[Ammi]

[QUOTE=Patrick;5786159]I didn't even know the country bloody existed.

Also find it hilarious that to try and 'save' any sort of image they think they had in the first place, they decide to put a woman to death over this. Logic.[/QUOTE]



..yeah, we're all going to want to go there now Patrick...I'm thinking of putting it at the top of my holiday destination list....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..according to the article in the Guardian she was given the death penalty because it was deemed that she had damaged Bali's image...

..obviously punishable by death...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...on-death-drugs

Yeah just seems strange that when even the prosecution only seek a 15 month jail sentence the judge would ignore that and take it upon himself to give the death penalty

[cobdo]

Unbelievable reaction by most of you

She has been caught bang to rights,she must have known the consequences,the creep also grassed up her accomplices to get a lesser sentence (they will also get the death penalty i assume).........No Pity from me i'm afraid as i dont buy that bull that her kids were threatened for 1 minute.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by cobdo

Unbelievable reaction by most of you

She has been caught bang to rights,she must have known the consequences,the creep also grassed up her accomplices to get a lesser sentence (they will also get the death penalty i assume).........No Pity from me i'm afraid as i dont buy that bull that her kids were threatened for 1 minute.

Beautiful irony

[Stu]

An elderly woman is about to be shot in the brain against a brick wall by a country with highly dubious judicial discrepancies. It's wrong and overly harsh no matter what and it's absolutely fair and just that any sane person would question the severity of the punishment.

I don't care for this "we must respect the laws of sovereign states" B.S. Screw them. Their laws suck and we have a right to comment on that.

[bbfan1991]

OMG.

[arista]

Stu

What do you want a Rescie?

[Sticks]

The sooner this drug smuggler is executed the better

Let's hope our government do not interfere in the legitimate judicial processes of this sovereign state

Anyone who has seen what drugs do to our society will welcome this news and eagerly wait for sentence to be carried out

Good job to those judges who will make an example of this drug smuggler as a warning to others

[King Gizzard]

If you're going to be stupid enough to do it in China where it is pretty clear what their laws are then prepare to face the consequences, not that I don't think it's wrong cause I do, but they're an idiot for doing it in the first place

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The sooner this drug smuggler is executed the better

Let's hope our government do not interfere in the legitimate judicial processes of this sovereign state

Anyone who has seen what drugs do to our society will welcome this news and eagerly wait for sentence to be carried out

Good job to those judges who will make an example of this drug smuggler as a warning to others

Who are you, Rupert Bloody Murdoch?

[arista]

Sticks wants her Dead.


Thats his choice

[Stu]

I wasn't aware 'thou shalt not kill' had a footnote.

Why would anyone 'eagerly await' for the sentence to be carried out? Being complacent with it or supporting it is one thing. What on earth does 'eagerly await' mean?

Will you be getting extra fizzy pop and tuning in your radio early for the big event?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

I can't imagine there are many people who travel to Indonesia who don't know that smuggling drugs carries the death penalty there. And she was guilty of smuggling a massive amount of drugs.

People who are moaning about short sentences here for other crimes have to remember this is Indonesia, not the UK. You can't equate the two because the judicial systems are vastly different. Indonesia is very clear about its drug smuggling policey and the sentences it carries, and yet people still believe they can beat the system.

I totally go along with this comment. There have been a fair few cases now where it has been widely covered as to the severity of sentencing for smuggling drugs into certain countries carries a very severe penalty for doing so, often the death penalty.

Sadly some people still think they will be above suspicion as to this act and go ahead and try.

I feel sure however,that the sentence will be reduced but she will likely face a heavy jail sentence.
People going to such countries should ensure they steer away completely from being involved in any way as to drug smuggling.
That is really the only safe thing to do.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Sticks

The sooner this drug smuggler is executed the better

Let's hope our government do not interfere in the legitimate judicial processes of this sovereign state

Anyone who has seen what drugs do to our society will welcome this news and eagerly wait for sentence to be carried out

Good job to those judges who will make an example of this drug smuggler as a warning to others

You seriously support a system where people are executed for choosing to snort cocaine and do what they want with their lives? People should be able to snort cocaine if they wish and as long as it doesn't affect you then I don't see why anyone should give a damn, quite frankly.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Redway

You seriously support a system where people are executed for choosing to snort cocaine and do what they want with their lives? People should be able to snort cocaine if they wish and as long as it doesn't affect you then I don't see why anyone should give a damn, quite frankly.

She was smuggling a million quids worth. Not doing a few lines off a toilet bowl. At least read the story.

[Jack_]

'Eagerly await' that's actually very disturbing. Who eagerly awaits someone's execution? How barbaric.

Originally Posted by arista

Sticks wants her Dead.


Thats his choice

You have such a lovely way with words, arista.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Redway

You seriously support a system where people are executed for choosing to snort cocaine and do what they want with their lives? People should be able to snort cocaine if they wish and as long as it doesn't affect you then I don't see why anyone should give a damn, quite frankly.

Tell that to the OAP mugged and left for dead by a drug addict stealing her meagre pension so they can have a fix

Tell that to the parents who find that drug lords have been making their children in to addicts by pretending that they are sweets.

Tell that to those of us who have come across play areas or communal areas littered with dirty hypodermic needles...

As for thou shalt not kill, it was actually thou shalt not murder, not the same thing. In fact I have heard it argued that the New Testament in Romans 13 can be used to support the death penalty.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Tell that to the OAP mugged and left for dead by a drug addict stealing her meagre pension so they can have a fix

Tell that to the parents who find that drug lords have been making their children in to addicts by pretending that they are sweets.

Tell that to those of us who have come across play areas or communal areas littered with dirty hypodermic needles...

As for thou shalt not kill, it was actually thou shalt not murder, not the same thing. In fact I have heard it argued that the New Testament in Romans 13 can be used to support the death penalty.

I'm pretty sure a saying about Tomatoes (and sometimes potatoes) is appropriate here.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Tell that to the OAP mugged and left for dead by a drug addict stealing her meagre pension so they can have a fix

Tell that to the parents who find that drug lords have been making their children in to addicts by pretending that they are sweets.

Tell that to those of us who have come across play areas or communal areas littered with dirty hypodermic needles...

As for thou shalt not kill, it was actually thou shalt not murder, not the same thing. In fact I have heard it argued that the New Testament in Romans 13 can be used to support the death penalty.

Killing is wrong. End of story. It's just barbaric (as one person said) and ridiculous. What she did may have been wrong and irresponsible but nobody deserves capital punishment.

[Shaun]

How barbaric.

[Munchkins]

Sorry, this may come across harsh but what a stupid bint. Sh e knew the precautions, she knew what could happen so its her own fault, she shouldn't have done it, just idiotic. Whilst the penalty is harsh, thats the laws there, and thats that.. awful though
Doing this when she has a family too, even worse
but the death penalty is disgusting.. and its an easy way out for most extreme crimes any way (not that this is)

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Tell that to the OAP mugged and left for dead by a drug addict stealing her meagre pension so they can have a fix

Tell that to the parents who find that drug lords have been making their children in to addicts by pretending that they are sweets.

Tell that to those of us who have come across play areas or communal areas littered with dirty hypodermic needles...

Problems that are all propagated by the war on drugs. There are more efficient ways to solve the worlds problems than by shooting people in the head.

I'm not entirely sure your second example actually occurs a whole lot to even be considered a thing.

Originally Posted by Sticks

As for thou shalt not kill, it was actually thou shalt not murder, not the same thing. In fact I have heard it argued that the New Testament in Romans 13 can be used to support the death penalty.

How convenient. What a wonderful book.

Joyless? Sexless? Draconian? Try The Bible.

[Sticks]

And what of justice for those whose lives are destroyed by drugs and drug related crimes?

A line must be drawn in the sand!

[Ammi]

..I'm not sure where killing someone in cold blood brings justice though...killing someone just extinguishes a life, nothing more...there is no 'lesson' to be learned...I doubt people who smuggle drugs will think..'oh, I better not do it anymore..it's quite dangerous'...I can't see it doing a lot for the tourist industry, which they feel is so damaged...she learns no lesson because she ceases to exist and her children lose their mother.....

..her actions might require justice to be called for..but yes, a line has to be drawn....

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Patrick

I didn't even know the country bloody existed.

Also find it hilarious that to try and 'save' any sort of image they think they had in the first place, they decide to put a woman to death over this. Logic.

You've never heard of Bali?

Beautiful country.

But this lady was carrying drugs, willingly, to another country. Had they been planted my view would be different but, like Livia pointed out, the laws regarding drugs are very clear. Fair enough her children may have been in 'danger' but I don't believe for a second that she couldn't have found a way for someone to help her.