[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, I think the difference is the interpretation of the word "written". Julian Clary actually writes his own books, whereas Katie Price has a ghost writer who can actually... you know... write.

I remember Naomi Campbell "writing a book", and when her agent was asked whether she's actually written it herself the answer was "while she didn't write it herself, she is very much the author". What...?

Julan's autobiography is brilliant. You should give it a go... I highly recommend it.

No thanks. I shall though take up the advice from another poster to read martins autobiography, a far nicer, more talented, more modest all rounded character.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't think Julian dislikes him. I think he finds him stupid and slow, and so do I. I think Julian's feelings are closer to pity than dislike. And for anyone who thinks Julian's career died in the 80s probably don't realise that he's written three or four successful books. You don't have to be a brainless set of abs to be successful, you know.

I think julian is ignorant , nasty and premeditates what he wil think and say. hes totally predictable and narrow minded hypocrite. as for him being so intelligent and superior, what has he actually achieved? the list of his work in the past decade includes such luminary tv mocies as brazen hussies and camp Christmas? then he raised the bar for dick whittington
his only ever movie was his chance to emulate his carry on heroes, it was awful and rated 2.5 out of 10 on internet movie database....who the hell is he with such a low quality career , to judge anyone else? in fact far more successful people than him, like martin kemp, who has been through hell and back, show far greater modesty , humility , kindness and open mindedness, than the nasty shallow predictable anti american, julian

[flamingGalah!]

So because Julian think that the thick, untalented Situation is erm, thick & untalented, that makes him anti American??

[the truth]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

So because Julian think that the thick, untalented Situation is erm, thick & untalented, that makes him anti American??

hes always been anti american, on panel shows, quiz shows, always has a dig calling them stupid etc he insulted mike within 30 seconds of meeting him. he constantly insults both americans who have literally done nothing at all to warrant it. he is just another shallow predictable awful british so called entertainer , who plays to the audience think all brits want to see is yank bashing. it is pitiful, the man is a narrow minded verbal bully and a nasty piece of work. the latest comment I dont like his body , his stomach is like a bag of spanners etc ean spirited nasty , he thinks hes likeable and jovial, hes not , hes shallow mean judgeental narrow minded cold and nasty

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by the truth

hes always been anti american, on panel shows, quiz shows, always has a dig calling them stupid etc he insulted mike within 30 seconds of meeting him. he constantly insults both americans who have literally done nothing at all to warrant it. he is just another shallow predictable awful british so called entertainer , who plays to the audience think all brits want to see is yank bashing. it is pitiful, the man is a narrow minded verbal bully and a nasty piece of work. the latest comment I dont like his body , his stomach is like a bag of spanners etc ean spirited nasty , he thinks hes likeable and jovial, hes not , hes shallow mean judgeental narrow minded cold and nasty

He is not anti American FFS

Mike IS thick as sh*t, Julian takes the pi** out of anyone, not just American's, it's just that some American's ARE an easy target...

I take it you are American?

[Saigon1]

So because no one you know had heard of him that constitutes " pretty much everyone over the Age of 20"

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Saigon1

So because no one you know had heard of him that constitutes " pretty much everyone over the Age of 20"

And because you & everyone you know HAD heard of him, that constitutes everyone over the age of 25 DOES know who he is?? Ok then...

[Saigon1]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

And because you & everyone you know HAD heard of him, that constitutes everyone over the age of 25 DOES know who he is?? Ok then...

Did I say that it did? No. Unlike you who did say that pretty much anyone over 20 hasn't heard of him.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Saigon1

Did I say that it did? No. Unlike you who did say that pretty much anyone over 20 hasn't heard of him.

You sort of did actually... But it is true that it is only Jersey Shore's core audience (which is under 20's, generally speaking) have heard of him, in the UK at least... He certainly isn't "well known" in the UK...

[Brother Leon]

Tbh. I knew Situation And didnt know Julian before CBB. Comes down to a person's interest and age I guess.

[the truth]

mike is a top bloke, hes clever enough to roll with the punches and smile his way through it....what difference does it make to him if we think hes clever enough to have worked out hos shallow, vile and judgemental julian is....mike smiles and rises above the situation....hes not stupid whatsoever, in fact hes smart enough to live in his own fantasy world instead of dwelling on the pettiness of other housemates...ignorance is bliss when youre surrounded by horrible people....i recall terry waite saying when he was imprisoned for years he played imaginary chess in his head with his brother, some sing songs to themselves, some have conversations with themselves....its a coping mechanism to deal with unpleasant situations, and the situation is coping very well

[lostalex]

Everyone seems to have ignored my point about picking on "thick" people.

If Julian is so clever and humorous, why is he picking on the "thick" person, especially when that "thick" person has not done anything nasty or offensive to Julian. So why is he picking on Mike? it's the easy target right?

You'd think someone of Julian's caliber could find a way to be funny without picking off the weakest. That's just lazy and mean to pick on someone that's "thick" right?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

everyone seems to have ignored my point about picking on "thick" people. if Julian is so clever and humorous, why is he picking on the "thick" person, it's the easy target right? you'd think someone of Julian's caliber could find a way to be funny without picking off the weakest.

great point. and can you point out to flaming gallah, Im not pro american or anti american. I take each topic on a case by case basis. i had a pop at the US over their insane gun laws, also their often ridiculous foreign policy. on the other hand, the american friends i have and thepeople ive met have 99% of the time been warm friendly genuine people. in fact far friendlier than people in england. though Ive since moved to wales and I have to say theyre the friendliest people Ive ever met.

i dont like the way th eyanks are always picked out and picked on in these english reality shows, it happened to dirk benedict who was bullied ercilessly about his cancer , his impotence through cancer and his alcoholism, it happened to mike madsen when denise welsh attacked constantly last year, she slapped him a few ties, wasnt warned and the brits voted her the winner, disgusting person....vanilla ice had the same treatment on the farm, the list is long. so yank has ever won a mainstream reality tv show in the UK (possibly 1 celebrity masterchef but that was only because it wasnt a popularity contest it was a skills contest) all uk comedies mock the americans as thick stupid idiotic brainless warmongers....I especially dislike it when the generalization is used to bully ostracize individuals who dont deserve it, now its mike and the princes turn....did you hear julie goodyears reasons for voting the prince? what a joke. she may as well have just said, because hes american and he cant help whats left of my career

all some of these z list brits vote for is to stay in with z list british celebrities in order to further their careers, they really are that shallow. hopefully martin kemp can continue to rise above it and vote on merit not nationality

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

great point. and can you point out to flaming gallah, Im not pro american or anti american. I take each topic on a case by case basis. i had a pop at the US over their insane gun laws, also their often ridiculous foreign policy. on the other hand, the american friends i have and thepeople ive met have 99% of the time been warm friendly genuine people. in fact far friendlier than people in england. though Ive since moved to wales and I have to say theyre the friendliest people Ive ever met.

i dont like the way th eyanks are always picked out and picked on in these english reality shows, it happened to dirk benedict who was bullied ercilessly about his cancer , his impotence through cancer and his alcoholism, it happened to mike madsen when denise welsh attacked constantly last year, she slapped him a few ties, wasnt warned and the brits voted her the winner, disgusting person....vanilla ice had the same treatment on the farm, the list is long. so yank has ever won a mainstream reality tv show in the UK (possibly 1 celebrity masterchef but that was only because it wasnt a popularity contest it was a skills contest) all uk comedies mock the americans as thick stupid idiotic brainless warmongers....I especially dislike it when the generalization is used to bully ostracize individuals who dont deserve it, now its mike and the princes turn....did you hear julie goodyears reasons for voting the prince? what a joke. she may as well have just said, because hes american and he cant help whats left of my career

all some of these z list brits vote for is to stay in with z list british celebrities in order to further their careers, they really are that shallow. hopefully martin kemp can continue to rise above it and vote on merit not nationality

Well i think you've taken what i've said and ran very far away with it to a very far away place lol.

I was just talking about Julian's HUMOR which is what this thread is about. I think if Julian is such a great comedian, he'd be able to find funny and clever things to say about other people, instead of just picking on an easy target like Mike.

That was my only point.

[flamingGalah!]

The Truth seems to have some weird underlying issues & has gone waaaaaay off topic

[rayheartbliss]

this thread has completely gone off topic

its not even about oh julian is the evil one and mike is the good.

[realitytvsux]

Originally Posted by rayheartbliss

this thread has completely gone off topic

its not even about oh julian is the evil one and mike is the good.

You're right. To go back to the original point, I don't think mike is fully aware of Julian's disdain for a few reasons: Mike is genuinely a bit slow and Julian's remarks go over his head, Mike is also pretty full of himself and not really in tune with other people; a lot of what Julian says about Mike is actually behind his back - I quite like Julian but he is pretty sneaky.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by realitytvsux

You're right. To go back to the original point, I don't think mike is fully aware of Julian's disdain for a few reasons: Mike is genuinely a bit slow and Julian's remarks go over his head, Mike is also pretty full of himself and not really in tune with other people; a lot of what Julian says about Mike is actually behind his back - I quite like Julian but he is pretty sneaky.

He has made an effing fortune though! must stick in the craw of intelligent funny people like julian that loads of people would rather watch this bland talentless american...

[rayheartbliss]

this thread has completely gone off topic

its not even about oh julian is the evil one and mike is the good.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rayheartbliss

this thread has completely gone off topic

its not even about oh julian is the evil one and mike is the good.

these issues are connected, you may not think so, I disagree.

[Black Dagger]

Julian has written several successful books and is going to be touring practically as soon as he steps foot out of the house... he really isn't a bitter has-been.

And for the record, I don't really think Julian dislikes him, just finds him a little slow with his humour.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Julian has written several successful books and is going to be touring practically as soon as he steps foot out of the house... he really isn't a bitter has-been.

And for the record, I don't really think Julian dislikes him, just finds him a little slow with his humour.

Julian isnt funny, hes nasty. Ive noticed too julian doesnt get mikes humour either, hes kind of slow too. at leats mike has given him a chance, julian hasnt at all. as for him insulting mikes body, thats just pathetic. julians career is the same old tat. tacky mean spirited so called humour and double entendres. if you think thats quality good luck to you. I think its utter trash.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by the truth

Julian isnt funny, hes nasty. Ive noticed too julian doesnt get mikes humour either, hes kind of slow too. at leats mike has given him a chance, julian hasnt at all. as for him insulting mikes body, thats just pathetic. julians career is the same old tat. tacky mean spirited so called humour and double entendres. if you think thats quality good luck to you. I think its utter trash.

We get it you dislike Julian & find him unfunny...

I & others find him hilarious, guess you just have a different sense of humour

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

We get it you dislike Julian & find him unfunny...

I & others find him hilarious, guess you just have a different sense of humour

I do too, always have It's so nice to see he has a new fanny the wonderdog in julie, growly scruffy and incontinent...Aw, so reminiscent of poor old fanny..

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by the truth

Julian isnt funny, hes nasty. Ive noticed too julian doesnt get mikes humour either, hes kind of slow too. at leats mike has given him a chance, julian hasnt at all. as for him insulting mikes body, thats just pathetic. julians career is the same old tat. tacky mean spirited so called humour and double entendres. if you think thats quality good luck to you. I think its utter trash.

You don't need to insult me for finding Julian Clary funny.