[Livia]

The "violent films and video games" argument is a weak one. The vast majority of people can differentiate between fiction and real life. Those that can't are already unhinged and would most probably be violent without watching films and playing video games.

[Liberty4eva]

If you're in favor of gun control, you oughta look up to people like Hitler and Stalin cause they definitely believed in gun control.

Bottom line, the government ultimately wants a population that is disarmed. And it has nothing to do with keeping people safe (as is often the garb) and everything to do with enhancing their power. An armed population is more independent and less inclined to look to government for subsistence and are less likely to offer up any kind of resistance to their authority. ALL OF THE DICTATORS in the past understood this and you think our governments don't understand this? Or perhaps you think our situation is different to other countries and our leaders want our guns because they genuinely care about our safety? If you believe that, I have some beach property to sell you in Montana.

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

If you're in favor of gun control, you oughta look up to people like Hitler and Stalin cause they definitely believed in gun control.

Bottom line, the government ultimately wants a population that is disarmed. And it has nothing to do with keeping people safe (as is often the garb) and everything to do with enhancing their power. An armed population is more independent and less inclined to look to government for subsistence and are less likely to offer up any kind of resistance to their authority. ALL OF THE DICTATORS in the past understood this and you think our governments don't understand this? Or perhaps you think our situation is different to other countries and our leaders want our guns because they genuinely care about our safety? If you believe that, I have some beach property to sell you in Montana.

Please explain how the US is in any danger of dictatorship. Please also explain what the function of the house and the senate is.

Obama could kick your asses if every one had 10 guns each, so being armed may have worked in the 1800's, but it might be time to grow up for you. Both personally and as a nation.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Please explain how the US is in any danger of dictatorship. Please also explain what the function of the house and the senate is.

Obama could kick your asses if every one had 10 guns each, so being armed may have worked in the 1800's, but it might be time to grow up for you. Both personally and as a nation.

The system we have today is not a dictatorship in the traditional sense but it is what Ralph Nader calls the two-party dictatorship. Obama couldn't kick our asses. He gets his power from the people. Without the people's tax dollars he couldn't purchase military equipment or pay the soldiers. He's not going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Why would the government kick our asses and lose all their power when it can exploit our asses?

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

The system we have today is not a dictatorship in the traditional sense but it is what Ralph Nader calls the two-party dictatorship. Obama couldn't kick our asses. He gets his power from the people. Without the people's tax dollars he couldn't purchase military equipment or pay the soldiers. He's not going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Why would the government kick our asses and lose all their power when it can exploit our asses?

That's my point. Why would he kick your asses? Why would any of the (so-called) modern democracies?

Once you accept that government isn't going to kick your asses, then you have to acknowledge that you no longer need arms to protect yourselves from government tyranny.

[arista]

"worked in the 1800's"

America is a Young Nation
hated by many.
So there Guns will Stay forever
unless a Van with a Nuke goes off,
which could then change America

Originally Posted by arista

"worked in the 1800's"

America is a Young Nation
hated by many.
So there Guns will Stay forever
unless a Van with a Nuke goes off,
which could then change America

Someone's been watching his "24" DVD's.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Someone's been watching his "24" DVD's.

No


Its is possible to have a Nuke in the back of a Van
and it can go off,
thats the only thing that could change America

[Jamie585]

Bullsh*t Their just looking for excuses to save their own arse

[Stu]

The NRA are a sad and dangerous anachronism. They perpetuate the worst in the American psyche.

[Niall]

This is ludicrous. How dare he, the president of what's effectively a gun appreciation society try to shift blame onto the media. The people who are part of the NRA are the people that cause these shootings in America. They're the idiots that support the second amendment no matter how many people get shot from the lax gun controls it enforces.

Though the media may come into it partially, the NRA are bigger problem than the media could ever hope to be.

[Ammi]

..to me, saying that things like this are contributed to video games in any way is similar to saying that he ate a lot of bread, so it must have been the wheat that did it...I know that's not the same thing at all, as some people do contribute video games as 'desensitising' people...but I personally feel that these things are contributed to a chemical inbalance in the brain, which could be triggered by anything..or nothing..it could be the smallest, seemingly insignificant thing that triggers them...the brain is very complex...I don't think we'll ever fully understand what goes on inside people's heads or the cause of it, so when we don't understand things, there's a tendency to start 'laying blame'....