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Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah because the two situations are so comparable

It is when you consider the loved ones of the child. Suicide is suicide whatever way you want to look at it. The easy way out.

GypsyGoth · 22-02-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

It is when you consider the loved ones of the child. Suicide is suicide whatever way you want to look at it. The easy way out.

How can suicide be the easy way out if it leaves loads of relatives devastated?

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

How can suicide be the easy way out if it leaves loads of relatives devastated?

Which is the point I'm trying to make.

If you loved your relatives and your friends why on earth would you want to do that to them. To cause them that much pain. OK the bloke lost his son. Fair enough. I don't know what that feels like but I only have to look at my Nan to glimpse what its like to lose a child. Especially at the age of eleven. To put your child to bed for them not to wake up again is devastating.

My Nan said she wanted to die to be with her son again, but the the thought of putting the entire family through that pain and suffering squashed that idea.

Niamh. · 22-02-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

It is when you consider the loved ones of the child. Suicide is suicide whatever way you want to look at it. The easy way out.

So this man is the same as a child killer now. Give me a ****ing break Glenn

Kazanne · 22-02-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Think of this situation.

A child killer gets life in prison for murdering a 6yr old. He kills himself. What would your view be on that?

They dont get life!!!!and they rarely kill themselves IF they do I say it's great they at least had a conscience about what they did,IF that is the reason they did it,and nice that they saved us loads of money and imo suicide is NOT a cowards way out it is usually desperation.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne

They dont get life!!!!and they rarely kill themselves IF they do I say it's great they at least had a conscience about what they did,IF that is the reason they did it,and nice that they saved us loads of money and imo suicide is NOT a cowards way out it is usually desperation.

And you think the family of the murdered child would think like that?

Kazanne · 22-02-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

And you think the family of the murdered child would think like that?

I really dont think I am the right person to question on that,lets just say this guy wasn't a child murderer,he loved his son and I as a mum can see why he was so distraught.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne

I really dont think I am the right person to question on that,lets just say this guy wasn't a child murderer,he loved his son and I as a mum can see why he was so distraught.

Hypothetically if your child was murdered and the murderer killed himself, then how would you feel?

lostalex · 22-02-2012, 01:57 PM

Compare this to Muslim fathers who would KILL their own son for being gay. (this is a reality)

Now THAT would be selfish, killing your own son because you're EMBARASSED of your own son in the arab world. This is a very common happening in the Muslim world.

Stark contrast isn't it?

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

Compare this to Muslim fathers who would KILL their own son for being gay. (this is a reality)

Now THAT would be selfish, killing your own son because you're EMBARASSED of your own son in the arab world. This is a very common happening in the Muslim world.

Stark contrast isn't it?

That's just outright murder. Slightly off topic their lostalex.

Kizzy · 22-02-2012, 02:12 PM

Well, all these hypotheticals and we will never have one clue as to his state of mind.

Kizzy · 22-02-2012, 02:34 PM

You could then say 'why does insanity exist' ...non compus mentus...out of your mind . I can fully comprehend why such an experience could trigger a reaction like that. And not feel i had to attatch any rational argument to it.

Niall · 22-02-2012, 02:36 PM

Poor guy. Thats terrible. I feel so sorry for his family too.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 02:41 PM

So I am right then

Niamh. · 22-02-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

So I am right then

No Glenn you're very ****ing wrong.

GypsyGoth · 22-02-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

So I am right then

No Glenn, your point is soo ridiculous that it's making her angry, being right is something different.

Smithy · 22-02-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

No Glenn, your point is soo ridiculous that it's making her angry, being right is something different.

Kizzy · 22-02-2012, 02:44 PM

Well if that is your opinion tou are welcome to it. To post silly rolling eyes to goad a reaction from those who do not share your view and are becoming upset is not acceptable.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall

Don't be so ridiculous. This man obviously took his own life because he couldn't cope with the overwhelming sadness he was feeling. Thats completely different to the suicide of a child killer.

And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.

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Originally Posted by kizzy

Well if that is your opinion tou are welcome to it. To post silly rolling eyes to goad a reaction from those who do not share your view and are becoming upset is not acceptable.

Yeah.

Niall · 22-02-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.

He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

Roy Mars III · 22-02-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall

He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

100% this

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall

He was depressed Glenn. Its a mental illness. He was unwell. To criticise someone who was in a such a delicate state and had gone through such a rough time in their life is just uncalled for.

He most likely didn't think of his wife because, as I stated before, he couldn't cope with his day to day existence, and therefore sought a way out.

There's help out there for people who go through this.

It must just be me, but if I lost a child I would want to try and get through the situation with the people I love, more so my wife who would be going through the same thing as me. To just end it all wouldn't be an option remotely.

Jake. · 22-02-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

There's help out there for people who go through this.

It must just be me, but if I lost a child I would want to try and get through the situation with the people I love, more so my wife who would be going through the same thing as me. To just end it all wouldn't be an option remotely.

So he is in the wrong because you would be able to cope with it better? My god.

Niamh. · 22-02-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

And without a second thought for his poor wife in the process.

Yeah.

You really think a person who loved his son so much he couldn't bear to be on this planet without him, could be that heartless to not even give "a second thought for his poor wife in the process" I'm really surprised at you Glenn.

CharlieO · 22-02-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

You really think a person who loved his son so much he couldn't bear to be on this planet without him, could be that heartless to not even give "a second thought for his poor wife in the process" I'm really surprised at you Glenn.

He could have a bad relationship with his wife you don't know?

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