[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I feel sure you will get your wish,he will be a one term PM for sure for me Mockinator.
I find that sad in a way too because I do believe he has genuinely fought to present a better image of the Conservative party after their 13 years in opposition and I also think he is by far the best of the 3 main party leaders.

Sadly for me however some of his policies have left me really disappointed due to the lack of compassion.
He is however a decent guy in my view and I hoped to see more penetrating questions from Letterman during his time on the show to him actually.
I still think from what I saw that he came across rather well from the show though.

He didn't win the last election outright, so in my view anyway, he hasn't an earthly chance of any overall majority in the next one for certain.

lets face it, labour were a total disaster, the last 10 years.
its hard to judge the tories yet. but osbourne doesnt look up to the job, the man clearly lacks character. cameron comes across better. hes smooth and inoffensive. but again he clearly lacks depth of character. we brits need to start voting on character and not just exam results. character tells you how much empathy, honesty, decency, compassion a person has, as well as ambition, vision, communication skills etc

we brits over intellectualize the wrong things. we need to discuss what kind of nation we need, also we have to prioritize what is most important

we havent had an honest conversation for years. labour made so many stupid laws, a mere conversation with opinions has become alm0st impossible , as its a legal and moral minefield in terms of what you are allowed to actually say. people are too scared now to even discuss subjects.

the tories had to win or the country would have gone bankrupt. i want to see cameron hammer the useless corrupt wasteful councils first. theyd be top of my list. he also needs to expose the failing burocrats in each department, to scale back to infinite stealth taxes hurting the working man. these petty often corrupt burocrats are ruining our country

they need to rebalance the economy the way obama is doing, but it wont happen with osbourne, he hasnt got the depth of character to even want to rebuild the economy. but it must happen, all our eggs in the financial services is another disaster waiting to happen

please note UK debts are the 2nd highest in the world
in total we owe $8.9 trillion

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

David Cameron just makes me angry everytime I see his face, a useless Prime Minister that im looking forward to see losing the next election.

He will lose Mocky,then we can all look forward to drowning in debt.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kazanne

He will lose Mocky,then we can all look forward to a drowning in debt.

he cant lose to milliband , harriot harman and co. the country would die on its ass...but dave should do more to stimulate growth , he also needs to get rid of over a million useless civil servant burocrats

[Kazanne]

I think people will vote for Labour as they will give them what they want(or so they think)while they enjoy all the hand outs ,behind the scenes the country will be plunged into debt again,only for them to escape the blame as the Tories will be voted in again to mop up the mess and deal with the hate and so it goes round,You have to be cruel to be kind and it's about time people stopped wanting something for nowt.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I think people will vote for Labour as they will give them what they want(or so they think)while they enjoy all the hand outs ,behind the scenes the country will be plunged into debt again,only for them to escape the blame as the Tories will be voted in again to mop up the mess and deal with the hate and so it goes round,You have to be cruel to be kind and it's about time people stopped wanting something for nowt.

the working class have been systematically failed by each government. industries deliberately destroyed by thatcher. try and investigate for example what she did to duport steel works? the plot runs deep and dark. so she destroyed millions of jobs for centuries. that is plain evil.

all these governments are doing is dealing with the wreckage left behind in many ways. as the economy has no balance. the mega mega rich have made even more money, the workless lazy chavs have remained lazy weed smoking unemployables, the tens of millions in between are forced to pay for it all by working harder and longer. its beyond disgusting and not one politician has even begund to addressed the systematic corruption that produces this disgusting state of affairs

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I think people will vote for Labour as they will give them what they want(or so they think)while they enjoy all the hand outs ,behind the scenes the country will be plunged into debt again,only for them to escape the blame as the Tories will be voted in again to mop up the mess and deal with the hate and so it goes round,You have to be cruel to be kind and it's about time people stopped wanting something for nowt.

I feel you are right kazanne, people will be voting Labour more at the next election, I also think in spite of anything they say or say they will do.
The votes though will not as such be for the Labour Party but they will be votes against this Conservative Lib Dem Coalition.

I think the Coalition had a good chance and a the perfect time to call for all in the Country to make some sacrifice,for me they failed by getting bogged down with all these costly,confusing and across the board reforms to the NHS and the welfare and benefits system.
They should have concentrated on the reduction of the deficit,they would have had a better chance of holding support by doing that and avoiding confusing reforms that have had to be changed, moderated and looked at over and over and according to the main organisations are still unfair, lack compassion and basically wrong.

For me, Labour just needs to sit there and wait,I just cannot see where anyone who didn't vote Conservative last time would do so next time because of these,what are seen as, heartless policies especially to the weakest and most vulnerable in society.
Labour can just have the open door for all who wnat to see this Coalition gone,the Lib Dems in particular.
I find that sad,although I haven't a single scrap of trust or respect for the Lib Dems now, since I had high hopes for this Coalition and hoped for good compromises as to policies and more compassion too with more emphasis on concensus.

These are the issues I hoped Letterman would have raised with David Cameron on his show.

'The Truth', really good reading and interesting,I agree with just about all of what you detail there.
I don't accept we were are or near bankrupt though, near bankrupt Nations cannot give or would be allowed to give such aid as we do to other Countries,or could have got so involved in the Libyan crisis too.
Also with our workforce, there are always the means to raise taxation to clear any real near bankrupt situations if any ever existed.
Governments hate to do that but sometimes it could be necessary,being near bankrupt is such a situation for that to occur.
I expect to hear from all parties at the next election that they have no plans to increase income tax,(despite the deficit likely only being at best halved by then), that usually is the code for they are very likely to do so.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I feel you are right kazanne, people will be voting Labour more at the next election, I also think in spite of anything they say or say they will do.
The votes though will not as such be for the Labour Party but they will be votes against this Conservative Lib Dem Coalition.

I think the Coalition had a good chance and a the perfect time to call for all in the Country to make some sacrifice,for me they failed by getting bogged down with all these costly,confusing and across the board reforms to the NHS and the welfare and benefits system.
They should have concentrated on the reduction of the deficit,they would have had a better chance of holding support by doing that and avoiding confusing reforms that have had to be changed, moderated and looked at over and over and according to the main organisations are still unfair, lack compassion and basically wrong.

For me, Labour just needs to sit there and wait,I just cannot see where anyone who didn't vote Conservative last time would do so next time because of these,what are seen as, heartless policies especially to the weakest and most vulnerable in society.
Labour can just have the open door for all who wnat to see this Coalition gone,the Lib Dems in particular.
I find that sad,although I haven't a sinle scrap of trust or respect for the Lib Dems now, since I had high hopes for this Coalition and hoped for good compromises as to policies and more compassion too with more emphasis on concensus.

These are the issues I hoped Letterman would have raised with David Cameron on his show.

'The Truth', really good reading and interesting,I agree with just about all of what you detail there.
I don't accept we were are or near bankrupt though, near bankrupt Nations cannot give or would be allowed to give such aid as we do to other Countries,or could have got so involved in the Libyan crisis too.
Also with our workforce, there are always the means to raise taxation to clear any real near bankrupt situations if any ever existed.
Governments hate to do that but sometimes it could be necessary,being near bankrupt is such a situation for that to occur.
I expect to hear from all parties at the next election that they have no plans to increase income tax,(despite the deficit likely only being at best halved by then), that usually is the code for they are very likely to do so.

Joey,I really think David Cameron is trying to help the country,yes some of what he does is harsh we have all felt the effects,but surely if we all pull together in the countries hour of need we will reap the benefits eventually,and I agree that the votes Labour will get will simply be a vote AGAINST the Tories,people really should think about the consequenses of revenge!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Joey,I really think David Cameron is trying to help the country,yes some of what he does is harsh we have all felt the effects,but surely if we all pull together in the countries hour of need we will reap the benefits eventually,and I agree that the votes Labour will get will simply be a vote AGAINST the Tories,people really should think about the consequenses of revenge!

I agree, the problem David Cameron has is that he would like I think to be seen as a consensus politician and has tried to present that at the election, everyone who meets him says he is a friendly and approachable guy.

He not only got the hard task of leading a Govt in a fragile economical state, he also had World events and problems arising from the Eurozone to face that could threaten how he proceeded.
He then has the far right of his party pressing for all sorts of harder policies as opposed to his more moderate ideas as to policies.
As well as all that he has to look constantly over his shoulder at what the Lib Dems are doing and saying, knowing they can scupper any plans he brings forward.

Rather then creating a strong Govt, this Coalition has been a weak Govt, with far too many factions pulling this way and then the other.
I think it's a pity he didn't get the chance to, on the Letterman show, get his points across better as to things he has done and had to do.

For Labour, the Coalition is a gift beyond belief, they are in effect the only opposition UK party there has been to the policies put forward.
My guess is they will win with a overall majority of at least 30 whenever the election comes.

David Cameron has had a baptism of fire as to being PM, it is never an easy job nor should it be but I cannot see any way back for him from the problems this Govt has now.
2013 and 2014 are going to be riddled with the effects of polices that are going to hit the most vulnerable far more,the NHS is heading for really big problems.
He will have nothing to give away at the next election as his reduction of the deficit will be nowhere near ,( if it even gets anywhere near half), of what he made his target as to it to be.

Politics is a cruel and lonely place at times.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree, the problem David Cameron has is that he would like I think to be seen as a consensus politician and has tried to present that at the election, everyone who meets him says he is a friendly and approachable guy.

He not only got the hard task of leading a Govt in a fragile economical state, he also had World events and problems arising from the Eurozone to face that could threaten how he proceeded.
He then has the far right of his party pressing for all sorts of harder policies as opposed to his more moderate ideas as to policies.
As well as all that he has to look constantly over his shoulder at what the Lib Dems are doing and saying, knowing they can scupper any plans he brings forward.

Rather then creating a strong Govt, this Coalition has been a weak Govt, with far too many factions pulling this way and then the other.
I think it's a pity he didn't get the chance to, on the Letterman show, get his points across better as to things he has done and had to do.

For Labour, the Coalition is a gift beyond belief, they are in effect the only opposition UK party there has been to the policies put forward.
My guess is they will win with a overall majority of at least 30 whenever the election comes.

David Cameron has had a baptism of fire as to being PM, it is never an easy job nor should it be but I cannot see any way back for him from the problems this Govt has now.
2013 and 2014 are going to be riddled with the effects of polices that are going to hit the most vulnerable far more,the NHS is heading for really big problems.
He will have nothing to give away at the next election as his reduction of the deficit will be nowhere near ,( if it even gets anywhere near half), of what he made his target as to it to be.

Politics is a cruel and lonely place at times.

I disagree. labour are a total joke. not even the stupidest people can see what a disaster they were. the only reason labour didnt get even bigger hammering is that they created around 10 million workless chavs, many of whom worried they would lose their handouts under the tories. but 4 or 5 years later, the benefits system will be totally different and the freeloaders wont have that option anymore, so the culture will have changed a bit. the tories will produce more private jobs and reduce the mindless burocracy of big brother new labour. i thought new labour were as bad as thatchers lot by the end.

[the truth]

the jury is out on the benefit reforms. its scary for everyone and mistalkes will be made. but IF its done well, then maybe just maybe more money will go to those who need and deserve it and less will go to the workless chavs. as far as Im concerned being a drunk or a chain smoking or pot smoker or meow meow muncher is NOT a disability and these people shouldnt be allowed to milk benefits to fund such a pathetically selfish existence, at the expense of poor sick or didabled people

[Harry!]

I did watch the video and I did find it amusing, David Letterman is a fabulous presenter and tried to humour the PM.

[Nedusa]

Not sure Dave would have been too pleased at the History quiz , but after that I think it went pretty well.