally Posted by InOne

Yeah I'm dizzy lol

Maybe stop twisting yourself in circles then.

[spitfire]

No, The Union Flag is not becoming a symbol for racism/xenophobia.
What Flag would you expect The British National Party to use?
The Tories use it too.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by spitfire

No, The Union Flag is not becoming a symbol for racism/xenophobia.
What Flag would you expect The British National Party to use?
The Tories use it too.

Nope, it's a tree

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Nope, it's a tree

http://www.conservatives.com/

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by spitfire

http://www.conservatives.com/

Never see that used in public though, heck even their Facebook uses the blue and green one.

[Liberty4eva]

I wish people wouldn't make big fusses about a piece of cloth. We have a society today where if someone owned a swastika it would be like a big deal but I wish people would just mellow out. BTW, I don't own a swastika in case anyone thinks I do.

[GypsyGoth]

I think of it as a symbol of multiculturalism before I associate it with the likes of the bnp & racists. However I think those tiny groups are very loud in the media.