[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I would hate seeing my baby get injections never mind their ears pierced. it's hard enough to see a baby cry in pain because of something that will make them better, but to see them cry in pain because of jewellery is awful

...good point

[GypsyGoth]

I think it'll be illegal one day.

[Jordan.]

Pain aside it's still unnecessary

[InOne]

It's wrong. The kid should be old enough to make a choice.

[ILoveTRW]

is the circumcision of kids wrong then?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

is the circumcision of kids wrong then?

Only primitive religions do that.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Only primitive religions do that.

you need to get some international stamps in pissport

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

you need to get some international stamps in pissport

I don't know what that means, but thanks I guess.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Only primitive religions do that.

Not really, most American babies are circumcised, not even to do with religious reasons, just because they think it looks better and is cleaner. Personally I don't agree with babies being circumcised unless it's for medical reasons.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Only primitive religions do that.

My religion does that. I do not regard myself as "primitive". Around 80% of the male population of the USA is circumcised - not all for reglious purposes, and not all because they're "primitive".

I've noticed that a lot of discussions seem to get turned around to circumcision. I don't know any man who is circumcised and has a problem with it, and some women prefer a man who is circumcised. I'd say there are far more worthy bandwagons to jump on... female circumcision, for instance.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

My religion does that. I do not regard myself as "primitive". Around 80% of the male population of the USA is circumcised - not all for reglious purposes, and not all because they're "primitive".

I've noticed that a lot of discussions seem to get turned around to circumcision. I don't know any man who is circumcised and has a problem with it, and some women prefer a man who is circumcised. I'd say there are far more worthy bandwagons to jump on... female circumcision, for instance.

jump livia,
im jokeing,you know i luv you

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Livia

My religion does that. I do not regard myself as "primitive". Around 80% of the male population of the USA is circumcised - not all for reglious purposes, and not all because they're "primitive".

I've noticed that a lot of discussions seem to get turned around to circumcision. I don't know any man who is circumcised and has a problem with it, and some women prefer a man who is circumcised. I'd say there are far more worthy bandwagons to jump on... female circumcision, for instance.

Nope, and the number is dropping quickly.

Circumcision came to America thanks to a Christian nutcase, who went around propagandizing that by circumcising little boys, they'd keep their hands off their private parts.

Circumcision should be banned, and yes, it's primitive to do this to children.

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

is the circumcision of kids wrong then?

Yes

[SharkAttack]

We let our 9 year old make the call and only when she inquired about it. She took care of her ears for about two months and then grew annoyed with it all so let them heal up. She can decide when she's older if she wants to try again, but the key here is to let them decide for themselves if they want to add those kinds of jewelry that require a small amount of mutilation.

[ThisIsAnAccount]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

I was at my local shops yesterday and a woman in front of me in the queue started chatting to me, as you do. Her baby, aged about 18 months, was in her pram and this woman told me that she'd just had her ears pierced (the child) as "a treat". I just smiled and said she looked cute but to be honest I was horrified. "A treat!" The little girl was just a baby. I don't agree with this, but would never have said anything as it's not my place. I feel however that parents shouldn't be able to get their children pierced anywhere until the child is of a reasonable age to make that decision themselves. Obviously children grow up quickly these days so I'm not advocating anything like 16 or 18, but maybe 10 or 12? And there's the question of whether the salon or wherever they have it done should have a moral and ethical duty to set an age limit on such treatments. I believe they should, I don't know whether or not there's an actual law for this, but if not then there should be.

Thoughts?

what's the harm? if the child grows up and decides doesn't want earings or piercings anymore then they just take them out and if they want to cover up the holes they'll probably be a way to do that too....

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by ThisIsAnAccount

what's the harm? if the child grows up and decides doesn't want earings or piercings anymore then they just take them out and if they want to cover up the holes they'll probably be a way to do that too....

no. let them make the decision themselves in the first place. As was pointed out above, a child is not an accessory and I can't understand the logic behind getting very young children pierced, it's painful and totally unnecessary, what possible benefit can be gained from it? None at all.

With regards to circumcision, I think that's an awful practice, very primitive and totally unnecessary.

[Locke.]

Fine with girls, not with boys

[Ammi]

...I think what I dislike more..is very young boys who have...'stuff' shaved into their hair...Nike ticks and things

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I think what I dislike more..is very young boys who have...'stuff' shaved into their hair...Nike ticks and things

When my nephew was about six he wouldn't stop asking to have a spiderman web shaved into his hair because he saw another kid with one, and obviously loved spiderman, he loved it but it grew out really fast and he wasn't bothered after that.

I don't really have a problem with kids getting their ears pierced, they most likely wont remember it and lots of girls will get them done eventually anyway, as long as the parents look after the child's ears properly and don't put big earrings on them, I think it's fine.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I don't really have a problem with kids getting their ears pierced, they most likely wont remember it and lots of girls will get them done eventually anyway, as long as the parents look after the child's ears properly and don't put big earrings on them, I think it's fine.

I'm with Jess on this. I don't see any real problem with it.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Fine with girls, not with boys

[King Gizzard]

..chavs

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Nathan

..chavs

..I guess so.....it doesn't look right anyway

[King Gizzard]

I had my ear done during high school but I left it a while and couldn't get it back in it was biggish hole too had quite a black plastic earing thing in it (not those massive things you see)

[Marc]

18months is pretty early to be honest