[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by King_Anton

De Gea will become an elite Keeper. He is finally getting into his stride here.

I agree but im fed up of my Mom and most peoole I talk to going on about how awful he is,I remember Joe Hart when he first started out at Man City and he was alot worse than De Gea was at this stage.

[Brother Leon]

Van Der Sar was on the Ajax bench at his age. Peter K was in the lower Danish leagues. It was never going to be an easy first season for him but he's saved our bacon these last few matches.

[Incensed]

I wish the parents of Carlos Tevez had never met!!

[bbfan1991]

I feel sorry for Stefan Savic, like David De Gea he is a young lad from another country who have to get used to the culture and the way football is played in England and everyone wants instant success all of a sudden because there is no patience.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

King Kenny is an average Manager.

That's generous

[Novo]

People who don't like Football are either one of the following

- Gay
- Mental
- Blind

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That's generous

OK he did well in managing Blackburn to win the Premier League with Shearer in the side, although apart from that what has he done in his spells at Liverpool?

I heard he was a good player for them and for us SAF was not even at a world class standard player for Rangers, but look at how his management career has progressed.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

OK he did well in managing Blackburn to win the Premier League with Shearer in the side, although apart from that what has he done in his spells at Liverpool?

I heard he was a good player for them and for us SAF was not even at a world class standard player for Rangers, but look at how his management career has progressed.

No I meant calling him average was generous, I think he's been hopeless at Liverpool tbh

[Samuel.]

Kenny was a great manager in the 80's for us, winning three league titles and two FA Cups (when it meant something) in 5 years, and one of our best players ever, not just "good"

[MTVN]

I don't think playing long ball football is necessarily a bad idea

Big Sam is a great manager, worked wonders with Bolton, was unfairly sacked from Newcastle and Blackburn, and now West Ham fans are getting pissed off despite us being second in a very hard division to get out of, with a game in hand over Southampton and having been unbeaten in out last 8

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Kenny was a great manager in the 80's for us, winning three league titles and two FA Cups (when it meant something) in 5 years, and one of our best players ever, not just "good"

My judgement is mainly just based on his current spell tbf, I don't know a huge lot about his past career

[bbfan1991]

I liked Big Sam's philosophy at Bolton, the likes of Jay Jay Okocha were tearing it up for them.

[bbfan1991]

I do not see nothing wrong with the defensive side of football and I enjoy it, this gets criticised but teams are trying to be hard to break down so they can counter on the attack.

Of course the attacking side gets a lot of praise, but I feel the defensive side does not get as much..

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

My judgement is mainly just based on his current spell tbf, I don't know a huge lot about his past career

That's fair, it was more directed at bbfan for implying Kenny hadn't done anything in either of his spells at Liverpool. Which is nonsense.

Regardless of how he does with Liverpool now, that won't change the fact he was once the best manager in the league.

[King Gizzard]

he's working with quite a few poor players. Don't think he is to blame for much of the signings, Commoli deals with that and everyone knows he's a tosser

[King Gizzard]

Stoke should be relegated for how they play

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

OK he did well in managing Blackburn to win the Premier League with Shearer in the side, although apart from that what has he done in his spells at Liverpool?

I heard he was a good player for them and for us SAF was not even at a world class standard player for Rangers, but look at how his management career has progressed.

He signed Shearer for them when he was a promising youngster. He had a strike rate of about 1 in 4 at Southampton, so it's not quite fair to say he had Shearer. He signed and helped develop him.

I think he should probably move upstairs at the end of the season, not because he hasn't improved our football, because he has, but because of his purchasing of pace-leass, average British players, when we were lacking pace and creativity.

Fergie took 7 years to win the league but finished 2nd in his second season, so maybe you need to be a little more forgiving of the failures of others?

Originally Posted by Nathan

he's working with quite a few poor players. Don't think he is to blame for much of the signings, Commoli deals with that and everyone knows he's a tosser

No one could do that to Kenny at Liverpool. Kenny is responsible for those signings, not Comolli. They have both said that Comolli cannot sign players without the managers agreement.

Originally Posted by Samuel.

That's fair, it was more directed at bbfan for implying Kenny hadn't done anything in either of his spells at Liverpool. Which is nonsense.

Regardless of how he does with Liverpool now, that won't change the fact he was once the best manager in the league.

And the best player on these islands.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

And the best player on these islands.

Disagree with that he's possibly in the top 10 though

Bobby Moore >

Originally Posted by Novo

Disagree with that he's possibly in the top 10 though

Bobby Moore though >

They played in Different eras, and in different positions. When Kenny was here, he was the best player in the league. Kenny stood head and shoulders above everybody else, in a team that was not only dominating the league, but also Europe.

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

He signed Shearer for them when he was a promising youngster. He had a strike rate of about 1 in 4 at Southampton, so it's not quite fair to say he had Shearer. He signed and helped develop him.

I think he should probably move upstairs at the end of the season, not because he hasn't improved our football, because he has, but because of his purchasing of pace-leass, average British players, when we were lacking pace and creativity.

Fergie took 7 years to win the league but finished 2nd in his second season, so maybe you need to be a little more forgiving of the failures of others?

Yeah, it did take Fergie a while but obviously it would have building a club from scratch after the Munich disaster when the likes of Busby died.

Kenny has been rather hit and miss but fair play to him on winning you the Carling Cup this season, some LFC fans were saying it was going to attract world class players but we all know that is not true.

I would be saying the same if it was the only chance of United winning a cup this season, which we might still end up trophyless!

[Novo]

I am not saying Kenny wasn't the best in his Era he probably was by a distance but Bobby Moore is regarded as the best center back ever by a lot of people and when Pele says your the greatest player he's ever come up against and Fergie says your the best defender ever then you know your amazing

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

Yeah, it did take Fergie a while but obviously it would have building a club from scratch after the Munich disaster when the likes of Busby died.

Kenny has been rather hit and miss but fair play to him on winning you the Carling Cup this season, some LFC fans were saying it was going to attract world class players but we all know that is not true.

I would be saying the same if it was the only chance of United winning a cup this season, which we might still end up trophyless!

Are you joking? Fergie had nothing to do with rebuilding the club after Munich. Fergie joined the club in 85. Munich was 58. Busby rebuilt the club himself.

Oh dear - people wonder why man u fans get a bad rap.

[bbfan1991]

I think some of Liverpool's problems stemmed from the sell of Xabi Alonso because wasn't Rafa convinced that the player had agreed to join Real Madrid in the Summer mid season and there was the Barry business, adding to that the buying of players that turned out to be average for them.

Every club has their fair share of bargains or flops!